Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

sleezy1 said:

Yo jin! looks great! I pm'd you to talk about just that! I wanted to sit down with you and cheese. I can absorb the startup cost. But you never called...

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We should probably hang out for a smoke soon.

Look at that. Totally separated from the plant matter, but look at the microscopic leaf shards that got through the screen. Cool.

This update is for you, Cheeze. Read 'em and weep.









Look at that rich amber goodness, my darlings. Under 60 days. Whoop! Whoop!



Look up Primo Shit in the Cannabis dictionary, this is what you see. Hey, look...I'm not saying G13 Haze and all the rest of it isn't good, but you know what? Kiss my lazy Southern California ass, Arjan! Ha ha!


If you stare at it long enough, it doesn't even resemble marijuana anymore. Talk about freakish. Lots and lots of folks on this site grow great weed. But show me freakish.

I think I'm getting a little better at this. I thought the camera's macro function was helping, but it wasn't because the focal distance of the microscope's lens was confusing it. Interesting challenge to try to make the camera behave like the human eye looking through the microscope. It's a bitch.



If you're wondering why most are cloudy and few are even clear, it's because these are the undersides of the little sugar leaves. The brown honey gunk is on the other green side, but there's more crystal castle action underneath. The buds are at the perfect stage of ripeness for my personal taste. Mostly cloudy, with a good sprinkling of rich amber and dotted with a cleary every now and again. Perfect.

I recommend getting one of these to every person who bothers growing a plant. It's a great way to check on ripeness and it's just good clean nerd fun besides. Less than 15 bux at Radio Shack. Can't beat it. Almost 17 year old Nikon digital camera not included. My camera is older than most Justin Bieber fans. Nice.

Freaky is right lol

hellraizer30 said:

Freaky is right lol

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I have two kinds of weed in one plant. The lower buds when you want to mow the lawn, and the upper buds when you want to float away to dream land when you're done. I really should get to sleep, but I just woke up from a three hour power nap and will smoke another bowl instead. Good night.

OG Kush Wins.

A note to Arjan: The best marijuana in the world cannot be touched and harvested with bare hands. Thank you. And the bud must be cured for minimum four months before it's ready to smoke? Come on, is this guy for real? If you gotta cure your shit that long in big cardboard boxes before you can smoke it, then what the hell is wrong with that weed?

Strawberry Haze vs Tahoe OG Kush.

Multiple Cannabis Cup winner.

"The best Cannabis in the World."


The battle was over before it even began. You can actually see his calyxes. And look how airy that looks next to an LA OG. Weak. Do you even have to smoke the two to decide which is better? And yes, this is why OG Kush is more expensive at the shops than Strawberry Haze or Strawberry Cough or Strawberry Shortcake.

Nobody beats Satan, Arjan. Nobody.

60x magnification.

Yes, even the dry hairs are covered in tiny trichomes. Does it remind anyone else of brown sugar confection of some sort?

lordjin said:

10.4 oz. A full 5-6 ounces less than I'm used to. But why am I still grinning ear to ear?

Cheeze, I think we need to expand, brother. Me and you. Think about it. If we can produce quantities of this stuff consistently we'll be in a great position. I know I can do it... It's just a matter of a medium-sized investment for expansion cost. I'm thinking about looking into caregiver status cuz I think my skill level is finally there.

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Now I REALLY want to move to SoCal and get a weed card! I think that 10.4 oz is pretty awesome, considering the way this strain normally grows. It's not 'muscle chicken' as you say. I'd love to be one of your customers. I don't think I've had a good Sativa high since I smoked some Hawaiian when I was 20. That was a trip. (I quit smoking for 30 years shortly after this.) You should take it to a dispensary that knows good from bad and ask them what they think of this stuff and find out how much they would charge customers for it (if they're willing to tell you).

lordjin said:

Any time, man. I'm home until the 3rd. Why don't you sniff these jars and see what you think?

Look at the trichome structure on a loose calyx. These things are coated in crystal armor. Look at the crystal growing on crystal. And check out that massive Alien head made out of resin. Microscope = cool.

Camera first generation Nikon. So you all can't say my pictures are good because I use a good camera.

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I see you're getting a lot of use out of your $15 microscope. The low price doesn't mean it's cheap. I've used mine to take some good pictures too. I think I just set my camera to 'full automatic' and somehow it focused right.

hey jinmachine!
I just took a test bud off my high octane og.....
Man! looks pretty dank....Beat that 50 days and the top leaves are almost compleatly yellow....
Ill try to let the rest go a week more or two...

Wanted to stop in today ....but im getting the clones on the 2nd ... and i want you to compleatly sanitize out your room ,area ,etc..
Before the new clones commeth...
Your tahoe looks great ..... just keep burping them ...should moisten back up a bit... dont rush it....

