Tahoe's doing it - stepping up to the plate....we're ready.....

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econofarmer

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hey hey tahoe, those are some serious stalks!!! they look like tree trunks!!!
Fantastik work man!!! Cant wait to see some bud! It'd be better to be smokin that bud... but watchin it grow is pretty fun too:)
 

bongspit

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is it called top 44 because it takes 44 days of flower? Does it look like it will be ready faster than the big bud?
 

tahoe58

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hey YGF...CREAM.....hmmmm...there's so good old memories....

well, someone should have bet me....I would have lost on one account! one of my supposed fems.....and grown balls.....I was somewhat suspect....didn't seem like the others....so I was wrong. but the other two BigBuds are definately girls. So we have the Top44 with the 40DD.....and the two BigBuds, each with perfectly symmetrical 36Cs....all's good.

And the Top44 clones are also doing very well. I understand that they should prolly remain in the clone chamber for ~1 week? or until roots showing - then into the soil? - and them under 24/0 - oh yeah...I have re-programed the bloombox and she's set for 24/0 vege and 14/10 flower now.
 

SoloGro57

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We've come to the bonus round where scores can really change!

In the King Crimson video (link posted above), who is singing, and what groundbreaking Trio did he go on to become a part of?
 

tahoe58

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hmmm....fripp....no he didn't sing did he...giles and giles and fripp? really don't know....sorry....lost on that one too?
 

tahoe58

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hey man....yes...that's the idea....44 days to finish. in that schedule I am a little under a month away. Having not done this before I do not have a benchmark to reference. From what I have seen in pics, I am guessing that I have more than a month? for the Top44.

The BigBud started out slower, but they're really picking up the pace now. It'll be very interesting in the next couple of weeks. I veged the BigBug a little longer because of the separation anxiety that I entered into the equation .

If nothing more ever were to come of this...I've enjoyed it all more than I could have guessed. :blsmoke:
is it called top 44 because it takes 44 days of flower? Does it look like it will be ready faster than the big bud?
 

SoloGro57

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The answer we were looking for was Greg Lake.... and the name of the Trio was Emerson Lake and Palmer!

But noone goes home a loser on the Tahoe Grow Show...

Jay! What do we have for our contestant?!


It's a Link!

YouTube - Greg Lake - I Believe in Father Christmas

Yes, it's a link to a YouTube video of Greg Lake singing
I Belive in Father Christmas

Happy Holidays!
 

bongspit

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hey YGF...CREAM.....hmmmm...there's so good old memories....

well, someone should have bet me....I would have lost on one account! one of my supposed fems.....and grown balls.....I was somewhat suspect....didn't seem like the others....so I was wrong. but the other two BigBuds are definately girls. So we have the Top44 with the 40DD.....and the two BigBuds, each with perfectly symmetrical 36Cs....all's good.

And the Top44 clones are also doing very well. I understand that they should prolly remain in the clone chamber for ~1 week? or until roots showing - then into the soil? - and them under 24/0 - oh yeah...I have re-programed the bloombox and she's set for 24/0 vege and 14/10 flower now.
what is your thinking on the 14/10 instead of 12/12?:mrgreen:
 

tahoe58

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well...this is a culmination of a variety of discussions I have had offline. I had started with the 12/12 as is common place and well accepted and documented. I then had a suggestion of going to an 18 hour day (12/6) but was told and read that there is a minimum sleep time for the plant to do its business. I even thought about a 36 hr day (24/12). all of these variations aqre intent on either encouraging more growth during the light period or shortening the perceived downtime during the dark period. In one conversation, the 14/10 came up...so that's what I went with. I have no real sense of what, when, how, if, where better? but I'm gonna give it a shot.
 

bongspit

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well...this is a culmination of a variety of discussions I have had offline. I had started with the 12/12 as is common place and well accepted and documented. I then had a suggestion of going to an 18 hour day (12/6) but was told and read that there is a minimum sleep time for the plant to do its business. I even thought about a 36 hr day (24/12). all of these variations aqre intent on either encouraging more growth during the light period or shortening the perceived downtime during the dark period. In one conversation, the 14/10 came up...so that's what I went with. I have no real sense of what, when, how, if, where better? but I'm gonna give it a shot.
I read a thread here somewhere a while back, it might have skunk talking about benefits of 12.5/11.5, I could not find it though. I have had mine 12.5/11.5 for a week...can't tell any difference yet. your right this is fun...lol:mrgreen:
 

tahoe58

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awesome...thnks for that....I used to listen to ELP in 1971-72.....wow....memories....
The answer we were looking for was Greg Lake.... and the name of the Trio was Emerson Lake and Palmer!

But noone goes home a loser on the Tahoe Grow Show...

Jay! What do we have for our contestant?!


It's a Link!

YouTube - Greg Lake - I Believe in Father Christmas

Yes, it's a link to a YouTube video of Greg Lake singing
I Belive in Father Christmas

Happy Holidays!
 

tahoe58

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hey man..yea Skunk was one of the contributors to my discussion and decision making. once the plant has been engaged into flowering (Top44 is now 2 weeks in) I am reasonably confident that it will not revert...but I suppose that is a risk....fun....yup...totally fun.....I am really looking forward to getting more involved in the breeding....
I read a thread here somewhere a while back, it might have skunk talking about benefits of 12.5/11.5, I could not find it though. I have had mine 12.5/11.5 for a week...can't tell any difference yet. your right this is fun...lol:mrgreen:
 

SoloGro57

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"After many years of first-hand experience breeding herb indoors as well as outdoors, I am of the opinion that the two most influential factors involving phenotypic variation and expression among current indoor herb breeding projects are the photoperiod (hours of light per day) and the angle of light in relationship to the growing plant.

Specifically, I find the single most powerful influence to the Indica dominant phenotype is the traditional 18/6 veggie cycle and 12/12 flowering cycle. The 18/6 veggie and 12/12 flower cycle is an attempt, however poor, to mimic the Indica-producing photoperiod. It is my belief that this light cycle strongly influences for Indica phenotypic expression.

Sativa phenotype characteristics will manifest under a more equatorial photoperiod, closer to a 13/11 veggie cycle and an 11/13 flower cycle. This is the light timing range to use to elicit more Sativa dominant expression from your plants.

As for the exact photoperiod formula that I incorporate into my growing/breeding regime, this will presently remain a trade secret. My advice is to experiment with different photoperiods, keep good notes and pay attention. Avoid the 18/6 and 12/12 photoperiods, while tweaking the times a bit differently with each breeding cycle until more desirable results in the finished product and their offspring are noted. Here's a hint: work in half-hour increments or a little less, and good luck" - Dj Short

Link to entire article:
Breeding tips
 
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