Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

Wow, man. I see now that all that time I was smoking shop OG's, I was just smoking weed.

This... this is an experience. I love how it gets more potent with each day. I need it at the rate I've been going. Wow, just wow, Cheeze. You will be amazed.

Ok .. here's the problem .. started on Older leaves. What to do ??

Hey jinnuggets...
Ive been chopping down nuggs all day ... its only been about 8 weeks...but i thought what the helll....

You are right hand selected from me ..is the way ....you know thyere always on the house for you....
Sometimes shit goes wrong with cuts ... but i always tried to get you what i liked....
And made sure it was dank before i passed it on... maybe u can get something even better this time....

ps... love how the chicken muscle term is really taking off .... seems theres about 10 peeps i heard say it..
Reallly ttoook off...lol

Edit : that tahoe cuts been around forever....

Robert4budz said:

Ok .. here's the problem .. started on Older leaves. What to do ??

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Current vital stats please. PPM, temp, ph.

323cheezy said:

Hey jinnuggets...
Ive been chopping down nuggs all day ... its only been about 8 weeks...but i thought what the helll....

You are right hand selected from me ..is the way ....you know thyere always on the house for you....
Sometimes shit goes wrong with cuts ... but i always tried to get you what i liked....
And made sure it was dank before i passed it on... maybe u can get something even better this time....

ps... love how the chicken muscle term is really taking off .... seems theres about 10 peeps i heard say it..
Reallly ttoook off...lol

Edit : that tahoe cuts been around forever....

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You comin' over on Monday? These are ready to be smoked. I'm gonna clean my system this weekend, too.

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I love the phrase. Muscle Chicken, Chicken Muscle, Muscle of the Chicken. It's funny shit.

lordjin said:

Current vital stats please. PPM, temp, ph.

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PPM ='s 685, Temp 77 - 81, RH 45-53%, PH 6.3

Robert4budz said:

PPM ='s 685, Temp 77 - 81, RH 45-53%, PH 6.3

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Can you give me a shot of plant pulled back? Also, what stage of growth? Sorry for all the questions. And water temp below 75f, yes?

I'm really too high to think about venturing a diagnosis right now, but something tells me it's good old fashioned nutrient burn. If not, maybe someone else might chime in?

Anyway, I found these images that might be helpful... but do you think your leaves fit any of these?

Hey i have those weird leaves with only 3 tips also.... not the red coloring in the middle, but still are those leaves deformed?? alot of my newer leaves are coming up with 3 or 4 tips instead of the usual 5 or 7. it just started happening like 4-5 wks into flower

mufastaa said:

Hey i have those weird leaves with only 3 tips also.... not the red coloring in the middle, but still are those leaves deformed?? alot of my newer leaves are coming up with 3 or 4 tips instead of the usual 5 or 7. it just started happening like 4-5 wks into flower

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Three bladed leaves are associated with clones reverting to veg. Did you have any problem with light schedule or leaks?

I dont think so... i never open my tent at night or even turn on the light in my room at those times. I hope my roommate didnt fuck shit up he likes to check them when im gone (despite me telling him he doesn't need to) and he sleeps like a vampire + hes kinda oblivious. But there definately havent been any major ones.

mufastaa said:

I dont think so... i never open my tent at night or even turn on the light in my room at those times. I hope my roommate didnt fuck shit up he likes to check them when im gone (despite me telling him he doesn't need to) and he sleeps like a vampire + hes kinda oblivious. But there definately havent been any major ones.

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I don't think it's anything to worry about then.

lordjin said:

Uh... I'm almost afraid to ask... what?

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Well I hope I'm not getting too personal, but here's why a guy like me is attracted to her. Young girls are hot in the sack, but you run out of things to talk about quick. Then it just becomes physical. Very limited. Hot, but limited.

I'm an old guy, and she's an older chick with an 11 year old kid, so we wouldn't look weird walking around together...Lol. She's been around the block, like me, so I feel a connection that way. I also don't find the prospect of being a surrogate 'dad' distasteful because she's already done the hard work of raising a screaming infant and toddler. All I have to do is talk to this young person. Plus, I'm not the teenager type who needs to check on or be checked on by a girlfriend five times a day. So if she needs time away to spend with her kid, that'll just make me want her more since she's not in my fucking face all the time. Yeah, I'm thinking about all this shit, but so is she. She also has a great butt, which is very important to me... she's half white, half Asian. Thank God for the white half. Lol.

