Suicide dilemma

sunni said:

sounds like Alzheimer's then yes do it. fuck shoot him yourself put them out of their misery worst condition ever.

my grandmother has been raped while in the hospital thank goodness she cannot remember it, she is down to 70 lbs, she sits in the fetal position all day mumbling in italian she cannot open her eyes, the nurses dont take the time to feed her, so she is left with food on her all the time, shes never cleaned up shes barely fed.....i wish i wish i wish i could just end her suffering

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Dude can't u find her a better place, poor grandma, how dare they treat her that way
My aunt is a well known ER nurse, they don't fuck around with them or they now she will rip them a new one, i'd go in claws out, set up a web cam in her room and let them know they are being watched by many dicks !!!

april said:

Dude can't u find her a better place, poor grandma, how dare they treat her that way
My aunt is a well known ER nurse, they don't fuck around with them or they now she will rip them a new one, i'd go in claws out, set up a web cam in her room and let them know they are being watched by many dicks !!!

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shes been to 3 different places, theyre all the same, some nurses really just dont like their job they do it for the money and notbecause they care about the patients

So because palliative care is left wanting, Euthanasia becomes a more attractive option?

PeyoteReligion said:

Sure, in this situation I would condone it. But would I support it? Never. In the situation you presented, the person doesn't really seem to be hurting anyone else in the act, then whatever. That's a disappointing descion almost every time though. Pretty much the only way I would support suicide is if a serial killing child rapist wanted to kill themselves, then I'd hand him the gun.

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Hell, I'd help him aim it.

Moebius said:

So because palliative care is left wanting, Euthanasia becomes a more attractive option?

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Hell it should be utilized frivolously.

Trolling said:

Never said that, as I stated earlier "I could care less". If it were me tho, I would hang in till the end as I have alot of will.

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PeyoteReligion said:

Easy for you to say when you're not knocking on deaths doorstep. If you started suffering horribly from a deadly illness you may think twice about that.

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This thread gives me mightily to think. It hits rather close to home for me.

The one thing I have to observe in relation to the two posts quoted is: there are diseases of the will as well. I am currently in combat with the Unauthorized option ... and worry that my will is on its way to being too badly damaged to choose wisely. My choices appear to be hopelessness ... or dishonor made plain. Imo contemplation of suicide is the classic case of only having forgiveness available but not permission. cn

I've watched people get old and die. Taint' no fun. I'm not going to have a nice retirement package waiting for me when I get old. I don't have children, my siblings are all much older and if nature takes its course they will be gone before me. I've struggled with depression all my life. I suspect the best days of my life are behind me. No doubt the world will be shit by the time my body starts to hurt from old age and I'll be on the 357 retirement plan. I've had friends take that way out. It hurt, but I have to respect their choice because it is their choice. Life is a terminal disease which seldom ends well. If you're young, well it isn't a good answer. Maybe shit will get better, you never know what will happen. But when you're old you know what will happen. And if you have cancer, aplastic anemia, hemmerhoids or something like that and the pain is never ending, well It's a valid way out.

I dunno about suicide because of hemmerhoids...but to each there own.

PeyoteReligion said:

I dunno about suicide because of hemmerhoids...but to each there own.

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I've tried for less...

I guess I forgot to mention in my rant that I am pro assisted suicide for anyone, not just grandma with cancer, or aunt with emphysema.
A psych evaluation and consulting with a mental health professional would need to be a prereq to actually go through with it.

I can't relate to someone (not physically suffering) wanting to die. But, it would seem like if you reached that point you would feel as though you have nothing to lose.
I wonder what it feels like to feel like you have nothing to lose? It sounds liberating.. I'm sure I am missing something though.

It's debilitating

HeartlandHank said:

I guess I forgot to mention in my rant that I am pro assisted suicide for anyone, not just grandma with cancer, or aunt with emphysema.
A psych evaluation and consulting with a mental health professional would need to be a prereq to actually go through with it.

I can't relate to someone (not physically suffering) wanting to die. But, it would seem like if you reached that point you would feel as though you have nothing to lose.
I wonder what it feels like to feel like you have nothing to lose? It sounds liberating.. I'm sure I am missing something though.

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The bigger problem is that when your internal engine of vitality, determination, satisfaction in a job well done is taken from you by a cruel joke of neurochemistry, the deadlier sensation is the absolute crystalline certainty that there's nothing to gain any more. cn

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My apologies to everyone. The intent of the thread was not meant to be a trigger. I was genuinely curious about people's attitudes regarding euthanasia. I meant no harm.

I did a research paper a year ago on assisted suicide. Everyone should have a living will is what it boils down to. Read one example of a 83 yr old with lung cancer. Went into heart failure while in the hospital. Was 98 pounds and emancipated. The attending doc contemplated opening his chest to manually massage his heart. Ribs were cracking as they performed cpr.
More research..... Do y'all have any idea how many people in detrimental states are given pain killers (morphin) until they die? Not that its a bad thing. But who decides where the difference is in relieving pain, and slowing the heart to a point where it stops....i.e. When the pain stops.
As fat ass the depressed suicides.... Hotlines, education on depression, and......weed.. Slightly kidding.

Couple more stories. One of a terminal cancer patient. Didn't want to die in a bed. Made a pact with herself, husband, and her doctor. She researched how to do it. Madge her wishes clear to friends and family. Told her doctor what she needed per the hem lock soc.. She said she felt pain in so and so like she was supposed to. She wad hurting of course, but needed more/ heavier dose. He gave it to her. Knew why she needed it. passed on peacefully with her husband and children in the room. The rest of the family had been given goodbyes to. Knew when she was leavening. Celebration baby.

what ever gets the road traffic down im up for.......... im always late for work

i would hire a hitman to take me out. oh wait i already have a doctor and he can take me out quickly. but a doctor thinks its unethical to kill, not heal. it would also kill his paycheck by doing it. would the doctor be committing murder or is the patient committing suicide? and what would your church say to all of this? didnt mean to bring in the church. but why would god alow me to suffer so much?

i have had a loved one in the hospital and when is was over, everyone was glad the suffering was over.

under certain circumstances, a person should be able to decide to live or die. should they be allowed to decide how they want to die? or do they get a lethal injection and then off to the crematorium or science lab?

Carne Seca said:

What about a degenerative condition the increasingly creates more and more of a burden on loved ones?

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you said there was no loved ones?

Carne Seca said:

My apologies to everyone. The intent of the thread was not meant to be a trigger. I was genuinely curious about people's attitudes regarding euthanasia. I meant no harm.

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Never a worry. The emphasis of my posts is to suggest the plausibility of something that people simply aren't wired to contemplate: that someone not visibly f'd up can still have a valid reason for combat with the Coward's Option. Jmo. cn