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Opie1971

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I think the bolded above is your issue. Promix is great for mineral-derived foods and big blooms is maybe a good supplement for growers in organic soils but the combo of promix and big blooms is sort of straddling both worlds and is clearly not working. If you love Fox farms go with their Grow Big from start to finish in promix.
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Sorry guys, I should have said Grow Big instead of Big Bloom, not sure what I was thinking. Lol. Sorry HB.
 

Kushash

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Yes less light. Ph is 6.5. Soil.
I also use less light to hold plants back for the same reason. I leave them in smaller 1 gallon pots and don't worry about them getting root bound. When I move them to a bigger pot I slice and loosen the roots.

I never used Pro Mix as a soil so IDK. You probably know I'm not a fan of soil grows using synthetic ferts. You have microbes in that soil that haven't been fed and are probably on strike.

Maybe the additional info will help the others.
You didn't say how much and how often you feed.
I'm assuming you mean you adjust PH to 6.5 after adding the ff fert. What do you use for PH up or PH down?
 

Kushash

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I just remembered that everything about this grow was new to me. Strains showed up from @socaljoe the day before the comp started. My half assed attempt at living soil. My experimental DIY sip system (hey what happened to @whatsasip haven't seen him in a while). And the light showed up the day I flipped to 12/12. The scrog I have always done. I'm trying to start Operation: Highest Yield on my site with a few members from RIU in a collaborative effort to search for and show the techniques and methods a few growers use in a search for their max yield.
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Opie1971

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I also use less light to hold plants back for the same reason. I leave them in smaller 1 gallon pots and don't worry about them getting root bound. When I move them to a bigger pot I slice and loosen the roots.

I never used Pro Mix as a soil so IDK. You probably know I'm not a fan of soil grows using synthetic ferts. You have microbes in that soil that haven't been fed and are probably on strike.

Maybe the additional info will help the others.
You didn't say how much and how often you feed.
I'm assuming you mean you adjust PH to 6.5 after adding the ff fert. What do you use for PH up or PH down?
I fed them about every third time they need water, and at about half the recommendation. Ph down.
 

J.James

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I fed them about every third time they need water, and at about half the recommendation. Ph down.
The plants leaves will lighten in color because of the low light, they do this to try to absorb as much light as they can. The twisted leaves may just be stress, Also from the low light. Try slowly increasing the light intensity until she starts to pray. Promix is a very basic medium, Not a lot of amendments from the start, With that in mind, I would feed less but more often. Try 1/8th Strength recommended dose of the Grow big and Big Bloom every other feeding and see how she responds after a week or so. The Big Bloom is where all your micronutrients are in that lineup, So I would recommend it from start to finish.

Edit - I'm wrong about Big Bloom Containing the micronutrients, But I would still add it to your feedings, It will feed the soil microbes among other things. (Sorry been awhile since I've used the fox farm line)
 
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Madriffer

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Just trying to get an idea of my tolerance levels how much do you guys smoke a week me and my wife together smoke 1and 1/2 to 2 ozs a week that doesn't include hash or rosin just weed
When we were buying it was a 1/2
Zip a week. Now a bit over a zip a week plus wax. Mrs Riffer was a light flower smoker, now she likes the wax. I'm a joint blunt burning at all times guy. If I quit drinking it would be double.
 

Mysturis420

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When we were buying it was a 1/2
Zip a week. Now a bit over a zip a week plus wax. Mrs Riffer was a light flower smoker, now she likes the wax. I'm a joint blunt burning at all times guy. If I quit drinking it would be double.
I smoke only no drinking here and we are both bong/rig people we pretty much only smoke bongs unless were laying in bed but even then sometimes we use the bong I I prob smoke maybe 2 bowls a month from a pipe lol
 

Madriffer

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I smoke only no drinking here and we are both bong/rig people we pretty much only smoke bongs unless were laying in bed but even then sometimes we use the bong I I prob smoke maybe 2 bowls a month from a pipe lol
Bongs hurt me. Lungs just can't take it.
The best flavors are from a joint IMO.
Once it's lit, no flame to burn anything.
 

Opie1971

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1g ProMix. Girl Scout Cookies Forum Cut clone.
Temps: 76 to 84
Humidity: 50 to 65%
Been feeding Fox Farms Big Bloom when it gets fed, I’ve been trying to hold this one and a few others back from growing very fast right now, due to lack of flowering space.
I don’t know that it matters, but I told you guys wrong, this is a Chem 4 clone, not a GSC. I got them mixed up, I just noticed it when I transplanted it into a 3g airpot.
 

H.A.F.

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I think the bolded above is your issue. Promix is great for mineral-derived foods and big blooms is maybe a good supplement for growers in organic soils but the combo of promix and big blooms is sort of straddling both worlds and is clearly not working. If you love Fox farms go with their Grow Big from start to finish in promix.
I like the Fox Farms just because it's what I'm used to - not going to try and sell stuff here. But I did investigate into the stuff and discuss it on here, and I agree with the organic soil part. After seeing @Big Perm 's video on the "Fruit & Flower" top dressing I got a bag.

Long story short, about $10 for a 4lb bag at the hydro store so I got the 5-part set and am trying the organic thing. Their "Happy Frog" feeding schedule. Anyway, of the original trio it calls for the use of Big Bloom (the organic one of the trio) and a few other microbe-specific things they have (Microbe-brew, Flower Kiss) and a few other things like Bembe (their cane-sugar based sweetener) which I saw tagged somewhere as "microbe-food".

@Opie1971 - The Grow Big and Tiger Bloom aren't organic, and would probably both work with the promix. If you have them the "crystals" (cha ching and whatnot) would probably also work. I just wouldn't waste $$ on the ones that seem to be microbe specific.
 

H.A.F.

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I was looking to get another HLG -65 to even out my little seedling tent, but you seem to be up and running now and I can dig a military discount the same as the next guy ;)

Which of the small Illuminar would you say is about the same output? Or actually, which would be best for half of a 18" x 36" tent? It's primarily for seedlings, but I want it to be able to keep them happy if I have to veg for a few extra weeks waiting on a room to open. I think I remember you also using HLG?
 

Big Perm

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I was looking to get another HLG -65 to even out my little seedling tent, but you seem to be up and running now and I can dig a military discount the same as the next guy ;)

Which of the small Illuminar would you say is about the same output? Or actually, which would be best for half of a 18" x 36" tent? It's primarily for seedlings, but I want it to be able to keep them happy if I have to veg for a few extra weeks waiting on a room to open. I think I remember you also using HLG?
ILuminar really doesn't have much small stuff. The smallest thing they have is the i3 models, so iL3 iLi3, etc. I'd like to sell HLG too, but haven't heard back after email, phone, text, and pm, so I guess it's a no.
Amare is going up on the site soon, I have their whole line, too.
Honestly, the best clone and seedling stuff I have is HGL. Just from a wattage perspective even. 35w and 70w panels are the micro models.
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