The Art of The Auto

Bighill said:
This is where is need to interject. The point of this thread is to turn people on to the autos, not tell them to grow some 12/12 strain. Plenty of 12/12 stuff takes 80 days veg before you can get ANY kind of yeild from flower. I've grown plenty of kush that took well over 8 weeks to veg, then another 10 to bud.
Here's how i see it by the time they are flipping their kushes to flower i am near taking down some autos.

I've grown some snowryder that went 10 weeks, other done in 65 days.. The point is the "one size fits all" way of looking at it is very closed minded and your plants WILL suffer.

I've had mossy jem phenos that needed tripple the cal/mag that any normal auto needed. The plant and it's genetics will determin what to feed and when.. How does a LR#1/#2 feeding chart fit in with a ladvia, a mostly sati auto hybrid? I would rather teach people to read their plants, so they have success with any pheno.


Jon what other autos are you running?

What is your soil mix? Do you buy a bag and just put it in? Or are you mixing amendments at set ratios? My only introduction to you is down talking to people, so i am curious where this chip came from.
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Thanks big hill. Its to the point now where he thinks hes running the thread, i dont mind the advice but like you said this is about autos as well as the good vibe we had here.
 
guitarjon


Autos as well as NON-autos all very in what they need. I dont care if you got all the seeds out of the same pack there is a chance that they will all require different levels of nutes at different times. Its like children, yeah they all eat, shit, and sleep, but they all have special requirements they need in there raising cause no two of them are alike. Now when raising clones its a little different you already know the mother as well as the offspring so to speak but again this is about autos not clones.

I have to agree with BigHill here, id much rather watch and listen to my plants, than force feed them something they don't need. This leads to possible salt buildups that lead to lock outs then lead to deficiencies. I make all my compo, nothing i use is bought when it comes to my soil. In the past i have been able to run my plants in it with out using any type of additive other than water from start to finish. Have ran 3-4 different strains in it with out hitch, or a single plant dieing.

Its about listening to what they need and giving it to them, so that when they need it they have it. I understand people want to push the limit of there plant and get the biggest yield, but its not like that for all of us dude, i like to see good plant health, and vigorous roots and tight formations. Your autos are some of the biggest plants ive seen, ill give you that, well other than a dude named "cheeshead." Im about what makes them tick, what can I get medically from them. Im about trying to get the highest THC content and most vibrant color. Im into the science of it all, so i can find something that is gonna take care of my needs.

These are the intentions of this thread, if people want to use my methods they can, im not saying i lead in the best advice, or in pot size cause i know thats why plants are smaller than most. But what i do keeps a plant alive from start to finish, and i yield a good deal for the small space. If i had more room than i do i would run larger pots, so i had to figure out a way to grow at least a 70g wet plant in a pot that it wasnt ment to get that in. I have repeatedly, like clock work, and some of the advice i have posted up has helped others.

Now lets burn one and get this show on the road.
 
jem phenos that needed tripple the cal/mag that any normal auto needed
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Ooohhhwwww..that leads to an interesting thought given what we were talking about..
as I have acclimatised my girls to my natural outdoor weather conditions...
could it also have acclimatised them to Wanting higher calcium because it is what they are used to in the water over here....
mmmm..that has me mulling....:leaf:

Exciting! cant wait to see what your gonna roll with.
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Remember the DC dominants that I was doing last..
the ones that Looked like mini DC...lookee-likeys....?

20 gone in today...
(Lucky Halloween..Canna Harvest Festival tonight..Bud Blessing..
in the glass-house watching the sun go down on the Special night...
You are all invited....
bring a Bud....
Spark a Fattie tonight..and give blessing to the great Ganja Godess.)

I rolled one of the nice fat top bud for seed..then ground the remains.

Grind smell..
dank cellar..touch of mid sweat..
then amonia..Tom Cats P*ss..and fruit.
Deep on the depth.

Unlit inhale..thick...scented fruit.
Lit exhale...BANG..right in the inside of the bridge of me nose again...pow...
(bloody Afghans...:-P..I think it May be amonia...)
After the initial shock she mellows to a good thick scented smoke.