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Hey Jin, I can totally relate to your thoughts about this gal. My wife is older like me and we both let a lot of shit go without arguing about it, so we don't ever yell at each other. And I am so glad that she works all day, just so that we aren't in each other's faces all the time. And when we got married 7 years ago, she brought along a 15-year-old daughter. Kids can be really moody at that age if they've been spoiled, but luckily my stepdaughter never got in trouble or argued with me or her mother. Since I didn't know how to deal with children, I was never that attentive to her, which was my biggest mistake. So I didn't realize that her first year here with me was really hard for her. If you do hook up with this gal you mentioned, ask her daughter questions in conversation so that you get to know what she's interested in, what she likes, how's school going, etc. And throw in some stories about funny things that you saw or did when you were her age. That always made my stepdaughter laugh and broke the ice with her. I never pretended to be a real 'dad' to my stepdaughter, but instead always treated her like a friend. It depends on how comfortable you are with children. I never had a clue how to be a dad, probably because I never knew my own dad while growing up. But if you have more of a clue than I did, then maybe you can have a closer relationship.

Anyway, just some advice from someone who's been there, done that. I hope things work out for you!

lordjin said:

If the AN says calmag isn't needed as Dave mentioned, I don't pay attention to it and add it anyway. I think it may be assuming that you're not using RO when it says that? You're using RO, right? If so, I would say up it to 3ml of calmag per gallon. So add 20ml more. But let me see a picture of this plant also.

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I agree with you, Jin. But just so you know that I wasn't blowing smoke at you, here's the web page on AN's site where they say that you don't need to add CalMag to their base nutes:

http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/sensi_cal_grow_bloom/sensi_cal_grow_bloom_faq_nutrient_facts.php

The second question of their FAQ there gives their answer. But of course you have to take everything on their web site with a grain of salt. And I saw how nicely your plants grew. Seeing is believing.

daveroller said:

Hey Jin, I can totally relate to your thoughts about this gal. My wife is older like me and we both let a lot of shit go without arguing about it, so we don't ever yell at each other. And I am so glad that she works all day, just so that we aren't in each other's faces all the time. And when we got married 7 years ago, she brought along a 15-year-old daughter. Kids can be really moody at that age if they've been spoiled, but luckily my stepdaughter never got in trouble or argued with me or her mother. Since I didn't know how to deal with children, I was never that attentive to her, which was my biggest mistake. So I didn't realize that her first year here with me was really hard for her. If you do hook up with this gal you mentioned, ask her daughter questions in conversation so that you get to know what she's interested in, what she likes, how's school going, etc. And throw in some stories about funny things that you saw or did when you were her age. That always made my stepdaughter laugh and broke the ice with her. I never pretended to be a real 'dad' to my stepdaughter, but instead always treated her like a friend. It depends on how comfortable you are with children. I never had a clue how to be a dad, probably because I never knew my own dad while growing up. But if you have more of a clue than I did, then maybe you can have a closer relationship.

Anyway, just some advice from someone who's been there, done that. I hope things work out for you!

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Hey, thanks for that. That was really nice.

I'm really good around kids believe it or not. I think it's because I'm a big kid myself (never actually grew up). They tend to gravitate towards me and I find it quite natural and easy to make them tremble with laughter. Kids are an easy crowd. I actually would welcome meeting her daughter to test my 'clown' skills on her. Throw out a few verses of the "Banana-fana" song, you have 'em eating out of the palm of your hand. I've never dated a mom before, so this would be a first for me. Could be interesting.

And yeah, hell no. The furthest thing from my mind would be to try to act like a dad. They feel way more comfortable if you take on the friend role. This way, they tell you things they wouldn't even tell their mom. Hee hee. I already have direct experience with my sister's kids as the 'fun uncle.' Hours upon hours of babysitting under my belt. So I'm already quite experienced with children just that age.

lordjin said:

Hey, thanks for that. That was really nice.

