The Art of The Auto

mossys

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FullD..shroomy....



Oguns Thunder..(Nigerian Nightmare x JEM)
In the Big pot are the seed that come off the little coloured pheno with the beautiful balance..that I Loved..
Small pot are the mixed where all the phenos are still available..white moms.
But judging by the leaf stem colours..either could colour up..

24 cms..10 inch head-spread..and hardly out the compo...
guess we will mark That one down as possible male.



G'day Mossy, thanks very much for the feed back.
No probs...
Try running your system on 18/6 next time..
still within the accepted light schedule..and it will cut down on the heat build up/stress

If you can..give them a vent every now and then..or pop a fan in every now and then..
 

FullDuplex

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On the other site wearing the badge told noobs that you were a good AF grower who was approachable..
and willing to share info..in a friendly helpful manner..
I Think you Fit the Badge...:-P
I have to agree here, very knowledgeable and knows a great deal on water applications (even ones iv'e only read about :o) and is friendly.






Baad Betty....:clap: ..hope its a red one.
indeed she lives up to the name, the two that had to be flipped are the biggest at the moment on the BB side. Id like a red one but i think i got another fang coming into play :) I have to look back at the start of my last cloven, but unless my eye is lying to me i may see her out again....


I noticed..it will be interesting to see how they do.
Me too, id like to see how much of a difference root depth does make.
i wanna see if i can grow tall buds on a stick :)
Not really just want to see if this changes the time
when i am used to seeing sex in just the one gal pots
I wanted to add height and figured this was the best way
all i did was remove about an inch or so on the bottom
and plant and cover, i like the look of just the raised
root ball but at that early stage my mix wont hold together.
SO i stuck with the cups :) fingers crossed

I Fancy the sponge trick will be good to watch too..
I take it you are burying the sponge with an air-block in it and just plugging it in for a time each day.
Something like that. I have some sea sponge here that is nice and porous
Ive trimmed a hole just to fit the ceramic stone and slide the sponge over
place that near the bottom of the pot and fill with dirt.

Ill run the pump 20/4 with the lights as i have an extra outlet in my room

Might as well make full use of the pump.
Thinking if you do it in the polystyrene pots..you can cut holes through and leave the pipe in situ..
BTW..My polys..look where they have the drainage holes....
Thats what i want to do have them on like an air bed of some sort.

NONE in the bottom.
I'm thinking..it Might be good to copy that...
25 ltrs of wet compo is a hell of a weight..
putting holes in the bottom May affect the integrity and weaken the bottom.
ME TOOOO, lol i can see it now, id get it all situated and all my little seeds planted
and go to pick it up and the bottom jus sits there with all the dirt on the floor :clap::wall:

Ill deff do the same on mine, as long as there is a hole that run off will get there.
The roots will do the rest :)

Bring on the girls....:clap:
Karma sent my friend
 

FullDuplex

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Oguns Thunder..(Nigerian Nightmare x JEM)
In the Big pot are the seed that come off the little coloured pheno with the beautiful balance..that I Loved..
Small pot are the mixed where all the phenos are still available..white moms.
But judging by the leaf stem colours..either could colour up..
Both look fantastic but there is something with the ones in the left pot.
They all look so uniform in there.
Now when you look at leaf and stem colors what usually indicates a color change?
Thats something i dont have my eye trained on yet :)

24 cms..10 inch head-spread..and hardly out the compo...
guess we will mark That one down as possible male.
That plant is rather dom in that pot and has a big head
i have one growing at that rate as well i was thinking male as well
 

mossys

Active Member
Id like a red one but i think i got another fang coming into play :smile:
sounds like a Fair swap to me..:-P..is that why you had the Fang photos out..double checking.

i like the look of just the raised
root ball but at that early stage my mix wont hold together.
SO i stuck with the cups :smile: fingers crossed
Fingers crossed..there is nothing like a live experiment...:clap:

Ill run the pump 20/4 with the lights as i have an extra outlet in my room
I'll be watching..coz I have an air-pump...
(by next week..I will have a soil ph meter too..been treating myself..)

ME TOOOO, lol i can see it now, id get it all situated and all my little seeds planted
and go to pick it up and the bottom jus sits there with all the dirt on the floor :clap::wall:
Yup..that is why I mentioned it..with taking the girls to the glass-house to photo..
I notied a Flex in the bottom when I lifted...
made me think about it.

Karma sent my friend
Appreciated..
I now have 3 identified males in that one pot..and they are all Stud males..
beautiful specimens..
I'd like to think some girlies are gonna show.

Both look fantastic but there is something with the ones in the left pot.
They all look so uniform in there.
Maann..you are getting too good for these now.
Left pot has had 2 generations of definite pheno selection..

Right pot..mass germ..mixed males/females...to keep the pheno selection rolling..see what else is in there that might take my fancy.

Red leaf stems are quite common..I Think it is an afgan trait..
always worth watching..
but is often matched with white bud.

Thrombosis blue/purple leaf stems Usually indicate bud colour to come.
Sometimes the purple will disappear..and re-emerge later..
so if you see it early..
mark the plant with a tag..so you know it Was there.

Also..The Nigerian has a very distinct colour trait that JEM doesn't carry..
vertical purple STRIPED mainstem...just in the top 20% of it..
IF you see that..you have a Nigerian dominant.
 

