The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

I forget who said it, but a famous prosecutor once said something to the effect that "there comes a time in every succesful prosecution when a defendant realizes they have lost; that all options are off the table; that no matter what they do they will be found guilty and will go to prison. At that moment, you can see the life drain from their soul".

My greatest dream is that we see that moment publicly, and dramatically not only for trump, but for the entire royal family and entourage. They all need to go; along with their little dog pence (said in my best wicked with voice).

Heheheheheheh. Now Fly! Fly!

DIY-HP-LED said:

We can have a bit of fun with it, speculation doesn't need to be all negative!

If I could put the bug in Donald's ear I would wind him up real good! Make em squirm! When they are scared and paranoid they make more mistakes. Seriously there are an awful lot of good folks gunning for these pricks, this shit does not sit well with the majority of Americans. This bullshit is just too obvious.

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Have a peek at this, this guy is a lawyer and apparently a pretty good one too.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Have a peek at this, this guy is a lawyer and apparently a pretty good one too.

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Just a nit, but Mcgahn is NOT trumps attorney. He is chief white house council, and represents the United States, not the president.

Also, cox was fired, even if the courts later ruled that was illegal. The courts didn't order re-reinstatement. Finally, Cox operated under a different set of rules. He was a special prosecutor, whereas muehler is a special council. Different origins; one is in congress and the other is in the DoJ.

But, it highlights how messy this could all get.

@DIY-HP-LED our house intel committee just voted to release their propaganda memo and block the democrats from releasing theirs. you still think we are dealing with decent people?

greg nr said:

Just a nit, but Mcgahn is NOT trumps attorney. He is chief white house council, and represents the United States, not the president.

Also, cox was fired, even if the courts later ruled that was illegal. The courts didn't order re-reinstatement. Finally, Cox operated under a different set of rules. He was a special prosecutor, whereas muehler is a special council. Different origins; one is in congress and the other is in the DoJ.

But, it highlights how messy this could all get.

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Well the news is gonna be interesting like the Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times". All the networks are building out their legal benches of talking heads, there's gonna be sports in the courts and they are getting ready. I can't see this situation persisting for anymore than a couple of months, these two bulls are gonna lock horns. The way I got it figured is ole Mueller is gonna get Trump by the balls before he has to handle him by the horns!

Sour Wreck said:

@DIY-HP-LED our house intel committee just voted to release their propaganda memo and block the democrats from releasing theirs. you still think we are dealing with decent people?

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I never for a moment thought that, but it shows you how desperate they are, these are the actions of desperate men. There must be something truly horrifying they are trying to hide, something worth wearing a suicide vest for Trump over, I wonder what? Mueller knows and so will the public.

The memo was to get Rosenstein, he's next, We'll know a lot more soon enough, let the leaking begin.

"The price of liberty is constant vigilance" is a truism that is being proven before our very eyes. Every generation has it's unique struggle in this, but the constitution remains the same. The US constitution is a living document up for amendment and reinterpretation, when it becomes static and dead, so does the country. Those who have sworn an oath to the constitution swear to uphold the law and to protect the constitution from all enemies foreign (Putin) and domestic (Trump). Take heart, take a side and do what ya can for your country, when guys like Mueller lose it, its ok for you too. Remember these pricks in november and don't just vote, there's lot's more a participating citizen can do, work for a democrat, write a letter to yer congressman and call and visit his fucking office! If he's GOP go to his town hall with noose graphics on yer T shirts, scream "hang em" like a Trump rally. Freak out in general, act like a republican!

this shit is gonna get way bigger and uglier than watergate. if we count russians, there might be 1000 people involved like you said

Sour Wreck said:

this shit is gonna get way bigger and uglier than watergate. if we count russians, there might be 1000 people involved like you said

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This is to the death for sure, the stakes have gone up and the GOP is going all in for Trump. They must be out of their fucking minds, all in for treason and Trump, the GOP and Putin need to sign a treaty of mutual support and make it formal.

I didn't think these cunts would roll over, but attacking the FBI and justice department crosses a line and their ain't no going back. Nothing in the history of the republic like this, it's something new. Trump clearly has the republican's pricks in his pocket, for now...

DIY-HP-LED said:

This is to the death for sure, the stakes have gone up and the GOP is going all in for Trump. They must be out of their fucking minds, all in for treason and Trump, the GOP and Putin need to sign a treaty of mutual support and make it formal.

I didn't think these cunts would roll over, but attacking the FBI and justice department crosses a line and their ain't no going back. Nothing in the history of the republic like this, it's something new.

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you thought we were joking about how lunatic fucking fringe the GOP has become. if this shit continues, the country will see violence in the streets.

DIY-HP-LED said:

This is to the death for sure, the stakes have gone up and the GOP is going all in for Trump. They must be out of their fucking minds, all in for treason and Trump, the GOP and Putin need to sign a treaty of mutual support and make it formal.

I didn't think these cunts would roll over, but attacking the FBI and justice department crosses a line and their ain't no going back. Nothing in the history of the republic like this, it's something new.

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they didn't roll over or lose their minds, they've been blackmailed by putin. the entire gop is being held hostage by a foreign dictator who murders and jails political opponents.

I have a feeling that there might be something coming out from left field that might stun a few. I can't believe the GOP leadership is gonna lash themselves to the mast of this ship, the captain is a loser. There ain't no doubt how this is gonna end up, these pricks are gonna get in serious trouble. This is about a foreign attack on America and a counterintelligence investigation and a goddamn serious national security matter. These people are desperate fools, soon the hand of every patriot will be against them.

Folks just ain't that stupid, some are, but not enough. Who knows though, maybe Trump was the national IQ test and America failed...

