nice,
Im not arguing the fact of nutrients inside the plants moving around I understand this concept. Thanks for the link but this is something I already knew. But what I don't know how are chemicals stored in the buds? Yes your right not to compare row crops with MJ because of the nute difference didn't look at it like that. But once the roots break down the nutrients in the soil for the plant to uptake and it's in the plant why would you want to rinse it out? and how could that even be possible if the nutes are stored in cells and stuff. the water enters these cells and just cleanses them out? So if a plant grows in a tropical area where it rains all the time then I guess that plant woud suffer from lack of nutrients correct? since the water would constantly be washing the nutrients out of the plant. I just can't grasp how you can rinse the plant clean from "chemicals"
ok for the record I TOTALLY agree flushing is neccessary for those that dump and dump shit into your soil not because of the taste but because of how bad it is for the roots and plant in general. causing many many problems. I have flushed before when I've used too much SS in a pot my plant kept getting burnt worse and worse so I ran lots of water through it and it eventually evened out but how does that wash out what's in the plant?
Plants always like to have a surplus. If you have healthy plants going into the last two weeks of flower they have a surplus - more nutrients necessary for the time being - even enough nutrients for the next few weeks. For most healthy plants; if you remove all nutrients they will be fine for several weeks. Now when we flush we strip out the surplus of nutrients in the soil. We don't strip out 100%, likely not even 50%, just some of the extra - stripping out more that 75% of the nutrients is really really hard. So your plants already have enough nutrients stored for the last two weeks and there is still enough in the soil even if they didn't already have it stored. So your healthy plants going into the last two weeks will most definitely not starve.
But hey, they will do this -
Translocation:
Now that the basics are explained, we can take a look at the translocation process. It should be already clear that only mobile elements can be translocated through the phloem. Immobile elements cant be translocated and are not more available to the plant for further metabolic processes and new plant growth.
Most of BrickTops info was dead on but I'm lost as to where he came up with his summary. I've never hear of someone flushing their plants to the point of killing off roots, stressing a plant, or causing any type of deficiency - I feel you would literally have to be pouring 4x the volume of water as soil through the plants every day for a week and I can't imagine anyone doing that. Have you ever seen anyone flush till they had deficiencies? I haven't.
So your plant notices that there is less available nutrients in the soil as before and it has only a few more weeks of life (remember this is an annual plant and will die at the end of the season regardless) so the plant is going to dedicate all the rest of its available energy and nutrient towards flower and seed production (this is the end all be all of plant goals). So the plant starts to translocate nutrients - this is good! You are getting rid of surplus material, material that does you no good to smoke.
Lets do a for instance - (this is all very simplified)
Plant A and plant B are the same and are each have a surplus of 100N 100P 100K
Both plants use 5N, 5P, and 5K each day to produce 15 units of calyx/THC
Both plants have been fed generously so the soil is quite saturated with nutrients. Plant A will recieve a full load of nutes till the last day, plant B gets a flush and no nutes till the last day.
Day 1:
Plant A: Starts with surplus of 100N 100P 100K || Uptakes 7N 7P 7K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 102N 102P 102K and 15Calyx/THC
Day 2:
Plant A: Starts with surplus of 102N 102P 102K || Uptakes 7N 7P 7K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 104N 104P 104K and 30Calyx/THC
Day 3:
Plant A: Starts with surplus of 104N 104P 104K || Uptakes 7N 7P 7K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 106N 106P 106K and 45Calyx/THC
Day 4:
Plant A: Starts with surplus of 106N 106P 106K || Uptakes 7N 7P 7K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 108N 108P 108K and 60Calyx/THC
Day 14:
Plant A: Starts with surplus of 126N 126P 126K || Uptakes 7N 7P 7K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 128N 128P 128K and 210Calyx/THC
This plant was flushed and no longer received additional nutrients
Day 1:
Plant B: Starts with surplus of 100N 100P 100K || Uptakes 5N 5P 5K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 100N 100P 100K and 15Calyx/THC
Day 2:
Plant B: Starts with surplus of 100N 100P 100K || Uptakes 4N 4P 4K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 99N 99P 99K and 30Calyx/THC
Day 3:
Plant B: Starts with surplus of 99N 99P 99K || Uptakes 3N 3P 3K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 97N 97P 97K and 45Calyx/THC
Day 4:
Plant B: Starts with surplus of 97N 97P 97K || Uptakes 2N 2P 2K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 94N 94P 94K and 60Calyx/THC
Day 14:
Plant B: Starts with surplus of 54N 54P 54K || Uptakes 1N 1P 1K || Uses 5N 5P 5K || Ends with surplus of 50N 50P 50K and 210Calyx/THC
So plant a is 210 calyx/THC which gets you high and an additional 128 units of N, P, and K which you will combust and inhale (but they don't do you anygood).
Or you can have plant B which is also 210 calyx/THC but less than half of the extra N, P, and K... Ratio wise plant B has a higher content of THC/Calyx to the other stuff. I personally would rather inhale less of the surplus material.
lol I was stoned and after I wrote that I realized what I said, but yea your right im wrong. I was thinking of something else when I said it wasn't seasonal. I was thinking of an annual (my bad stoned moment).
Seasonal and annual generally mean the same thing... Perennial is the alternative. Don't know why but I'm always stuttering on these as well.
For a good experiment since I shouldn't compare regular plants with MJ. I have an orange tree, and chili plants in my flower tent before I harvest those I will flush them and see if their is a difference.
Im betting I get the same results... No difference.
Aside from comparing trees to marijuana being simply laughable lets talk about variables. For comparisons you need to keep variables the same. Say you want to compare the orange tree and a MJ plant when it comes to super heavy fertilization and the effects on the fruiting body. A roughly 3 pound marijuana plant is often fed 1/3 of a bottle of three different chemical solutions during its short life. The standard weight of a bottle of nutrients is 2lbs which means a 3 lb plant would receive ~2lbs of bottled nutrients in lets say a 60 day flower. For every one pound of wet plant it received 0.025 bottles of fertilizer per day of flower.
Ok so if you want to keep variables the same you should feed your orange tree the same ratio of nutrients to its own weight over it's given flowering period. How much does it weigh? 1 ton? If 1 ton you would need to feed your orange plant 16.6 bottles of nutrient per day. I want to see this experiment. Feed your orange tree 16 bottles of bloom feed every day while it is flowering and tell me if the oranges taste different.
Shocking only the MJ industry flushes.
What other industries use the same ridiculously high amount of fertilizers to produce their crops? None... How many of these non existent industries produce a material you combust and then inhale? None...
..cheers
