The Art of The Auto

hey guys thought i wouold post some recent pics of my lowlife auto blueberry and my delicious seeds la diva. blueberry is on day 51 and la diva is about a month ahead. blueberry is the taller one. she didnt auto so i switched lights to 12/12 at day 40. la diva seems to be a runt.

peace

43Hitman said:

okay so I went out and bought a Milwaukee pH51 today and calibrated it per the instructions. Then I started my flush like you said FD and these are my results:

First flush- 6.6 in 6.3 out
2nd flush- 6.6 in 6.3 out
3rd flush- 6.9 in 6.35 out
4th flush- 6.9 in 6.4 out
5th flush- 6.9 in 6.4 out
Total on these flushes equals about 1 1/2 gallons of pH'd distilled water

Round 2

1st flush- 7.0 in 6.5 out
2nd flush- 7.0 in 6.6 out

okay so it seems that I have it stabilized now. So since I don't have any epson salt at the moment would MagiCal work now that I have the pH right? Or should I wait and get some epson salt tomorrow and just use that. Thanks so much for your help in this thread FD.

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Sounds to me that you got the soil back to where its needed. If you are showing 6.5-6.6 thats where you want to be. As far as the MagiCal goes i am not familiar with the product. If it has both additives in it i would hold off till you get the epsom salt. Reason being is because you are only really looking at 1 issue here and thats the mag issue. I fear that if you add both you may be adding insult to injury and cause another lock out. Hope all goes well and id like to watch her come back to health. Just remember dont over do it. Then you start back at 1/4 nutes when she stops the yellowing.

Remember less is more in this case

karma sent

FarmingNinja said:

does anyone here have any expierence with the strains from 7 dwarfs?

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I have never, nor have i seen these advertised as of right now. Mind you i have had my nose in my thread for a while
but something doesn't seem right here. There boasting the same stability that were all working for here. Yet we all still see the same genetic mutations when these new auto strains are released. The latest being the plant wont even auto.

Just be cautious and research before you spend your hard earned money, you'll be glad you did. Look for test runs as well as actual reports on the strain you choose, not only for AF but all genetics. These strains promise a lot, the thing they dont remind you of is that they were in perfect conditions, and if this is your first roll go simple and work your way into it. You learn so much as you grow.

G/L

FD

FullDuplex said:

I have never, nor have i seen these advertised as of right now. Mind you i have had my nose in my thread for a while
but something doesn't seem right here. There boasting the same stability that were all working for here. Yet we all still see the same genetic mutations when these new auto strains are released. The latest being the plant wont even auto.

Just be cautious and research before you spend your hard earned money, you'll be glad you did. Look for test runs as well as actual reports on the strain you choose, not only for AF but all genetics. These strains promise a lot, the thing they dont remind you of is that they were in perfect conditions, and if this is your first roll go simple and work your way into it. You learn so much as you grow.

G/L

FD

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thanks for the response. i was kind of thinking the same thing, just sounds a little too good to be true.
what would be a good yiielder that still kept the 60-75 day grow? also if i went the cfl route do i need the 6500k for the first couple of weeks or would i start them on 2700k? how many cfl watts per plant would be recommended? sorry for all the questions but i see so much conflicting answers to those questions this seemed like a good place to ask.
thanks

FarmingNinja said:

thanks for the response. i was kind of thinking the same thing, just sounds a little too good to be true.
what would be a good yiielder that still kept the 60-75 day grow? also if i went the cfl route do i need the 6500k for the first couple of weeks or would i start them on 2700k? how many cfl watts per plant would be recommended? sorry for all the questions but i see so much conflicting answers to those questions this seemed like a good place to ask.
thanks

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Id recommend the Purple Jem If you can get your hands on them, if not than something from the lowryder line. Its a well known stable auto.

I would recommend a 6500k till sex then past then 2700k till the end. Depends on the size of your room for lights. If you have the room, run 4 or more but if not at least 2.

FullDuplex said:

Id recommend the Purple Jem If you can get your hands on them, if not than something from the lowryder line. Its a well known stable auto.

I would recommend a 6500k till sex then past then 2700k till the end. Depends on the size of your room for lights. If you have the room, run 4 or more but if not at least 2.

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sounds good. thanks, i truly appreciate the information.

Hey pp sorry it has taken me soooooooooo long to get here but I have been busy as fuck getting my outdoor season ready and it has been a massive change for me to from using coco to soil and manures this year... so far i am not so happy with the results but that is another story as this is an auto thread

ok so where do i start... I had the missfortune of having all my work stolen from my house and my outdoor seed runs this year and a very nice member was kind enough to replace everything i had stolen with some new for me to play with there was a great selection of autos to play with I dont really have time to go look in the stash atm to list what was there but lets just say at least 8 diff autos probably more anyways alll the seeds i dropped turned out to be male... I know I know you guys are calling bullshit but its true... LOL I am not really one to look at the negative of a bad situation but rahter I like to focus on the positive I now have lots of pollen that will be used later in the year when i find the spesh female

I also have some reworked auto ak47 and some cheese head autos NYLD going atm.. which i will be collecting the pollen from the best male of each and saving it for the next seed run the best females with me hit pollen from male critical + that was selected by a breeding friend of mine

its gonna be a great ride ppl and I will be creating my own thread once i got some more pics but i snapped these today not to far along and a little water deprived.