FullDuplex

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sounds like a Fair swap to me..:-P..is that why you had the Fang photos out..double checking.
Yep i sure did and one of the guys was talking about an weird anomaly so i got her out :)

Fingers crossed..there is nothing like a live experiment...:clap:
Exactly, i can already see a difference in growth compared to my last runs.
Ive also moved the HPS up about 4 or so inches. I had it sitting on them.
Ill move it close again once the heads form

I'll be watching..coz I have an air-pump...
(by next week..I will have a soil ph meter too..been treating myself..)
Good i hope this works itll be interesting results





I'd like to think some girlies are gonna show.
They will my friend i can feel it in me bones. Maybe thats the JEM talking....


Red leaf stems are quite common..I Think it is an afgan trait..
always worth watching..
but is often matched with white bud.

Thrombosis blue/purple leaf stems Usually indicate bud colour to come.
Sometimes the purple will disappear..and re-emerge later..
so if you see it early..
mark the plant with a tag..so you know it Was there.

Also..The Nigerian has a very distinct colour trait that JEM doesn't carry..
vertical purple STRIPED mainstem...just in the top 20% of it..
IF you see that..you have a Nigerian dominant.
And thank you for this great bit of info here my friend. Now i know what to look for. I have some color variation going on on one of each strain, BB has a darker color coming in on the leaves as they get older, and i noticed some purple hues to an icu. Its stuff i caught under macro and im crossing my fingers that it comes out strong.
 

John Mondello

Active Member
Red leaf stems are quite common..I Think it is an afgan trait..
always worth watching..
but is often matched with white bud.

Thrombosis blue/purple leaf stems Usually indicate bud colour to come.
Sometimes the purple will disappear..and re-emerge later..
so if you see it early..
mark the plant with a tag..so you know it Was there.

Also..The Nigerian has a very distinct colour trait that JEM doesn't carry..
vertical purple STRIPED mainstem...just in the top 20% of it..
IF you see that..you have a Nigerian dominant.
Yes, thank you for this info... stored in my mossy n fd database reference

J
 

John Mondello

Active Member
I have to agree here, very knowledgeable and knows a great deal on water applications (even ones iv'e only read about :o) and is friendly.

well thank you for the complimtent as well FD... always glad to help people... its been done so much for me in th past I feel I have to pass it on to others... good karma X good karma

J
 

FullDuplex

Well-Known Member
well thank you for the complimtent as well FD... always glad to help people... its been done so much for me in th past I feel I have to pass it on to others... good karma X good karma

J
And thats what its all about passing along the info

And as a final count tonight i harvested 377 seeds from my JEM, and the search begins
 

shroomyshroom

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That Oguns is looking might dam fine mossy :)

I am passing some of your genetics to a very good friend of mine here in Australia :) he is one of the breeders working on a strain called OMS aka Old Mother Sativa :) an od sativa strain that that a few bfreeders are trying to rework here in aust :) his version is a feminized seed version or cone version :)

I am working on a cross of it that i spoke about over at IC... it involves OMS, auto AK47, NYLD and another strain that i cant remember atm :)
 

mossys

Active Member
JM..they are looking great..I like #2 particulally..
But..
Is that a touch of dampening-off on the top of the compo in photos 1-3..or is it just a trick of the light...?
Well shit... I like that! Just wish I could see the title/autjor of that book!
:smile:
Which book m8..?
If it is mine..then it is in google books..so you can read it for free...
also..
I saw some PH balance food/diet books there..
might be of interest to you.

Hello friend!

noticed, but never inquired


this is the pheno that I am isolating out of the Oguns/nightmare...
with the sati leaves and the indy budding
I wan' it in the blue/grey pheno like the one on the left..



this is the mass germ selection pot...



Look at the extremes on the phenos..
height..budding..

the one on the extreme right is sati dom..by the length of the leaf stems..
but indy budded..by the coverage.
the one on the left is sati dom leaf..sati dom bud coverage...

I've been dickering with thoughts of taking the extreme sati dom pheno out as well...
and fine-ing her out.

Still in 2 minds..well see what these f2's bring.
 

John Mondello

Active Member
nice! I like your analysis on that... very cool.. i'd keep both and keep running gens out and testing to what develops... may end up wanting to cross them to get certain traits back out... however, I believe you are a much more experienced breeder...

JM..they are looking great..I like #2 particulally..
But..
Is that a touch of dampening-off on the top of the compo in photos 1-3..or is it just a trick of the light...?
by damping off do you mean the green algae on the top of the soil? yes, had fogger humidity set a bit high initially at 85% Realizeed it late last nigh and adjust down to 70%... enough for supplememntal but without stagnation... also ran a heavy duty air-out cycle to get the general humidity down..

todays pics to come in a few! :)


by the book I mean the one you flashed the image of on "plant security" :)

J
 

John Mondello

Active Member
btw. you think I should dial back to 20/4 photo yet or go another 4-7 days? (still currently on 24)

also... the number 2 you liked is the auto - widow (LR#2 X Widow, then backrossed I believe with LR#2 again to stabilize the auto)
auto-widow-seeds-plant pheno 2.jpgauto-widow-seeds pheno 1.jpg

these are the pics from the seed company... notice the distinct differences between phenotypes.
 
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