Hey Jin, I've been following your awesome grow for the last few weeks and have been throughly excited to see such success. Congratulations. I'm getting into the scrog method as well, and just wanted to know what your drying technique was to harvest all that kief. Seems like you dried your nugs and cuttings pretty quick! Also was just curious about amounts of nutes in your basic feed schedule if it's not too personal. I feel like I am muscle chickening the crop right now -_-. Right now I use House and Garden Coco A+B but I have heard a lot of good things on the stuff your using on the grow show and at the hydro shop. I'm in LA also probably not too far from you if you would like to enjoy a bowl sometime. My crop should be done in 2 weeks so maybe around then I can bring some by and chat it up and you could give me some pointers on scrog! And maybe get an upclose look on that tahoe

P.s. Probably not as heavenly as the Tahoe but I have: Bubba Og, Plat bubba, Sour Hindu, Alien Og Later Gator!

323cheezy said:

hey jinmachine!
I just took a test bud off my high octane og.....
Man! looks pretty dank....Beat that 50 days and the top leaves are almost compleatly yellow....
Ill try to let the rest go a week more or two...

Wanted to stop in today ....but im getting the clones on the 2nd ... and i want you to compleatly sanitize out your room ,area ,etc..
Before the new clones commeth...
Your tahoe looks great ..... just keep burping them ...should moisten back up a bit... dont rush it....

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If you can make it on the 2nd, that would be best. I have to return to work on the 3rd.

You really must stop by for some pound cake and strawberry cream cheese. It's to die for. Oh, and that green stuff in the jar isn't bad either. They're officially dry as the closed lid indicates. Burping routine begins. I can't tell you how high I am off the 1pm wake and bake. As the bud dries, the high matures and gets deeper each time I smoke it. Wow. I've been sleeping a lot lately, too, as it provides a heavy narcotic effect towards the end of the day (upper nugs especially). I'm really enjoying my break thanks to you and Tahoe.

xcflash said:

Hey Jin, I've been following your awesome grow for the last few weeks and have been throughly excited to see such success. Congratulations. I'm getting into the scrog method as well, and just wanted to know what your drying technique was to harvest all that kief. Seems like you dried your nugs and cuttings pretty quick! Also was just curious about amounts of nutes in your basic feed schedule if it's not too personal. I feel like I am muscle chickening the crop right now -_-. Right now I use House and Garden Coco A+B but I have heard a lot of good things on the stuff your using on the grow show and at the hydro shop. I'm in LA also probably not too far from you if you would like to enjoy a bowl sometime. My crop should be done in 2 weeks so maybe around then I can bring some by and chat it up and you could give me some pointers on scrog! And maybe get an upclose look on that tahoe

P.s. Probably not as heavenly as the Tahoe but I have: Bubba Og, Plat bubba, Sour Hindu, Alien Og Later Gator!

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Hi there. Thanks for following along.

No special technique for harvesting kief. Just let the sugar leaf clippings dry in an open container of your choice. (line the bottom with paper towel for more efficient dry leaf gathering) When leaves have dried to a nice crispy consistency, crumble the larger leaves with scissors. Then simple drop a few fistfuls into your favorite shaker box with four sterilized quarters. Shake, shake, shake (up and down and side to side) for five minutes. You should have a thick layer of snow that completely blocks out the catch mirror's reflection. Edit: I'm still at it. See? These are some of the most amazing leaves I've ever worked with.




Nothing is too personal here. It's a public grow journal. I used AN Sensi A+B Grow and Bloom. Kushie Kush during first six weeks of bloom and lots of calmag throughout. That's it! The plants didn't want more than 500ppm at their highest feed stage in veg. They didn't want more than 850ppm at their highest feed stage in bloom.

Sounds good. I'll smoke your stuff when it dries. Lol!

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Oh, and yes, this is one of my shortest dry times on record thanks to this spell of dry air we've been having. I was pretty happy to see the sugar leave crispy after only two days. Yes! And here I was thinking they wouldn't be ready to smoke until towards end of my break.

daveroller said:

I see you're getting a lot of use out of your $15 microscope. The low price doesn't mean it's cheap. I've used mine to take some good pictures too. I think I just set my camera to 'full automatic' and somehow it focused right.

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I'm actually looking for gross, organic things I can look at under this thing. I didn't think it would be appropriate to post a picture of my dandruff or toe nails, though. Lol! Lucky for all of you!

So last time I pitted Cheeze's Bubba against my shop's OG's. An unfair comparison according to him. But here's where Jin levels out the playing field.


The Titanium OG. Not a bad OG. Solid OG smell, density, and heavy pulls on the smoke.


But this is where the game totally changes. I have no desire to smoke the last of that Titanium. Anyone want it? Lol.


Deliverance from over-priced shop OG at at last!!!!

I win again, snobby L.A. shops. I win again.

So to recap: That's Arjan and Snobby LA shops - 0, Jin - 2

daveroller said:

Now I REALLY want to move to SoCal and get a weed card! I think that 10.4 oz is pretty awesome, considering the way this strain normally grows. It's not 'muscle chicken' as you say. I'd love to be one of your customers. I don't think I've had a good Sativa high since I smoked some Hawaiian when I was 20. That was a trip. (I quit smoking for 30 years shortly after this.) You should take it to a dispensary that knows good from bad and ask them what they think of this stuff and find out how much they would charge customers for it (if they're willing to tell you).

