deprave
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its worth collapsing your whole argument that we will have 50% unemployment if Ron paul is elected. a ridiculous argument, like I said, your whole argument is one big conspiracy theory.
The Truth About Ron Paul
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The goal is modernizing the financial services industry, the method is deregulation. Read carefully young padawan.
Dan Kone
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So you don't think there was anything deceptive about bundling subprime mortgages, many that were very likely to fail and then selling them for a financial gain? Interesting point of view....
While that wasn't criminal, in every other way it fits the description of fraud.
sync0s
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Electricity, hmm, private corporations further enticed by government monopolizing regulations
Safe water, you really want me to pull all of the articles about city water supplies being tainted? What if I used well water? Did you recently sneak into my house, that's creepy.
My grandma would do just great with out SS or medicaid.
Thank the government for the internet? Like it wouldn't exist without the government. Your fucking bonkers man
We have a civil court system for car accidents. I have a right to sue.
Only real benefits I get that you can argue are the benefits provided by the constitution, and those are absolutely in jeopardy lately
sync0s
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Who said that?
Dan Kone
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Yes, that is what he said. He was clearly advocating support for repealing Glass-Steagall. If you can't see that, it's only because you don't want to admit you're wrong.
Dan Kone
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ok. If that's not what you were trying to say then maybe I misinterpreted your post. Where was I "stretching just as much as he is"?
Right, don't take him for his word, instead infer some "other" meaning to his words. That argument won't hold water at all.
sync0s
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All just a misunderstanding. Moving on...
wtf... I know I didn't click to quote this post of yours, I never even saw it... haha
sync0s
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People need to stop with the whole terrorist blasphemy anyways. It's only lowering the intelligence of this nation and perpetuating bigotry.
Dan Kone
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If I did so it was not my intent. Perhaps I either worded a post wrong or you misunderstood, but that is not at all what I meant to imply.
Agreed. It's been difficult to keep track of arguing similar things with/against 5-6 at once especially with it sprawled over several threads.
deprave
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I have no problem if you dont support Ron Paul but its the conspiracy theories that make people say "open your eyes" etc....and also just piss me off, so this is why I made this thread, Theories that Ron Paul will somehow cause some sort of major catastrophe. Dan you have valid reasons for not liking Ron Paul as you did explain and they are perfectly fine. You presented a good argument but you got off track quite a bit into conspiracy theory territory, oddly enough the very thing you seem to despise? (conspiracy theorist and theories)
Really your just as Bad as the "Ron-Paul-A-Holics" that you dislike so much, your guilty of the same things that you complain of... Irony!
EDIT: I'm just surprised you haven't told me to "open my eyes" or "wake up" ...
Really your just as Bad as the "Ron-Paul-A-Holics" that you dislike so much, your guilty of the same things that you complain of... Irony!
EDIT: I'm just surprised you haven't told me to "open my eyes" or "wake up" ...
sync0s
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Damn.. you started the thread? I had no idea... this has gone on wayyyy to long lol
Dan Kone
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What conspiracy theory?
sync0s
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Right... I'm as confused as you are. Seems this debate has kind of slowed down... oh well at least it didn't end in a bunch of "Fuck Offs" like it did in the other thread... lol
Dan Kone
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That's the result of free trade historically. You can add outsourcing to that as well. It's not a conspiracy, it's the effects of the policies he supports. When you have free trade, why would a company pay an American to do something that a 10 year old in East Asia will do for $1 a day?
When American laborors have to compete for jobs with 10 yr old asian kids, it lowers the demand for American middle class workers, lowering worker wages across the board while increasing profits for the ultra wealthy.
That's what free trade is. The freedom for the wealthy to make profits at the expense of the American middle class.
I'm not sure how you think listing the historical results of a policy he supports is a conspiracy theory. Who's conspiring?
You my friend need to listen to Ron Paul less and Noam Chomsky more.
I don't believe Ron Paul threatens our national security. I believe he would make us more safe by not bombing as many muslims. My theory is people are less likely to fly airplanes into our buildings if we don't bomb their towns killing their families and meddle in their governments.
There is a question of that, no proof either way. His news letter has said some racist things, some of them claim to be Ron Paul quotes. I know he's denied them and you believe him, but in the past before he started running for president, he's also admitted to them and attempted to justify them.
http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1996_1343749/campaign-96-u-s-house-newsletter-excerpts-offer-am.html
Other things from that newsletter written at the same time do appear to be written by Ron Paul.
"Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! " - Ron Paul's newsletter.
While that technically isn't racist, that's not the point. The point is that at unless the person writing that newsletter was another congressmen who also voted against MLK day, Ron Paul was writing that newsletter. If you combined that with him not denying he wrote that newsletter and in fact defending what was written until he started running for president, it's very suspicious.
I don't think you can call that a conspiracy to believe it's possible that Ron Paul is a racist. It wouldn't be the first time a racist has denied he was a racist in order to run for president. David Duke even took a picture with a black kid to run for president. Hard to believe he isn't a racist.
You can say maybe all the facts aren't in. But the real conspiracy would be if Ron Paul is now telling the truth and had nothing to do with that newsletter when some of what is written is written as a congressmen in the first person and then the Houston Chronicle outright lied when they wrote an article quoting Ron Paul defending the racist comments.
Now that would be a conspiracy!
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