The Art of The Auto

PrezDickie

PrezDickie

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I'm putting mine in 5 gallon smart pots since auto's love to root big.
I'll be running 3 easy ryders and one g13 labs auto white russian anyone have experience with auto white Russian?
 
drmarcusg

drmarcusg

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DesertSativa said:
From these two runs, what lighting schedule would you recommend? If 12/12 is frostier but smaller and 20/4 is bigger but the trich's don't ripen, should 18/6 or 16/8 be ideal?
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i would recommend anything 18/6 or higher....

allthough my girls on 12/12 are really starting to bulk up...surprisingly...ill update weights when i chop
 
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findme

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i'd figure a true auto would prefer 24/0 all the way through and anything less would decrease yield. All autos should be the same in this characteristic.
 
surfhead

surfhead

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findme said:
i'd figure a true auto would prefer 24/0 all the way through and anything less would decrease yield. All autos should be the same in this characteristic.
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i would agree with that about most autos. but with all the new ones out, that is changing. greenhouse seeds has auto's for 12/12 also kannabia is also changing the playing field here's a link that's worth a quick read .
http://www.kannabia.es/en/ctlg/kannabia-auto-flowering
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Big_Bang_Autoflowering/Green_House_Seeds/
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Super_Critical_Automatic/Green_House_Seeds/
 
Hendershot

Hendershot

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Just started 12 seeds. 3 each of Lowboldt, Smurfberry, Double Diesel Ryder, and Afghan Kush Ryder. The Lowboldt and DD all came up and look great so far, but only 1 Kush broke soil, and the Smurfberry absolutely sucks balls. Two of the three broke soil, but are yellow and sickly looking. One of them actually snapped in half while uncurling. I plan on growing these outdoors, cuz let's face it, there's no substitute for the sun.. they won't get more than 13-14 hours of light, but I've heard wonderful things about outdoor autos..
 
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tomcat724

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I have a quick question .. This is my first grow and have 2 easy ryder plants about 39 days old , and I'm curios to know when it comes time to harvest besides the buds can i use the leaves to say make brownies and if so are there specific ones to use and not to..? i would like to try to use up as much of these plants as i can... and sorry for the newb question , but thanks for any help and info.. this is a great thread with alot of info to sort through...
 
PrezDickie

PrezDickie

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tomcat724 said:
I have a quick question .. This is my first grow and have 2 easy ryder plants about 39 days old , and I'm curios to know when it comes time to harvest besides the buds can i use the leaves to say make brownies and if so are there specific ones to use and not to..? i would like to try to use up as much of these plants as i can... and sorry for the newb question , but thanks for any help and info.. this is a great thread with alot of info to sort through...
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The big fan leaves aren't worth the time and effort, but keep the "sugar leaves" those smaller and trich covered ones: to cook with, make butter from, or get some bubble bags and make hash!
 
teflondummy

teflondummy

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Check out this little 20 day old monster. It is a blue himalayan diesel grown under 20/4 CFLs in a hempy/DWC hybrid.
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I started out with a hempy style grow in perlite and added a 4 inch air stone to the mix. I also moved the hole up to create a deeper water table.
 
hoss12781

hoss12781

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21 plants is a lot for two 400w hps lights, especially in big pots. I'd make sure you have some solid side lighting. I use 105w cfls, they produce around 6000 lumens and make sure the plants on the ends are not neglected. Also if you want to push your 400w to the max get some plant max 430w hps bulbs. They go at 58,000 lumens and have a spectrum similar to a hortilux but cost around 25-35 bucks.
 
roll it up smoke it up

roll it up smoke it up

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I have 8 cfl's for sidelighting currently I'll probably have 12-14 by finish. My initial crop of just the six plants will be 3 weeks ahead of the bulk of the plants so im not too worried about the space. I have 115,000 to 120,00 lumens on my plants 20 hours out of the day. I just picked up some Fox farm Tiger bloom and they seem to love it, my elder plants started to flower about a week ago!
 
hoss12781

hoss12781

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glad its working well for ya. I used to use tiger bloom with good results but recently switched to the three step open seasame, beastie bloom, and cha-ching. Words better IMO. Also I only used about half of the recommended dosage for each. Especially with the Blue Diesel. They don't like the nutes as much as others I've grown.
 
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findme

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quick question, does purple ryder really take 7 weeks from seed to harvest? if so, what type of yields do you usually see? I'm planning on getting this strain since its fast from the description. What do you guys think?
 
DesertSativa

DesertSativa

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findme said:
quick question, does purple ryder really take 7 weeks from seed to harvest? if so, what type of yields do you usually see? I'm planning on getting this strain since its fast from the description. What do you guys think?
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I don't know from personal experience but my guess is that it takes longer than that and the breeders kind of cheated a few weeks.
 
TshirtNinja

TshirtNinja

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roll it up smoke it up said:
what lighting were you using to pull 2 oz's per plant?
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I use nothing but Blackstar brand leds. I have a grow journal completed here http://autoflower.net/forums/showthread.php/354-Short-Rider-AutoFlower-planted-12-19

Here are a few pics of my ladies right before harvest with one so fat if you don't support it, it does a wicked gangsta lean to the floor....



Now I am working on 4 different strains right now for auto flowers. Blue Himalaya Diesel, Super Cali Haze, and MI5 are all growing while the Jet47 is just now germinating. I will have to transplant my SCH to 5 gallon system here soon if they take off well they will get up to 6 foot no joke. Here is a recent pic of my BHD at only 35 days from seed except for the right one that is 16 days.
 
TshirtNinja

TshirtNinja

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hoss12781 said:
a word of advice - 24/0 could represent a fire hazard if not done properly. Lights, especially HID bulbs need some down time. You can run a HPS for 24/0 (I'm not recommending this) but if you try that with a MH bulb it will fuck up the bulb toot sweet, especially if you're using an unprotected arch MH bulb.
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Only to the extent of your system bro.... I use LED only and leave it all on 24-7 with 4 240w units. I sooooooooooo want to buy 2 more for when these super autos reach 5-6 feet and I need both top and side lighting. My goal is to store back around a year of good bud for myself (if i were to stay high every waking moment of a year) and then stop growing for a while.
 
hoss12781

hoss12781

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You're right, I was referring to HID set ups which I run (2X 400w HPS & 360W cfls). To answer the question posed earlier I only grow 4 plants at a time. In my state that is the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony. This set up generally pulls at least 1.5 if not close to or more than 2 oz per auto.
 
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roll it up smoke it up

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just checked the grow room 2 out 3 onyx's have hermied! So far 75% of the onyx I planted either failed to germinate or hermied. But so far out of 20 reg short stuff seeds auto's olny these 2 onyx have not been female, none the less I believe the onyx is not stable enough. I'll have to try the fems before I completely dismiss them.
 
roll it up smoke it up

roll it up smoke it up

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I was so psyched about the Onyx, my first attempt at the onyx resulted 0 out of 8 then I contacted short stuff seeds and they sent out replacements then 3 out of 4 sprout but 2 hermie!
 
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findme

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Ok that makes some sense because I ha an onyx plant that didn't autoflower ad then it hermied afterwards. It surprised me when it happened because I thought I mislabeled the plant with a non auto but neither one auto flowered so i can say that onyx isn't stable.
 
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