The Irish Growers Thread!

[tontoboy]

chocabloc, good luck with your plans , if you do go ahead with them then please please please make sure to start setting some aside for bail and a lawyer.

good luck again

 

[ae86 grower]

chocabloc, good luck with your plans , if you do go ahead with them then please please please make sure to start setting some aside for bail and a lawyer.

good luck again

where you been hideing..


just pryed the lappy off herself, serious facebook addiction that girl..hahahaha..


going good here kang, hope that gets through tomorrow for you..

started to wire brush the roof after power hoseing the house in prep for paint and as hard as the washing was, i instantly regretted starting the wire brushing, lucky for me its not a big roof....

 

[ae86 grower]

I expect to be able to get 5 a plant at least. I have done my research into this and the average for a 600 watt seems to be 300 grams with a long veg time. This man last year sold 26 bags in one day. Hed prob be able to get rid of 10 os in a day no problem. How do you know they weight the plant? Because i mean the average plant prob weighs a kilo with soil and everything. That means anyone caught with one plant is absolutely fucked. I hope i dont come across as a tyre kicker or a greedy cunt. I have done a serious amount of research into this and i think its crazy how expensive weed is here. Ive been paying 450 -500 an ounce for last year and I wouldnt mind making a dent in that. Even if its only a small one

just reading over your last posts to get a better picture of what your after, and i`m just going to call it like i see it,

you have done a grow before, you had a partner that sold it all, this must have been a few oz`s.. what lights etc did you use for that grow?

now you have researched on here a couple of grows and i know it seems easy as its just pictures on the net, but slow down on the big stuff, (for now)...

you mentioned a 1000w grow, this is the top, very top end of personal growing, you`ll have an abundance of weed, and be like har, so much you can make hash, edibles, and have smoke, the heat unless underground, or well vented etc will be visible to flir, and yes they use it here, even if they didn`t you should be thinking like they do, when you think its stealthy enough ......its not....

we want to help , and you seem like a senceable dude so chill with the mad ideas, like talking to a solicitor, (you must be of young age ) and the grow shop guy, they will like said try to sell you the most expensive setup you can afford or as much cheap shit they can off load, by the way what grow shop.....

think thats it for now, stoned here and my minds wandering.....

 

[Harrekin]

• "Just outta interest where you gonna tell "your guy" all the weed is coming from? What you gonna do when he decides his cut isn't enough and you're making all the cheddar? What you gonna do if he tells someone when drunk and they decide they want your stash? Have you considered the need to defend yourself? Have you considered his risks of getting arrested and ratting you for reduced charges himself?"
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The fella in mind has been my friend and neighbour since i was about 4. I have already thought about this. Ill give him 4 o's at a time. That way if he does got caught he wont have too much on him and i know he will not rat. I am 100% confident of this. He will know im growing it and I know he will keep his mouth shut.

I havent come to a decision yet what to do with the money. I can live with not spending it on nice things. Electricity will be in my name and the landlord is not a issue. He never visits as he lives abroad.

I have seen many strains reach far excess of this. Obviously an indica as there heavy yielders. I have seen grows where people have gotten around 20 ounces from 1 plant vegged for 4 weeks in a dwc under a 600 hps. Have you heard of scrogging? .5 gram per watt is what any novice grower should aim for. Im vegging each plant for 2 months. Achieving 10 ounces is the least of my worries. Even if i only got 5 ounces I would be happy. The strength of a weed is due to genetics. It has absolutely nothing to do with how big its grown. Obviously correct flushing affects quality but size does not affect quality.

I do appreciate all yer answers even if they are not what I want to hear. My main issue with this is still how cannabis is valued. Im getting mixed reports. I have been told by the fella in the growshop that its 400 per plant regardless whereas I have heard here that they weigh the plant fully. Can anyone give me a definitve answer on the valuation.

I could vent into the attic or through a window. Surely this will deal with the heat for 4 600 watts.

Ok I don't mean to be a dick, but 10 ounces off 4 600w lights? Iv gotten 12/13 on a good run off a single 400w changed to a 600w midway through flower.

You can veg for 2 years btw, doesn't mean bigger yields, means more plant matter to potentially provide a bigger yield, but it's no guarantee by a long shot.

Your best chance is to grow a commercial strain, it seems all you're interested in is money and high yield, so why beat around the bush?

 

[ae86 grower]

hows your own comeing along har? must be getting musty in that tent by now....

 

[Harrekin]

hows your own comeing along har? must be getting musty in that tent by now....

