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BostonBuds

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So far what I have found is that if you want bigger buds you wait. You can snip off every sprout below the tops before you flip, or gradually until then so there is zero larf. But if you flip immediately the root/stem/leaf food delivery system is just not there yet for big buds. At least, not as big as they would be with a few more weeks to get established.
This is where I have no experience, I havent finished a plant yet so I dont really know what I should be trimming off and what I should be letting grow. I have one flowering right now and i'm thinking I should of trimmed off some lower branches.
 

H.A.F.

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This is where I have no experience, I havent finished a plant yet so I dont really know what I should be trimming off and what I should be letting grow. I have one flowering right now and i'm thinking I should of trimmed off some lower branches.
It took me 3 tries to get a grow to completion :)
Watch how it grows when you get one there (or close) and watch what get's big, what doesn't. Not just buds , but stems. Look at where they come off the plant and how that effects them.
For the most part, the first 2 nodes that pop shoots out are losers. You don't have to snip them early, but they will almost always be smaller than the next node's sprouts/limbs.
If you are doing a scrog, every shoot is going to get light and make a decent flower, but it is still going to be random sizes based on where it came off each individual stem.
Pruning the lower stuff off a little at a time as it grows is usually safe. On each shoot/limb that you want to keep and turn into a big bud, just keep 3-4 nodes growing on the top to feed the plant. All the growth is going to center on those areas. The fewer there are, the bigger the stems and flowers.
Once you flip and see pistils, you can see better what will produce and what won't. You can also see what grows after the flip (about the first month) and keep getting rid of lower stuff on each stem that will be smaller, but eat stuff the top would have eaten.

It really doesn't matter as much in veg, as long as you don't take too much and keep in mind what you want for a finished product (what shoots to keep, where to top, LST, etc.) it will keep growing.
In flower I leave as many fan leaves as possible, because there won't be many more. I get real selective, and they usually have to be shading something for me to prune them. Big lower fan leaves are also a good barometer for the health of the plant. They will show most issues first before it hits the rest of the plant.

Hope this helps. This is just how I do it and why. Many other methods and reasons. Waiting to hear other's replies.
 

BostonBuds

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It took me 3 tries to get a grow to completion :)
Watch how it grows when you get one there (or close) and watch what get's big, what doesn't. Not just buds , but stems. Look at where they come off the plant and how that effects them.
For the most part, the first 2 nodes that pop shoots out are losers. You don't have to snip them early, but they will almost always be smaller than the next node's sprouts/limbs.
If you are doing a scrog, every shoot is going to get light and make a decent flower, but it is still going to be random sizes based on where it came off each individual stem.
Pruning the lower stuff off a little at a time as it grows is usually safe. On each shoot/limb that you want to keep and turn into a big bud, just keep 3-4 nodes growing on the top to feed the plant. All the growth is going to center on those areas. The fewer there are, the bigger the stems and flowers.
Once you flip and see pistils, you can see better what will produce and what won't. You can also see what grows after the flip (about the first month) and keep getting rid of lower stuff on each stem that will be smaller, but eat stuff the top would have eaten.

It really doesn't matter as much in veg, as long as you don't take too much and keep in mind what you want for a finished product (what shoots to keep, where to top, LST, etc.) it will keep growing.
In flower I leave as many fan leaves as possible, because there won't be many more. I get real selective, and they usually have to be shading something for me to prune them. Big lower fan leaves are also a good barometer for the health of the plant. They will show most issues first before it hits the rest of the plant.

Hope this helps. This is just how I do it and why. Many other methods and reasons. Waiting to hear other's replies.
Here's what it looks like now. The only thing I've done to it is remove a few fan leaves and and bottom 2 branches. I'm not sure if I should of trimmed more, guess i'll find out come harvest.
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H.A.F.

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Here's what it looks like now. The only thing I've done to it is remove a few fan leaves and and bottom 2 branches. I'm not sure if I should of trimmed more, guess i'll find out come harvest.
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Here is what I was talking about. I just marked a few that I would have cut. But earlier. I wouldn't mess with it now.
Pretend you didn't snip the bottom two, and this is what I meant. The bottoms go like you did, but then the "off-shoots" on the keepers I snip too. until I get close to flip.
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Mysturis420

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And even if it doesn't smoke the same invest in some bubble bags all my larf gets made right into hash I was sad that my last plant had hardly any larf cuz I love hash but couldnt make myself hash out my beautiful plant
 

H.A.F.

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And even if it doesn't smoke the same invest in some bubble bags all my larf gets made right into hash I was sad that my last plant had hardly any larf cuz I love hash but couldnt make myself hash out my beautiful plant
If we get to that point on here I'll show you dry sift. :) I have the bubble bags too, but I prefer the fluffy keif (at least initially) More options of what you can do with it.

But the stuff on the bottom and top of the same plant will usually be pretty damn close ;)
 

Mysturis420

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If we get to that point on here I'll show you dry sift. :) I have the bubble bags too, but I prefer the fluffy keif (at least initially) More options of what you can do with it.

But the stuff on the bottom and top of the same plant will usually be pretty damn close ;)
I also will be showing the final bit of makeing hash and rosin since that's what I do with ever batch I always end up with flower bubble and rosin in the end next I want to get a closed loop system and make some crumble oh and I make edis
 

Kushash

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I also will be showing the final bit of makeing hash and rosin since that's what I do with ever batch I always end up with flower bubble and rosin in the end next I want to get a closed loop system and make some crumble oh and I make edis
Cool!
I like all the different shares.
So much to learn.
I look forward to watching @Budzbuddha if he will be doing some reversing.
Among other things I plan on taking a tray of worm castings from my worm factory 360 and documenting it.
 

H.A.F.

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"Over the time of the grow, you must explain at least once your setup to include lighting, nutrients used, media, and technique. This is a requirement."

How's this?
#125 thinks its a good idea just to be sure. :)
My equipment:
Soil
⦁ Fox Farms Happy Frog and Fox Farms Lucky Dog 50/50 mix in 2 gal pots
Lighting:
⦁ HLG 260v2 XW in veg room
⦁ HLG 135v2 x 2 in flower room
⦁ HLG 65v2 (non-dimmable) in seed/clone tent
Ventillation
⦁ AC-Infinity Cloudline T6 in flower and veg
⦁ P.O.S. vivosun 4" fan in tent
⦁ small (USB) desktop oscillating fans.

I already hit the nute experiment I'm doing with a different one for each of 4 plants, no topping or major LST.
 
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