Tafbang Ceiling Light Grow Part 2

Wolverine97 said:

Microbe plant? I've gotta get me one of those...

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Actually he did say; "micro plant," as in very small, very tiny, miniscule .. just like his; 'weasel' has too be ... which is the driving force behind his attempts to talk like he is some growing expert, even though he is on his first grow and he has done virtually every single thing wrong from A to Z.

What makes me laugh is this guy is going around in other threads giving growing advice! In a thread where someone was saying their herb turned out less potent than where the seeds came from, so evidently it was a bagseed grow, he's saying that curing is not important and that you can give your plants a; "quick dry" and they will be just as potent as if given a long slow dry followed by a long slow cure.

He doesn't even have one single successful grow under how belt and he's out there advising people like he believes he's Jorge fucking Cervantes or someone!

This guy should go to LA and become a comedy writer. All he would need to do is put his delusions down on paper and let actors deliver the lines and people watching the TV show or movie would be pissing themselves from laughing so hard.

Sugar coated seeds?

tafbang said:

I've always heard that if there weren't stripes on the seed that it wouldn't sprout,

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Over the decades I have had seeds that were solid color, anything from a light green to a medium green to very light tan to taupe to dark brown to darn near black and I have had seeds that were a light tan with very tiny dark brown to black or almost black speckles on them to darker brown with large even darker brown to almost black spots to striped seeds that were basically anything from very light colored to very dark where the stripes hardly showed up and I have had some seeds that were very large and others that very tiny .... and in every case I had a high germination rate and vigorous plants.


You; "always heard" wrong. Seed viability is a matter of it being mature or not and depending on the genetics just about anything other than whitish and or soft can be a fully viable seed.

tafbang said:

so the plants are going to go through hell. but I'm going to try my best to keep them alive to survive that and try to harvest some new poison again.

I'm going to twisty them around each other soon enough, would be neat if they merged later in life cause of it and formed a super tree, crazy fantasy talk

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Normally you get a much better product and a much bigger yield if you just grow them like it should be done. all of your experiments have been tried and all have failed, Why not learn from others' mistakes and grow the best you can grow instead of just barely keeping them alive?

Brick Top said:

Actually he did say; "micro plant," as in very small, very tiny, miniscule .. just like his; 'weasel' has too be ... which is the driving force behind his attempts to talk like he is some growing expert, even though he is on his first grow and he has done virtually every single thing wrong from A to Z.

What makes me laugh is this guy is going around in other threads giving growing advice! In a thread where someone was saying their herb turned out less potent than where the seeds came from, so evidently it was a bagseed grow, he's saying that curing is not important and that you can give your plants a; "quick dry" and they will be just as potent as if given a long slow dry followed by a long slow cure.

He doesn't even have one single successful grow under how belt and he's out there advising people like he believes he's Jorge fucking Cervantes or someone!

This guy should go to LA and become a comedy writer. All he would need to do is put his delusions down on paper and let actors deliver the lines and people watching the TV show or movie would be pissing themselves from laughing so hard.

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Ahem....
"Well, I happened to find a seedling about 2 days old growing on the very side of the basket that was 100x bigger than the little microbe plant and the microbe plant has cotyldons spread while this seedling still has a helmet on. It's an average sized seedling, and the microbe plant is literally 100x smaller it's about the size of a pinky nail in height and the stalk is thin as a hair and leaves look like bright green crumbs."

Microbe plant...

Wolverine97 said:

Ahem....
"Well, I happened to find a seedling about 2 days old growing on the very side of the basket that was 100x bigger than the little microbe plant and the microbe plant has cotyldons spread while this seedling still has a helmet on. It's an average sized seedling, and the microbe plant is literally 100x smaller it's about the size of a pinky nail in height and the stalk is thin as a hair and leaves look like bright green crumbs."

Microbe plant...

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After looking again he said both micro and microbe:

Oh yeah, and the most **Important** thing! So that little micro plant I said was growing and I was unsure of what it was? well... I'm 80% sure it isn't cannabis... has anyone ever had random plants grow in their pots before?

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Likely he didn't know which of the two words would be correct to use so he used them both at different times so he'd be right at least once with one of the usages.

just outrageous what you think taf.. You must have weight trained yourself to be a moron like most muscle heads. I was saying how the hell can he give advice like “jacks is the best nutes“ when he’s using miracle grow and its supposably his first grow

hows this fail get so much attention?

NoDrama said:

RiU is a public forum, if you do not want your grow or anything you post to be scrutinized then don't post. He could have learned this lesson months ago when he was severely trounced in his original thread, but he came back for more. Fair game, let him have it!!

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rollitup is a privately owned forum with RULES that everyone who joined agreed to. those rules include NOT harrassing, attacking, ar basically bad mouthing fellow members. that rules means "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it". that rule allows me to start passing out infractions for insults and personal attacks.

let 'em have it he says. OK.





any insults directed to or from the OP at this point will be dealt with with warnings and infractions.

tafbang said:

plants grow in their pots before?

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yeah that happens pretty often when you use traditionally made compost that isnt pastuerized. or just dirt that was left outside at some point. grass and weed(not marijuana kind) seed get in it and shit.

I imagine this thread is going to get real lonely now.

I'm out.. Good luck taf, happy experiments.

I find it amazing that you were able to keep even one of those plants alive. The way I see it is it cost you nothing to do and you get to smoke (a little) for free. whatever works. now that you know how badly mj wants to live, imagine the payoff from even a small incremental investment. It doesn't take a fortune to produce more bud than you can smoke.