Oh theyre coming along, the 400w tent a little behind the 600w but I expected that. I'll post something up when it's not just really hairy nodes

One of the Big Bud runts turned out to be a total freak, it's slightly larger than the rest and has the most bizarre structure Iv ever seen.

Im thinking of going hydro next time, I miss watering them sometimes due to commitments and missing the "on" cycle as a result, it'd be nice to know I can leave them a day or two before just checking pH etc. Im thinking of 2x Atami Wilma "Big 4" with Rockwool/Pebbles and theyd have a 600w for each.

Sure we'll see

 

[ae86 grower]

hydro is the way.. (smokeys grow for instance)....

been looking into homemade setups small and simple things really but theres some great ideas out there to make it a do-able thing, think i`ll invest in one of the cheap 600w setups in nirvana and get a backup ballast just in case, i`ll stay in the soil for the next grow still a ways off the hydro..

 

[deepwinter]

Also I will have no bags or scales on the premises. I had to stop growing with my previous partner because he wouldnt stop selling.

Just be carefull and don't underestimate the Electricity Bills, you'll need to have some Cash to fund the grow,
I got a shock when i looked at my bill on 1 600watt, i probably would have keeled over if it was 4 times that lol.

You could vent to the attic yes, thats probably the best way so you have no one source of heat coming from your house.
Its just more kit an inline fan for each tent etc, Cool tube probably needed as well,

So it sounds like you've thought it through, plus I'm no expert this is my first grow as well, but i do know that as much as you read there is always new things you learn when you start. but its usually manageable.

On the selling side, be care full i know his your friend but, if he was arrested and the cops are leaning on him you just never know if hell say something. Better if your seller doesn't know where you live imo.

Keep us updated i'd love to see the progress of the plants.

Best of luck with grow.

 

[deepwinter]

Can anyone recommend a good PH/EC meter something not crazy expensive preferably

 

[kegboyman]

My lowryder 2 has just started flowering, does anyone know how long lowryder 2s take to flower?

also choca, ive been reading your posts and ive a few things to say,

Firstly, can you deal with being paranoid 24/7 about police showing up at your door? What happens if the ESB or whoever notices the huge irregularity in your electricity bills?

Also what happens if you have visitors in the house the house and they notice the absolute stink of weed?

And lastly i have heard that the guards value each plant at 400 euro coz i know someone who was caught with 8 HUGE plants and a few young plants and the guards seriously underestimated the value of the big ones but overestimated the value of the small ones

 

[chocabloc]

My lowryder 2 has just started flowering, does anyone know how long lowryder 2s take to flower?

also choca, ive been reading your posts and ive a few things to say,

Firstly, can you deal with being paranoid 24/7 about police showing up at your door? What happens if the ESB or whoever notices the huge irregularity in your electricity bills?

Also what happens if you have visitors in the house the house and they notice the absolute stink of weed?

And lastly i have heard that the guards value each plant at 400 euro coz i know someone who was caught with 8 HUGE plants and a few young plants and the guards seriously underestimated the value of the big ones but overestimated the value of the small ones

Hey Kegboyman. Thank you. I was looking for definitive answer off someone who was caught or knows someone who has been caught. Do you know what lights he was using? How he was caught? What his sentence was? I imagine as long as i pay the bill I should be fine as it is all automated. I have been taking some of the posters advice on board and may start with a 600 watt and upgrade as I see fit. That way there wouldnt be massive rises in electricity cost immediately. I wont really be paranoid if i know that ill just get a suspended sentence. However if im looking at jail I would be paranoid. The fact that they value it at 400 a plant is good I just have to make sure not to have too much harvested product at once or they might cop on how much each plant can yield.

I have the cash to cover the electricity and 5 months rent if i need it. @ Harrekin. I meant 10 ounces per 600 watt. To be honest I do want to make money from it. If were growing 2 plants for us and the penalty is the same as growing 8 then why not grow the 8 and make extra money.