FullD....
First hydrocortisone..or nerve blocking injections/epidural..?

They are a lower back issue and Im looking to find something to take the pain
rather than the shots that she is having to deal with.

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Did she get to try the Incense..?
That in dominance is my Perfect pain-killer.

Right now ALF seems to ease the pain but not all the way
BudWider made her just forget about them but not remove the pain all together.

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Tell her to SMOKE more....
But..
on a serious note...
IF she has muscle spasms..or kinda joint compression...

(I would recommend making her an ALF trim/bud vodka.
The effect is so different to smoke...
it seems to loosen and bring more flexibility to the body.
taken through the day like tincture/medicine..)

IF it had been a few generations ago..
I would have said don't make the ALF BW cross..too much of a muchness..
BUT
I know they have been rolled enough generations away with different selection points...
and..
I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't pick up a strengthening.

mmm...mmmm....mmmm...thinking..

7 Times Afghan dominant....should be enough to stop an Elephant..mid charge...

Worth a shot at..

Im thinking about crossing the two to see if this alone may produce the result i am looking for

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Little Tip.....
Grind a bit of BOTH..
add it to a smoke and get her to try the combination.

Instant bud cross..give you an idea if it is a cross Worth persuing.

Also..and I think this May prove to be the most important part of cross selection..
let Lady D do the selection by Nose on her cross.

IMO..self-medication is an inherant part of our genetic make up...
and she will Instinctively pick out the pheno she needs for meds.

Certainly an experiment that Needs doing.

I know once i get my hands on that scope i will be able to look closer at the plant for certain kinds
of indications to certain traits. Like the hairs that produce the oils i saw on some of your
close up pics in BH's thread. This will allow me to get scent as well as look and tric formation down to a science

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According to the book...
THC trics have no smell..
only the Terps/aromats carry the smell..

soooo...I'm thinking of ways if I can Burst one...we might get a better idea then....



Come to Daddy.....

hydrolenny.

Yeah, I picked up a 25x-300x cheap digital scope online ($25 US) which does the trick for the up-close stuff.

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Bargain m8..the tric photos are Top Class...

BUT, I still prefer my smaller purple Jem. I am not in it for the quantity. I love the small size and purple coloring

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Yeah m8..I'm always winding the guys up about being Plagued by Purples...
But..
I wouldn't swap em..the colour changes are so interesting.
Canna Orchids.

I DID have some Lowryder pollen and I tried pollinating a couple low buds on the purple Jem, but that wont, of course, help lock down that purple pheno. Figured I would just get more seeds for the hell of it, but who knows.

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Always IBL seed you buy first...
Then you can Play with them...
Look to start hybriding the colour down from the new ones (IBL's) you make...

Something i would suggest is a tub style grow. Mossy does a good deal of breeding this way. Even though there is one pot you can have several AF's in one location. Allowing better selection for breeding in the same area. One 20L planter would be awesome

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Got some ideas that will help...


budolskie...

on white rhino from a good sorce which is cream everytime but just 1.7 for your £20

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That is actually quite good.
We were paying 10 euros a gram here 5-6 years ago..
and I saw posts recently saying some of the northern europeans..
the cold countries where it is hard to outdoor..
were paying 35-40 euros a gram.....

Think of the money you will be saving..

SmokeyDeHerb..

Then today have finally spotted a few little pistles
Her are some pics. Do you think i need to thin her out a bit, or should i wait a while yet?

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She is looking Lush..very happy.
IMO...I would let her go a bit longer..
once the buds are in place..and fattening..think about it.

Got on to nirvana about her not auto flowering and they're sending me some short rider beans by way of compensation, now that's customer service

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WELL DONE NIRVANA...

That is what I call a proper seed company.

sorry it has taken me soooooooooo long to get here

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Hey Bro..we were waiting..

I had the missfortune of having all my work stolen from my house and my outdoor seed runs this year and a very nice member was kind enough to replace everything i had stolen with some new for me to play with

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Since this happened to you I have been having a look around..and you would be surprised how many people DO get ripped when the cable guy has been for a house call...

anyways alll the seeds i dropped turned out to be male...

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done the same myself with pre-ferted compo..against my better judgement..
got a 70-90% male dominance.
Nice trick to remember if you want to open the male line up though.

its gonna be a great ride ppl and I will be creating my own thread once i got some more pics

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I Really want to see how they do in Australia..don't think we should get any variations in growth pattern...
but..
the thought we Might is Irresistible enough to have me glued to it...

What happened to the Fairy Lights with the energy saver bulb ends....
do you still have the photo..
That was a totally new one on me.

What happened with the job...?

hola, senior Mossy...long time no see...heard you were here, with questions...glad to have found u, was about to put out an APB on you.