I'm really good around kids believe it or not. I think it's because I'm a big kid myself (never actually grew up). They tend to gravitate towards me and I find it quite natural and easy to make them tremble with laughter. Kids are an easy crowd. I actually would welcome meeting her daughter to test my 'clown' skills on her. Throw out a few verses of the "Banana-fana" song, you have 'em eating out of the palm of your hand. I've never dated a mom before, so this would be a first for me. Could be interesting.

And yeah, hell no. The furthest thing from my mind would be to try to act like a dad. They feel way more comfortable if you take on the friend role. This way, they tell you things they wouldn't even tell their mom. Hee hee. I already have direct experience with my sister's kids as the 'fun uncle.' Hours upon hours of babysitting under my belt. So I'm already quite experienced with children just that age.

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Sounds like you don't have anything to worry about then, uncle Jin! Should be a no-brainer for you.

daveroller said:

I agree with you, Jin. But just so you know that I wasn't blowing smoke at you, here's the web page on AN's site where they say that you don't need to add CalMag to their base nutes:

http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/sensi_cal_grow_bloom/sensi_cal_grow_bloom_faq_nutrient_facts.php

The second question of their FAQ there gives their answer. But of course you have to take everything on their web site with a grain of salt. And I saw how nicely your plants grew. Seeing is believing.

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Well I think this is the perfect opportunity to respond with my praise for Advanced Nutrients. I would also like to present my praise in relation to the framework of the age old flush/no flush argument.

White ash. This is something I actually remember saying to a shop manager sometime in the past. "You have to flush thoroughly to get that clean burning white ash." So wrong. I didn't flush one bit, and this crop is the best tasting marijuana I've ever grown and smoked. What? He's gonna say that now? I'm not just casually throwing out superlatives on a whim I assure you. This OG exhales with the stiff, heavy OG burn, but the smoke is more like a sweet anesthetic vapor than marijuana smoke. In short, taste is through the roof. Perfect lemon-fuel sting.

But how is this? My plants must be loaded with 'chemicals.' How can it taste good? How can it burn clean? Answer? The plant doesn't 'store chemicals.' The plant is the plant. Chemicals are broken down by the plant on a microscopic level at root absorption. Again, there are no 'chemicals' that need to be flushed out of the plant. When you're flushing, you're just washing your roots and starving the plants upstairs. No 'flushing of chemicals' is occuring. Running plain water flushes is ONLY for buildup prevention between water changes. You got a problem with that, flushers? I'm right here! I was born for this fight!

So if it's not the flush, what makes my bud taste good and burn perfectly? I credit this to nothing other than the robust grow environment and the NPK balance of the AN Sensi line...again NOT flushing. I mean, that's proof enough for me right there to end the argument once and for all, but I know it won't even put a tiny dent in the argument... probably won't even scratch the paint.

daveroller said:

Sounds like you don't have anything to worry about then, uncle Jin! Should be a no-brainer for you.

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Yeah, I don't refer to myself as "Uncle Jin" in many of my posts for nothing. I'm actually an uncle... but never one of a monkey...most of the time.

The most viewed journal started in 2011. Thanks to you all for reading! You little pervs, you.

Hey Jin I seriously love your tahoe og! It looks super delicious, and to have 10 oz's...I'm so jealous!!

I had a question about the genetics, because you mentioned PO and I'm also in socal and got some cuts from PO about 6 weeks ago. Were your tahoe cuts from PO, cause I thought you said cheeze gave you the cuts (or I guess did cheeze get them from PO?). I'm just curious because I'm growing some tahoe cuts from PO and I'm wondering if they are the same genetics as the ones you grew. Although my setup isn't nearly as dialed in as yours (I'm kind of a newbie), it would be nice to know what I might expect for my tahoe cuts-

Thanks and grow on! Can't wait to see the next round!

lordjin said:

Three bladed leaves are associated with clones reverting to veg. Did you have any problem with light schedule or leaks?

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If its not either of these, it could potentially be a molybdenum deficiency that causes the retarted leaf growth.

Great grow Jin!