"just reading over your last posts to get a better picture of what your after, and i`m just going to call it like i see it,

you have done a grow before, you had a partner that sold it all, this must have been a few oz`s.. what lights etc did you use for that grow?

now you have researched on here a couple of grows and i know it seems easy as its just pictures on the net, but slow down on the big stuff, (for now)...

you mentioned a 1000w grow, this is the top, very top end of personal growing, you`ll have an abundance of weed, and be like har, so much you can make hash, edibles, and have smoke, the heat unless underground, or well vented etc will be visible to flir, and yes they use it here, even if they didn`t you should be thinking like they do, when you think its stealthy enough ......its not....

we want to help , and you seem like a senceable dude so chill with the mad ideas, like talking to a solicitor, (you must be of young age ) and the grow shop guy, they will like said try to sell you the most expensive setup you can afford or as much cheap shit they can off load, by the way what grow shop.....

think thats it for now, stoned here and my minds wandering"

I only had a 250watt in a dr 60. Got 4 ounces of it, Didnt sell any of it. my housemate/partner in crime was just selling weed he bought while waiting on the next crop which made me paranoid. Told his girlfriend and her mam knew about it so thats why ties were cut. He doesnt live here anymore so he wont know what im up to. I have literally spent a few hours a day for the last 5 or 6 months researching growing. It is literally the only thing i do on the internet(besides porn ) Sad I know The guy in the grow shop is a major weed activist in Ireland. Not gonna name names but I think he is a good guy. I think i remember him saying he knew someone who had a 2400 watt grow for years and was never caught so esb shouldnt be a problem. Im going into this planning that im going to be caught as I always think worst case scenario. I have been searching for past cases of cultivation on irish sentencing dot ie and theres an awful lot of suspended sentences for people caught with around 20 plants. I think I should be ok as long as they catch me just after harvesting. I must look into FLIR and see is there any thing i can do to protect against this. I doubt the guards have them but as ye said better to plan for it that not.

 

[kang420]

I have the cash to cover the electricity and 5 months rent if i need it. @ Harrekin. I meant 10 ounces per 600 watt. To be honest I do want to make money from it. If were growing 2 plants for us and the penalty is the same as growing 8 then why not grow the 8 and make extra money.

If two guys are caught in a house with two plants for your own use you may not even hear anything about it again as ive heard many a story of garda taking one and two plants and nothing ever happened about it, but if your caught with 8 plants with big lights they are not going to let you off, its true for 8 plants i dont think you would do jail if its your first offense

 

[ae86 grower]

sentenceing is down to the individual judge and the copper in the dock, belive me if the cop gives the judge the nod, your on your way to cloverhill....

theres no written guideline for garda on this choc, where have you been reasearching... you know that the esb is automated, do you know theres an algarythem that sends a red flag for hugh jump up in useage!!! the cops have a spotter plane with flir for sweeping big areas then the chopper comes in and singles out the heat source. They can be pin point with the bitch too.....

i know loads that were caught, theres a guy here and i`ve posted this before was caught and made the 6.1 news, he`s walking around cause he "co-operated" with the cops, another was caught with 20 plants ...hes in midlands now for a 2 year strech, another bould fucker was caught and cause he had the wrong second name he got 6 months a plant, and he was caught with 2 tiny things and a few bulbs, no fans or exhausts or anything...


i can telll by the way your talking you have no record, prob never been in a cell before or back of a cop car.... its only when there looking at you trough the cell door heckleing you that you really start thinking about how fucked yur going to be, trust me mate from someone that was there ....DON`T UNDERESTIMATE THE COPS...

just cause they haven`t looked at you yet , they will come eventually, a big bust is what everyone of them want,

oh and again the vent into the attic with one 600w....fine but with like 4 of them no way....

again i don`t want to sound like i`m haveing a go at you its just serious business "this thing of ours".....

 

[ae86 grower]

If two guys are caught in a house with two plants for your own use you may not even hear anything about it again as ive heard many a story of garda taking one and two plants and nothing ever happened about it, but if your caught with 8 plants with big lights they are not going to let you off, its true for 8 plants i dont think you would do jail if its your first offense

morning kang, hows the hand these days, i was supose to be back down the hos this morning, said fuck it i`ll go tonight, and i`m bringing the internets with me, in case theres another ould fucker that won`t change the channel beside me again..hahahaha..

 

[kang420]

morning kang, hows the hand these days, i was supose to be back down the hos this morning, said fuck it i`ll go tonight, and i`m bringing the internets with me, in case theres another ould fucker that won`t change the channel beside me again..hahahaha..