Not sure what the policy is here about PM rights...we will talk soon.

mossys said:

SmokeyDeHerb..

She is looking Lush..very happy.
IMO...I would let her go a bit longer..
once the buds are in place..and fattening..think about it.

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Cheers m8, thanks for that. There are a few bud sites sitting just below the canopy that are partialy blocked by the leaves above. But i'll take your advice and wait until the buds start forming then see what i've got.

BTW, reading back a bit, you a follower of the toon then?

mossys said:

FullD....
First hydrocortisone..or nerve blocking injections/epidural..?

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hydrocortisone currently but if it continues i can see the blocking coming into play. Its a constant source of her grumpiness

Did she get to try the Incense..?
That in dominance is my Perfect pain-killer.

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Yes she did in both the JEM and the ALF. The ALF of course did way better in the pain relief for her. I remember you talking about that pheno having the best pain relief effects. So i gave her some to try.

Tell her to SMOKE more....

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(I would recommend making her an ALF trim/bud vodka.

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Getting her to smoke more is going to be easy lol but the vodka part may be a little tougher. She is not a fan of vodka in any form. Actually not a drinker at all she'll drink a beer with me every now and then but thats about it. She asked me why i had been saving all my main stems and trimmings. i told her for some MJ vodka and she cringed lol

I know they have been rolled enough generations away with different selection points...

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Makes sense that they are related due to them both containing tons of THC. I think that these two have given me the best tric photos ive ever taken, and they seem to meet my needs, just need to get them perfected for Lady D. Ill have to give the blend a try and see if it works any better on her.

Also..and I think this May prove to be the most important part of cross selection..
let Lady D do the selection by Nose on her cross.

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I think that i am gonan give this a go. I remember one of our talks during the cup challenge. This was when i keyed in on a certain scent. Then when i smoked it it did well with the oral pain (nerve and calcium deficiency) I know that this may do the trick for her. Once i set the new batch to germ and they start to flower im gonna dose them with some sugar water to heighten the smells see if it triggers something in her to choose one.

According to the book...
THC trics have no smell..
only the Terps/aromats carry the smell..

soooo...I'm thinking of ways if I can Burst one...we might get a better idea then....

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Interesting, i wasn't sure where it came from. So what ever that little hair is with that drop of goo is a scent gland i would assume. There has to be a way to but it but the thing is will you be able to smell it if you do? Im still curious though how these plants get the wide scent variations. Where do they get the scents from if they have no relation to the smell.

Like say the lemon, or bubble gum, where do these come from?

Something came to mind last night when i was looking over my plants.

We have talked a ton about how to properly grow them
how to and what to water them
how to pollinate and make seeds
as well as harvest our hard work.

One thing that we haven't really talked about is how to properly
harvest and dry seeds to make sure that we are gonna get a good germ rate.

Mossy, i know you have been breeding for years
everything that i stick in the ground from you has cracked
every single time. So i am hoping that you will share a little more
about the way that you harvest and dry your seeds.

I see this as just as important as the correct amount of light for our ladies.
This is the only way that we get to carry out the likeness of the strains
we like over the years as we all know we cant clone.

So with that in mind what do you suggest as the best method of harvesting seeds?

SmokeyDeHerb said:

BTW, reading back a bit, you a follower of the toon then?

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toon all the way heres my supposed blueberry auto flower after 6 weeks of 18/6 nothing happend this is first week of 12/12

budolskie said:

toon all the way heres my supposed blueberry auto flower after 6 weeks of 18/6 nothing happend this is first week of 12/12

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Sounds pretty similar to my predicament with my NL autos. Vegged for 4 weeks and zip, switched to 12/12 for 2 weeks and still zip so i tried adding a small amount of sulphate of potash - very small mind - to give her a bit of a kick up the arse and what do you know, pre-flowers!! Have now got her running on 16/8 as 12/12 will apparantly lower the yeild and she seems to be doing well on it.
Charlie @ Nirvana said the problem with the NL is that they will flower but it could be tomorrow, could be next month, they just don't know when or why.
Regarding the Toon - having a good un so far but you've yet to come up against Roys Rejuvinated Reds, and after stuffing Chelski (first half anyway) the only way is up. To be fair tho, we couldn't have got much lower than we were

Forgot to say, your girls are looking good. Hope you get a nice smoke off of them

Chyna.....mmmaaaaannnnnnnnn............

we can get mail here straight away....
so I just done you a long mail..pressed the button and it says Chyna has chosen NOT to receive mail...

agghhhh.....

so I think you might have to adjust some buttons on your settings..or something..

was about to put out an APB on you.

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Coz you couldn't bear the Silence...?.........

Looks like were getting the entire team back together here. Now with Chyna and lowrdr. Good stuff

Had some catching up to do in this thread

Good to see everyone knows where to go now.

FD: Can i post in here about the terp stuff?! I have been finding some good pics that show different structures on the leaves. If you guys are here i'll post them here.

Bh.