sweet glad to hear that. I may just go ahead and order that one till i get back around to the first of the year
you bet it is especially since i KNOW what it is
Yeah..I know what he has got........
knowing how the light levels move round the patio is good..
so would I be teflondummy..she is a Stunner....they are little Pets aren't they...?
JM..when ou try it..get me the PH level on the measures I gave you...
You already know it is i want it so bad i can taste it.....kinda loland it has to be killing him.....
Nice thats always a plus when you buy something blind on line.Bang.....does what it says on the box....
See just what i love most about this thread live experiments as well as live results
well as soon as its legalized we'll put up the first live interconnected webcast of all the research parties grow setups to one slecteable feed...
will mark it to a C- hair m8
I should have taken a picture when I transplanted yesterday. The whole coffee can was nothing but roots. It looked allot like Mossy's except her roots were not quite as compacted on the bottom as Mossy's. Could the vinegar be the common denominator here? So far it is unanimous... vinegar is definitely the thing to use to buffer alkaline water.Im gonna second that one BH
I dont know how in the Hell i missed that this morning sorry Mossy
That is some serious root development there sir, i swear there is more to the vinegar than we all think
and after seeing this there is no doubt i am gonna make the switch. If my water is close to pH correct than it shouldn't take much vinegar to balance out my water. This is fantastic my friend completely incredible
Nice you have the same in your well that i get out of my Tap. I get 7.1 out of the tap like clock work. So this info is fantastic for me. It usually take about the same for the chemical i use to get it down to 6.0. Im gonna have to give this a run soon. Im about to refill all my jugs tonight as i have emptied them all in prep for the vinegar testing. Ive got a few germs in the ground that will be getting nothing but the vinegar treatment as well as tea's only. That way it is 100% organic. Nice clean slate to test on and i will not be amending my soil as normal for the test run.
then the teas from sex to harvest.
Right On! Maybe use your old buffering solution on one of the germs so you can get a definite side by side analysis?Nice you have the same in your well that i get out of my Tap. I get 7.1 out of the tap like clock work. So this info is fantastic for me. It usually take about the same for the chemical i use to get it down to 6.0. Im gonna have to give this a run soon. Im about to refill all my jugs tonight as i have emptied them all in prep for the vinegar testing. Ive got a few germs in the ground that will be getting nothing but the vinegar treatment as well as tea's only. That way it is 100% organic. Nice clean slate to test on and i will not be amending my soil as normal for the test run.
I want to test these JEMS in a clean compo environment. No blood and bone meal and all that good shit in the soil, just the cow poo
lmao you guys!you must spread some reputation around before giving it to fullduplex again.
Well thanks for the attempt anyway JM i appreciate it. Its been taken mentallyYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FullDuplex again.
Thats a good idea HBS i think ill have to do that and see the differences then we will be able to see if its just pH or if there is more with that vinegar than we think.
Potassium, Phos?? Mag.. Cal.. These are all essential flower nutes..Actually, there are quite a few reasons they might use vinegar.
One would be that their water supply may be quite hard. It seems plants have a very hard time of absorbing nutrients in extremely hard water. (Mine is off the scale above 8.5 for ph)
Second, vinegars like old fashioned apple cider vinegar (the kind that is cloudy looking because they don't filter out all the residues and pulp etc) contains a great deal of minerals and other items that are very good for plants. HOWEVER, you do need to significantly water down the vinegar, because vinegar used straight or in too high of a concentration will kill plants very quickly.
For evidence, I found the following quote on another web site:
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The following USDA website indicates that cider vinegar contains some essential mineral nutrients, including significant amounts of potassium (730 mg/liter), phosphorus (80 mg/liter), calcium (70 mg/liter) and magnesium (50 mg/liter). Compare these numbers to those for a Hoagland Solution at the bottom. Note that the USDA tables use units of mg per 100 grams. Multiply by 10 to get standard units of mg/liter.
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
I can't find my other quote right now, but I remember reading that the old fashioned type of apple cider vinegar will also encourage and feed beneficial bacteria and other soil organisms - which in turn will better feed your plant.
I'm just experimenting this year with using natural materials - non-animal based - as fertilizers. It is quite amazing what you can find out with a little persistent digging online. I am going non-animal because I have a horrible time keeping the critters from digging up all my plants when I use animal based material. I'm glad that happened, or I'd never have discovered the wonders of alfalfa, molasses and even dandelion greens and flowers for steeping a "tea" to feed my plants. It's only been a month or so, but my plants have reacted more positively to this gentle fertilizer than anything I've ever fed them before. But I digress - you asked about vinegar. My point is, if the gentleman is using vinegar and you see he has wonderful plants keep investigating and give it a try yourself. Nay sayers will always be there to tell you "don't bother!" - but until you try it - you just don't know what you're missing.
Dam that is a lot of plant coming out of that little pot
Fox Farms does wonders my man.
I would have to say that it does do wonders. I am going to switch to fox farms when my earth juice runs out. I am also going to do a little side by side comparison with the FFOF soil and MG organic choice to see if it deserves the hype it gets.
I have seen someone do a side by side somewhere on here and from the last I read the MG was actually out performing the FF.