Effect was cool too..deeply relaxing feel good..
But..
the couch lock was fast and all encompassing...
(I was supposed to be doing chores and although I could hear the dreaded foot-steps coming up the stairs....I couldn't get me bum off the seat and grab the nearest brush to even LOOK as if I was working....:-P....:-P.....:-P....)

Got a nice relaxed body stone..
lots of tingling in the top of the spine..
(so it Could be my deep muscle relaxant showing up..fingers Crossed..)
tingling in the toes too..so I would say it was a circulation dilator..
(First selection for the heart rate monitor....?)
Although my heart rate feels slow and relaxed..go figure.

Anyway..I am happy as a sand-piper still..:bigjoint:

I'm starting to get a funny hunch about paranoid bud...
or am I just paranoid..:-P
and I wondering..
when did you take your Bud-wider off....early..or late...?

See what you think of ALF#3..
gotta say this is a Very prolific/tested cross and no-one has picked paranoia up in her..
which leads me to think that it is the DC in the cross that may have triggered a match/magnification...
so it will be good to hear what you think.
 
Endorium..
those girls are little Beauts m8..I would be well proud of them..8-)

If they keep growing like that..they will be stunners.
kudos to the Breeder..and You for growing them...

A Good Grower makes the Breeder look Good...:weed:

IMO...only...
I wouldn't trim at that stage...
the Leaves are the Lungs of your plant...they need their lungs..

IF they get to the point when they are blocking light from your Buds..
I would reconsider.
 
Thanks Mossys.

I am really happy with them. I am still shocked at how fast they are growing. I check them 3 times a day and notice they have grown everytime. Below the plants is thick with roots already. This Breed seems to really love NFT growing.
Got 8 more seeds of this breed for after these :) Cant wait to see what the smoke is like. Doing this for medical reasons so really hoping for good smoke !
 
I check them 3 times a day and notice they have grown everytime
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Ha ha..you are as bad as me...they are Addictive to Grow.

This Breed seems to really love NFT growing.
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The Bigger the root space they have..the better they grow.
so they Love Tanks.

Doing this for medical reasons so really hoping for good smoke !
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I THINK so...I've only heard Good reports on her.
Looking forward to your smoke report.
I Collect AF med reports. :leaf:

ONE personal recommendation for Nerve Pain sufferers...
Get an Afghan....ANY Afghan...
take it down EARLY....5% amber Only....
for pain relief...WITH energy.....:leaf:
 
ONE personal recommendation for Nerve Pain sufferers...
Get an Afghan....ANY Afghan...
take it down EARLY....5% amber Only....
for pain relief...WITH energy.....:leaf:
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I can second this, i have oral pain from time to time
due to calcium deficiencies, i get plenty of tooth aches
and since my ALF has been dry, my face has been pain free.

Also the couh lock is amazing
Same effect i get from the hydrocodone they give me :)
 
I checked today and it seemed a good time to take the male out and let time take its course. Looks like the breeding took well as i see seed pods from top to bottom and this is what i wanted.

This will allow me a large seed stock to search through to find a good colored male as well as female. Itll will be interesting to see what the F2's will look like. As i stated before this male was slightly colored so i am hoping to see some color in the F2's.

Ill have pics soon as the camera battery recharges. :leaf:
 
Agh m8..you never told me oral pain.
What kind..tooth-ache..or nerve pain...?

And..this may sound daft..
But..
did you have Bone pain as a kid...the kind they always say is growing pains...?

You may be looking for Exactly the same meds as me...
Not Yin and Yan...more like dopple-gangers....:fire:

Now ain't That a disturbing thought....

Enjoy your trip......:wink:
 
FullDuplex said:
guitarjon


Autos as well as NON-autos all very in what they need. I dont care if you got all the seeds out of the same pack there is a chance that they will all require different levels of nutes at different times. Its like children, yeah they all eat, shit, and sleep, but they all have special requirements they need in there raising cause no two of them are alike. Now when raising clones its a little different you already know the mother as well as the offspring so to speak but again this is about autos not clones.

I have to agree with BigHill here, id much rather watch and listen to my plants, than force feed them something they don't need. This leads to possible salt buildups that lead to lock outs then lead to deficiencies. I make all my compo, nothing i use is bought when it comes to my soil. In the past i have been able to run my plants in it with out using any type of additive other than water from start to finish. Have ran 3-4 different strains in it with out hitch, or a single plant dieing.