GottaHaveIt said:

I find it amazing that you were able to keep even one of those plants alive. The way I see it is it cost you nothing to do and you get to smoke (a little) for free. whatever works. now that you know how badly mj wants to live, imagine the payoff from even a small incremental investment. It doesn't take a fortune to produce more bud than you can smoke.

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That was the idea.

tafbang said:

So that little micro plant I said was growing and I was unsure of what it was? well... I'm 80% sure it isn't cannabis... has anyone ever had random plants grow in their pots before?

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yeah, i've had that happen in my container gardens before. not so much with my cannabis as i opt for better potting soil than with my veggies and flowers. generally you will find at least a few little weeds (not cannabis) in any soil mix. i would just yank it out as you don't want anything else taking nutrients/water away from your cannabis babies.

retreat to the fort

Tafbang,

Im a bit baked, but was wondering if you'd ever considered just maybe buying a couple of bendy necked desk lamps, putting a y-clip on each with 2 CFL's on one extension lead hooked up to a timer and then just have the plants down low? It'd cost you like $30 for those basics, and at least then you wouldnt have to stack them up in the middle of the room/manually control the light cycles.

If you insist on being ghetto, why not at least make it easy for yourself? If I can do something a lazy way that gets the same results as the hard way, I definately do it that way!

Harrekin said:

Tafbang,

Im a bit baked, but was wondering if you'd ever considered just maybe buying a couple of bendy necked desk lamps, putting a y-clip on each with 2 CFL's on one extension lead hooked up to a timer and then just have the plants down low? It'd cost you like $30 for those basics, and at least then you wouldnt have to stack them up in the middle of the room/manually control the light cycles.

If you insist on being ghetto, why not at least make it easy for yourself? If I can do something a lazy way that gets the same results as the hard way, I definately do it that way!

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In his first thread I made a similar suggestion and posted pictures of flexible light holders that come in different lengths and also the old basic clamp on work light reflectors and suggested that he consider them. I can only assume he did not see them as being of value or any sort of upgrade since he did not purchase and use either or both.

It's the old you can lead a horse to water thing .... but no matter how many helpful tips someone can offer, if they are not seen as being a plus, an improvement, as being beneficial, as being an upgrade, as being better, no matter how good or useful the tips may be, they will not be accepted, they will not be used.

Brick Top said:

In his first thread I made a similar suggestion and posted pictures of flexible light holders that come in different lengths and also the old basic clamp on work light reflectors and suggested that he consider them. I can only assume he did not see them as being of value or any sort of upgrade since he did not purchase and use either or both.

It's the old you can lead a horse to water thing .... but no matter how many helpful tips someone can offer, if they are not seen as being a plus, an improvement, as being beneficial, as being an upgrade, as being better, no matter how good or useful the tips may be, they will not be accepted, they will not be used.

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I just find that so strange, I didnt think anyone was ever totally happy with their setup regardless of how much money they've ploughed into it. Im constantly changing what I use, making improvements/tweaks and taking advice on what I need/should get. I especially would've thought at least the guy would say "Hmm, never thought of using small cheap desk lamps, maybe I dont need a leaning shit-tower of Pisa sitting incriminatingly in the middle of my shit-room after all"...oh well, I might just have too much faith in people.

Harrekin said:

I just find that so strange, I didnt think anyone was ever totally happy with their setup regardless of how much money they've ploughed into it. Im constantly changing what I use, making improvements/tweaks and taking advice on what I need/should get. I especially would've thought at least the guy would say "Hmm, never thought of using small cheap desk lamps, maybe I dont need a leaning shit-tower of Pisa sitting incriminatingly in the middle of my shit-room after all"...oh well, I might just have too much faith in people.

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I can understand if someone has a setup that consistently supplies them with enough herb of a high enough quality to meet their needs or likes being satisfied with what they have to work with. Still even then most of those people at times are bound to pause and consider how if they stepped up their lighting some or added CO2 or did something how there would be an improvement. They might not do it out of reasons of expense or reasons of space or possibly because they might feel that the increase they would gain would not be worth the cost, effort and time to make the change and since they are already being well supplied with quality herb, why bother?

In the case of some people though I think it is just a matter of as the title of the old Sinatra song goes, "I Did It My Way." To some that is highly important. If their results turn out terrible, they still hold some pride in knowing they did it their way. If their results turn out rather well to impressive, even though they could have easily been doubly so had they did things different, they still hold pride in having done it their way.

Everyone has different priorities and places more or less importance on certain things that others do. Heck, in one thread I fairly recently got a chuckle out of someone was happy and excited to find that they had a hermie and ended up with seeds because it gave them what they called free feminized seeds.

I doubt all that many growers would have been to tickled to find out they had a hermie and now have seedy lower potency pot, but that person made it sound like it was more exciting and better than Christmas morning and finding so many gifts for them stacked around the Christmas tree that they could hardly see the tree or get in the room it was in.

I used to have a neighbor that was a psychiatrist and he often said that reality is whatever someone perceives it too be. He would normally add that there were of course limits to that, like if someone believed they were the king of some clandestine miniature nation that existed beneath the floorboards of their bathroom that would of course be insane. But within certain bounds, reality is whatever someone perceives it to be so I guess that explains being happy over hermies and satisfied with setups that most growers would never bother to make any attempt to waste the time to use.