DIY-HP-LED said:

I have a feeling that there might be something coming out from left field that might stun a few. I can't believe the GOP leadership is gonna lash themselves to the mast of this ship, the captain is a loser. There ain't no doubt how this is gonna end up, these pricks are gonna get in serious trouble. This is about a foreign attack on America and a counterintelligence investigation and a goddamn serious national security matter. These people are desperate fools, soon the hand of every patriot will be against them.

Folks just ain't that stupid, some are, but not enough. Who knows though, maybe Trump was the national IQ test and America failed...

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you don't get it. republicans are not patriots. they hate freedom of religion unless its christianity. they want to repeal the 14th amendment and they want constitutional amendments to prevent same sex marriage and abortion. these morons don't really like the constitution, but they call themselves patriots. i call them fucking traitors

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you don't get it. republicans are not patriots. they hate freedom of religion unless its christianity. they want to repeal the 14th amendment and they want constitutional amendments to prevent same sex marriage and abortion. these morons don't really like the constitution, but they call themselves patriots. i call them fucking traitors

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In the last 16 months there has been a decline of registered republicans by 6%, this fiasco is gonna whittle it down a few points more. There is no longer a 50/50 split in the country, it's more like 60/40 and might go to 70/30 for the midterms if this bullshit keeps up. People are gonna be pissed, you are!

DIY-HP-LED said:

In the last 16 months there has been a decline of registered republicans by 6%, this fiasco is gonna whittle it down a few points more. There is no longer a 50/50 split in the country, it's more like 60/40 and might go to 70/30 for the midterms if this bullshit keeps up. People are gonna be pissed, you are!

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the republican party is going to need a new name after all of this shit.

DIY-HP-LED said:

This is to the death for sure, the stakes have gone up and the GOP is going all in for Trump. They must be out of their fucking minds, all in for treason and Trump, the GOP and Putin need to sign a treaty of mutual support and make it formal.

I didn't think these cunts would roll over, but attacking the FBI and justice department crosses a line and their ain't no going back. Nothing in the history of the republic like this, it's something new. Trump clearly has the republican's pricks in his pocket, for now...

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TYeah, well, no surprise if you were paying attention.

DIY-HP-LED said:

In the last 16 months there has been a decline of registered republicans by 6%, this fiasco is gonna whittle it down a few points more. There is no longer a 50/50 split in the country, it's more like 60/40 and might go to 70/30 for the midterms if this bullshit keeps up. People are gonna be pissed, you are!

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You need to check your numbers. The gop was only about 25% of the electorate in 2016. The dems were closer to 30%, but not much more. The remainder were indies, or at least people who wouldn't commit for one reason or another.

Unfortunately a lot of indies vote with the gop. Always have.

But the real crime is gerrymandering, voter suppression, and vote tampering. Don't discount therm. In addition to treason and sedition, these are the tools of the gop majority and the death of democracy..

greg nr said:

You need to check your numbers. The gop was only about 25% of the electorate in 2016. The dems were closer to 30%, but not much more. The remainder were indies, or at least people who wouldn't commit for one reason or another.

Unfortunately a lot of indies vote with the gop. Always have.

But the real crime is gerrymandering, voter suppression, and vote tampering. Don't discount therm. In addition to treason and sedition, these are the tools of the gop majority and the death of democracy..

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As you say, gerrymandering and voter suppression are the larger effects that explain how a minority party continues to hold its grip on power. However as of 2014, Independents were about evenly split in their political leanings.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/05/5-facts-about-americas-political-independents/
Independents outnumber either Democrats or Republicans. A Pew Research Center analysis that examined partisan affiliation from 1992 to 2014 found that, in 2014, 39% of the public identified as independents, which was larger than the shares calling themselves Democrats (32%) or Republicans (23%).

most independents express a partisan leaning: In 2014, 17% of the public leaned toward the Democratic Party while 16% leaned toward the GOP; just 6% declined to lean toward a party. When the partisan leanings of independents were taken into account, 48% either identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic; 39% identified as Republicans or leaned Republican.

greg nr said:

TYeah, well, no surprise if you were paying attention.

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Your country is in worse shape than I figured, high treason is not a good sign. That is usually enough to wipe a party out or cause a civil war, very serious business. Not too many people expected these assholes to go this far, they must be hiding something catastrophic. What could possibly be worth this? I can't see them being on the map after november, this kind of stunt would have wiped them out in most western countries. Maybe if they figure they are fucked anyway, burn down the house on the way out. A real buch of patriots ya got there.

Watergate never went smooth either, Nixon fought like Hell, but the congress contained honorable men then. Today the GOP went from victim of the Trump russia scandal to participant and is in the same league as Trump, traitors all. After this bullshit there will be no going back, they jumped into the cauldron of festering shit and are now covered and reeking. Imagine the effect of future bombshell public releases as Mueller makes his criminal cases. Maybe it's a show for the base, all in for the Donald, cause they know there's a shocker coming that will get them off the hook, "we tried". Quite the performance though.

Shocking when you consider a counterintelligence investigation concerning national security is at stake. Literal treason by the President no less, the "high crimes" and misdemeanors part of impeachment.

Like I said, Game of Thrones ain't got nothing on this shit...

greg nr said:

TYeah, well, no surprise if you were paying attention.

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All the pundits are blown away by this bullshit, I'm not alone in being shocked by these assholes. Remember the russian bots we're coordinating with the GOP on this one in real time. Yer making history here and breaking fresh ground.

BTW: Trump missed the deadline for implementing sanctions on the russians and is making excuses.

When the day of reckoning comes in november it will sweep these assholes away.