Maybe theres a nurse or two that might be better viewing than the tv ae! theres a scar across my knuckle (not that i care) but i am now able to bend it fully and make a fist once again so i am able to protect myself again! not that my left was decent anyway haha

My mate just text to say he has a suspect package landed in the post so he will be with me in an hour to investigate! cheers mate

 

[ae86 grower]

fingers crossed, hate a dry spell myself....

good news on the hand tho, like to go to the bone its healed fairly qiuck... and as for throwing the left, well as long as the fingers roll the papers then your grand....hahahaah

 

[kang420]

fingers crossed, hate a dry spell myself....

good news on the hand tho, like to go to the bone its healed fairly qiuck... and as for throwing the left, well as long as the fingers roll the papers then your grand....hahahaah

Ill be rolling very soon i hope lol there wasent even swelling in the finger even tho the knuckle was missing and the bone exposed and that was because of the afghan kush x black domina i was smoking, it really was better than pills i dident even feel any pain at all during the healing but i had smoked 45 grams in less than two weeks! hehe

whoever asked about the lowryder2 i grew one for my first ever grow great plant! its an auto and take about 65-70 days from seed, how old is the plant cause they can start to flower after 2-3 weeks from seed

 

[kegboyman]

He was caught because he had just moved into the house and the ESB noticed the large jump in bills from the previous owners and when the guards came knocking it was too late for him to do anything about it, he had no scales or bags or anything and he managed to convince the jugde it was personal use... he was very lucky and got away with a years suspended sentence and some community hours i think but im not sure, but bear in mind he got a criminal record so that would rule out any hope of you ever going to oz or the USA .... He was using 1200W of HPS and there was some HID bulbs aswell as fans etc so id imagine there was quite a large jump in ESB bills.

Im sure your going to go ahead with it all anyway so if i was you in order to shift ounces at a time id lower the prices of your ounces and you wont be able to hold onto them for long with the demand

 

[Smokeydog]

Hey man,how many grow,s you have done in the dr60, have you done the LBH 4 way LST urself,

Thanks for all the advice. I only reply to one person at a time as i dont know how to multi quote. Im gonna go to visit the grow shop guy and see his perspective on it and maybe talk to a lawyer for a definite answer. You think theyd be able to give it?

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• so chocabloc you and your mate both smoke 3 oz's per month each? 3000 euro a month, if thats the case the best advise i can give you is get a better job that will fund your serious habit or take a break and re-access your smoking and cut down cause you both are paying for a drug dealers house​
  
  

I already sell to fund my habit. Which is what im trying to stop as its just too risky. I dont mind having a cultivation charge but i dont want a sale and supply charge hence me here looking for advice. However im not going down the route of getting a key.

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• believe it or not its people like you that is preventing cannabis being legal, if every smoker grew his own plant and not 50 of them theres nothing anyone could do about it but when cops find a house full thats been grown for profit they have full support of the zombie public and the war continues"
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So its not people like me who are preventing it being legal. Its the fact that every smoker doesnt grow his own plant. Either way people are still gonna buy the weed. Someones gonna grow the weed and make money off it. Could either be me, a limerick drug gang or some poor Vietnamese bastards. The only way for legalisation through non political means is to over grow the government. Thats not gonna happen anytime soon.

• i hope you hear where i`m comeing from as were small growers here, we choose to be... were capable of growing trees of weed, and growing commercial quantitys but we choose a little quality smoke for our own consumtion, rather than commercial weights of stock weed....​
  
  

Loud and clear. Im planning on growing serious smoke too. Just because theres lots of it doesnt reduce the quality . Unless of course its cured

At the end of the day I am just a quiet nerdy stoner who wants to grow weed. But if im taking the risk of growing it, I would like to be able to grow as much as I can without the penalties rising. Whether im caught with one plant or ten as far as i know its pretty much the same sentencing. Which is why I think its pointless to grow only one or two.

BTW ae86 google LBH 4 way LST. Its a much better way to Lst than the spiral one around the pot thats in your avatar.

Peace

 

[Smokeydog]

How,s all the lad,s,
welcome back 86 hope your back to normal man. i chopped a branch off 1 of the skunk last friday dried her in the attic but it dried it 3 days,bit to quick reckon, have it in a jar but its nearly gone now as i aint buyng anymore, good stone but shit taste, so im chopping the 2 of them tonight and live off sugar leaves for a while and try cure it for as long as i can, my aim is to give at least half it 30 days cure, 1 of the easy,s is sick aswel,the 1 that started flowering first, its on the same tray as the other so getting the very same stuff and the other is nice and green except for a bit of light burn,i reckon 2 oz per plant is very possible as the bud are fairly big and plenty of them,there drinking bout 8 to 10 litres every 2 days.hope she dont go pear shaped now at this stage,only bout 2 weeks left on the 1 with the def, and she wont be gettin a flush (HAR) as the other 1 on the same tray is bigger and wont be ready for about 4 weeks but that 1 wil so it wil be my own little flushing experiment
il get some pics later for the lads to give me there expert opinions.