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I know exactly how much they'll charge patients if they buy it from me. 65.00 for 3.5 to 4 grams. 75.00 for 5 grams. The thing is, they always, and I mean ALWAYS, try to low-ball you on the wholesale side of 200 per zip. That might be fine for some nooby shwag, but with stuff like this Tahoe, 200 would be like giving it away. The only way I'll consider it would be if a club offered 300 per zip as a donation. And as good as this stuff is, these LA shops are stingy, and I know they wouldn't give me that. So I keep all for Jin. Yay.

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You wouldn't believe some of these LA shop people. Even when my stuff far outshines their top menu item under the magnifying light, they still shake their heads and try to low-ball me. I'm not sure I want to even put up with that bullshit this time around. Maybe another grow when I've harvested more. I'm still learning about this type of cut I'm working with, so I'm sure I'll harvest more next time.

Sure, lots of threads give you bud smoke reports. But how many give you crystal smoke reports? This is some of the best kief I've ever had. But you knew I was gonna say that, right? It has a smooth draw with a pleasant sting on the exhale. Blows shop kief to shit. I can actually just smoke mainly the kief with a tiny bit of bud while I wait for the main nugs to cure.

And shop kief never sparkles like this.

Edit: Look closely at that kief in the bowl. You can still make out the little crystal rivet shapes. Awesome.

Edit2: Okay, this might make some of you come after me with torches and pitchforks, but I'll put a bowl plugged with a bit of my Tahoe with a generous heaping mass of kief on top against top-notch hash in potency. Wow, is Jin talking out of his ass again? Maybe, but after smoking one of my sno-cap specials, I feel amazingly high. I can't imagine any hash surpassing this feeling. I've smoked my fair share of good hash, too. So I guess Cheeze will find out what I'm talking about.

Hash is overrated imo. It's solid, so you have to break it up. And even after you do that, you get that 'fuel taste' when you smoke it. Yuk. I like to keep it natural and consume the plant in its whole, natural state, with no processing other than drying. This kief burns beautifully. It curls into this thick amber before ashing into light gray. It's almost as fun watching it burn as inhaling the vapors. It makes cornering when smoking with others very precise. You can surgically burn just a portion, leaving unburned surface for friends.

With OG Kush, there's definitely a right smell and a wrong smell.

The smell of these is perfect. It'll blow the face off even the most hardened person behind a shop counter. Why? Because I monitored the drying process CAREFULLY. As Cheeze so astutely warned, the air has been really dry lately. My close proximity to the ocean wasn't having a major impact as my overall room RH was holding steady at 30%. I noticed that this was causing the buds to dry too fast, so I turned off the suction fans in both dry areas. I was just a little worried that the fans may have caused too rapid a rate of evaporation and so may have impacted smell. Just a little...

So I let them hang with no air movement for another two days. The lower nugs in the tub showed crispy so I jarred them. Smelled incredible. But again, after leaving them sealed for a few minutes, the smell was almost 'speed-fermenting' with too much moisture still trapped in the jar. Take the lid off, let breathe, back to beautiful OG smell. So this should tell you how critical it is to seal you jars at the right moment. If you're not checking on this constantly, the OG smell could change on you, then your stuff has less shop value.

The lower nug jars go into the dark storage bin, lids off, storage bin half open. The next day, I decide to re-jar the top nugs I dumped out previously and cut down the remainder of the branches still hanging. Again, freshly jarred off the branch, these buds smelled like OG orgasm. So as a test, I tried sealing a jar and let it sit for fifteen or so minutes. Again, that trapped fuel smell started changing into something quite musky and almost rotten smelling. Open the jar, the trapped fuel fumes air out, and you have lovely OG smell again.

The jars then sat for a span of 24-36 hours in the dark tub, lids off, tub lid partially open, a gentle turning of the jars every three to five hours throughout. Allowing that last bit of stem moisture to leave like this as opposed to having them simply continue to air dry for another two days has done wonders for the bud. That 'roasty caramel' smell from earlier was just a temporary stage of drying. That's gone and all that's left is an OG fuel smell that's through the proverbial OG roof. Bingo. Lids go on, and nothing left to do but burp every now and again.

It's not simply a matter of jarring when they feel crispy. Putting your lid on the jar at just the right time, trapping just the right smell is of paramount importance. OG growers, if any of you have been disappointed by the smell of your crop after it smelled so amazing while growing, this is probably why. Watch that shit... with your nose. And seal only when the smell and dryness are just right. But it's best to let that last trace of stem moisture leave in open jars rather than letting them hang too long.

And that's how you cure your OG to smell like OG. With your nose. Constant monitoring with your nose and sealing at just the right moment of dryness. It's a tricky art that I'm still learning to master fully. I think I did a pretty great job with these, and it was also a valuable learning experience.

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I would imagine the same would hold true with any strain, but since OG Kush is so strongly associated with a certain smell and taste, it's especially important to time the dry / jar process just right. I think Cheezeman agrees?

Must feel better than Xmas morning as a child have'n all that dank OG at ur finger tips ! My flip has begun ...

Question: I'm adding 10ml of CalMag to 10gal H2O .. one plant is showing Mg diff or lock .. could this be ? Since the AN nutes are supposed to be well balanced .. did I add too much Mg ??