The Debate Thread

Doer

Doer

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londonfog said:
I suggest you do some fact checking before you post. I watch the debate last night to hear Romneys plan..I walked away still not knowing. My vote still goes to Obama. Can't vote for something I know nothing about.
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Fact check. Obama was handed his smug ass, several times. And he just stood there. A debate is not about plans, and you never have gotten a plan from Obama. You get "act as if." Hide your head, everything will be fine,

Let me ask you. Why would you vote for a failure? It's plain. In our system you can only get another chance, after failure, if you LIE.

So, support the Lie, why? What plan did you vote for with Obama?

So, you are being dense on purpose. Obama never gave a Plan, never provided a budget that made any sense. The Dems controlled it all for 2 years and only jambed through Heath Care. Incomprehensible and labeled in Double Talk. Heath Care. NO. Tax Care for the govt. Don't need a budget, I guess. That was the budget.

You already blew it with Obama and just for HOPE for CHANGE. No plan at all. So, what are you taking about now, Partisan? If you are still voting Obama after all this, you are as lost as last time. FORWARD, beta droid, you don't need no plan.

How can you stay the course. 1- What course? 2 -This course? Are you brain dead with hope?

Do you like weakness in foreign policy? Don't you see it as actually dangerous for you and me. There are people trying to kill us.

Surely you can't think Obama gets this, at all? I'm afraid to vote for these amateurs. I'm voting against.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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An executives first order of business, government or otherwise, is a budget period fool. The pieces of shit O has handed to our law makers over the years now is the only thing he has done to gain the bi-partisan support promise with "Hope & Change". The fucked up thing is that they all agree that it is a piece of shit and O is incompetent to have even floated it.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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londonfog said:
You know what they say about assuming. I have Zero problems showing an ID to vote..again show me how I used bigotry.
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Fact: The right's actions are NOT ill willed.

Bigotry: The right's actions are ill willed.

... are you getting what I'm saying?
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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Go watch the debate on Youtube, than go turn on CNN, even CNN is bashing the guy. lol

Party is over, his forigen policy, (take out Osama) is shit also, the middle east is on fire. We apoligize for everything, our men and women are still being killed in Iraq and AFG.

He will not be able to defend any of it.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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NLXSK1 said:
The Democratic senate has not passed a budget in over 3 years. There are NO lines of communication between the legislative branch and the executive branch. We dont have a leader we have a dysfunctional dictator.

Obama promised he would reach across the aisle and bring congress together and we would change how government worked, blah blah blah... It did not happen, it is not happening and there is no evidence that it ever will happen with Obama.

Obama's biggest problem right now is that he has a record. And his golf record is better than his record of being president.
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Look up McConnell.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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TheMan13 said:
Fact: The right's actions are NOT ill willed.

Bigotry: The right's actions are ill willed.

... are you getting what I'm saying?
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nope....I think you better look up the word bigot...you have yet to show me how I used bigotry in my statements
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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chrishydro said:
Go watch the debate on Youtube, than go turn on CNN, even CNN is bashing the guy. lol

Party is over, his forigen policy, (take out Osama) is shit also, the middle east is on fire. We apoligize for everything, our men and women are still being killed in Iraq and AFG.

He will not be able to defend any of it.
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US troops still dying in Iraq? You sure about that?

Look up status of forces agreement. Obama never signed one.
 
Doer

Doer

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londonfog said:
again check you facts before posting it could save you from looking like "you don't know what in the fuck you talking about".

The federal budget doesn’t get enacted the way other laws do. The process starts with the president submitting his budget request to Congress early in the year. That voluminous document is partly a presidential wish list, but it also gives Congress a framework.

"The ‘PresBud,’ as it is called, forms the basis of the fiscal year budget that starts the following October," according to this post from the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense.

In Congress, the House and Senate have budget committees tasked with creating concurrent budget resolutions, using the president’s budget as a guide. As Taxpayers for Common Sense wrote, "The legislation they draft is for Congressional use only: it doesn't go to the President, it isn't law, it just helps Congress keep its budgetary ducks in a row."

So there is the first problem with Romney’s statement. The president doesn’t "pass" a budget. That’s Congress’ job.

In Obama’s case, he has submitted his budget request each year he has been in office. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/06/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-failed-pass-budget/
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BS! You want to nibble the details. The big picture is what was debated. Obama has submitted brain dead proposals he knows will go nowhere. Harry Reid will block all the real budgets from the House. And we still don't have a budget, on this President's watch.

No one seems to care, so Partisan have they become.

We have the ACA as the budget. So, dig deeper. The Pres. gets a budget if he wants one. I guarantee you that. He didn't want a budget in the first two years when he could have had one. All dems, remember? Why?

Those leaders did not want us, the public, to know the depths of the turd that was being laid. They didn't want a budget for the people to see as they were grunting out secret health tax.
 
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beenthere

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londonfog said:
again check you facts before posting it could save you from looking like "you don't know what in the fuck you talking about".

The federal budget doesn’t get enacted the way other laws do. The process starts with the president submitting his budget request to Congress early in the year. That voluminous document is partly a presidential wish list, but it also gives Congress a framework.

"The ‘PresBud,’ as it is called, forms the basis of the fiscal year budget that starts the following October," according to this post from the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense.

In Congress, the House and Senate have budget committees tasked with creating concurrent budget resolutions, using the president’s budget as a guide. As Taxpayers for Common Sense wrote, "The legislation they draft is for Congressional use only: it doesn't go to the President, it isn't law, it just helps Congress keep its budgetary ducks in a row."

So there is the first problem with Romney’s statement. The president doesn’t "pass" a budget. That’s Congress’ job.

In Obama’s case, he has submitted his budget request each year he has been in office. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/06/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-failed-pass-budget/
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I don't think Theman is talking about Obama's budget request, I believe he's referring to the fact that congress is required by law to pass a fiscal budget. And it is true the democrat led senate has not done so in over three years.

There is also no denying the fact president Obama has not demonstrated leadership in that arena, a president is elected to lead not observe.
 
SirGreenThumb

SirGreenThumb

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esq-obama-debate-photo-2012-lg.jpgThese damn notes are sooooo out of order.....
debate1.JPGI'm not listening, I'm not listening...."This anniversary sucks"

debate2.JPGIf you fuckers don't start listening to me, I'm gonna......... Oh, Fuck it..
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Doer

Doer

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And what a waste not to get that Iraq force agreement signed, after that life and treasure lost. What a waste to set a timetable for the enemy to plan with.

All that life and treasure lost.
 
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