Its about listening to what they need and giving it to them, so that when they need it they have it. I understand people want to push the limit of there plant and get the biggest yield, but its not like that for all of us dude, i like to see good plant health, and vigorous roots and tight formations. Your autos are some of the biggest plants ive seen, ill give you that, well other than a dude named "cheeshead." Im about what makes them tick, what can I get medically from them. Im about trying to get the highest THC content and most vibrant color. Im into the science of it all, so i can find something that is gonna take care of my needs.

These are the intentions of this thread, if people want to use my methods they can, im not saying i lead in the best advice, or in pot size cause i know thats why plants are smaller than most. But what i do keeps a plant alive from start to finish, and i yield a good deal for the small space. If i had more room than i do i would run larger pots, so i had to figure out a way to grow at least a 70g wet plant in a pot that it wasnt ment to get that in. I have repeatedly, like clock work, and some of the advice i have posted up has helped others.

Now lets burn one and get this show on the road.
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I didn't get all my seeds "from the same pack." I breed them myself. And I never said I fed every single plant the same amount of nutes. Of course I look at my plants and see which ones need what. Why made you guys believe I didn't do this??? :-? Do my girls look like they were tended by noobs? Keep assuming things before asking.

Nice little speech lol. And to Bighill, you want my advice, throw your plants out and start over. Try soil this time.
 
guitarjon said:
I didn't get all my seeds "from the same pack." I breed them myself. And I never said I fed every single plant the same amount of nutes. Of course I look at my plants and see which ones need what. Why made you guys believe I didn't do this??? :-? Do my girls look like they were tended by noobs? Keep assuming things before asking.

Nice little speech lol. And to Bighill, you want my advice, throw your plants out and start over. Try soil this time.
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See thats the thing none of us are asuming anything here its you who continues with short smart answers, thats not what we are here to promote. No one called you a noob here man, just talking in general, your so sensitive. The reason we dont believe is because the way that you talk. Its not all about one way to do this.

PS it wasnt a speach its the truth and if you would have paid close attention youd see BH grows in soil, as well as outdoor.
 
FullDuplex said:
Hey there SICC, glad to see you in here.

Got anything good under that 400w?
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Yeah I got 5 clones flowering, strawberry cough x northern lights and jack herer x shoreline x herijuana. You should checc It out. Lokkin forward to your cross bongsmilie
 
here are my auto blueberry day 41 any idea when they will start to flower they are under a 600 hps
 

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here are my auto blueberry day 41 any idea when they will start to flower they are under a 600 hps
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I Think I am the bearer of bad news here..
But IF they are @ day 41..and obviously well grown/mature..
they are probably Not AF.
Switch them to a 12/12 schedule..and I think you will have your answer.

Don't use the Tyne Bridge on the way to work this morning..there will be a queue of sunderland fans..waiting to jump off it...;-)

5-1..5-1...5-1....:clap:
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mossys said:


I Think I am the bearer of bad news here..
But IF they are @ day 41..and obviously well grown/mature..
they are probably Not AF.
Switch them to a 12/12 schedule..and I think you will have your answer.

Don't use the Tyne Bridge on the way to work this morning..there will be a queue of sunderland fans..waiting to jump off it...;-)

5-1..5-1...5-1....:clap:
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they are just starting to go now i think the branching is changing to asymetrical they were lowlife auto blueberry but i have read somwhere they might be super auto or summit and they dont start till around day 40 but not sure if thats true
 
IF they are going asymetric..then it is almost certain they are non-af.

BUT...wait another 7 days and watch them..nothing is hurting.
 
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IF they are going asymetric..then it is almost certain they are non-af.

BUT...wait another 7 days and watch them..nothing is hurting.[/QUOTE

ok il do that it said on the seed pack lowlife auto blueberry.. it will be 6 week tomorow since i put seed in pot after i germanated them 10 fem and one was male cos they have all shown preflowers and i have the george cervantes bible which says the branching changes from symetrical to asymetrical when the plant starts changing to flower. just this bible dont tell you nothing about autos
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