Things to Know About Lighting

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born2killspam

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If ppl want me to when I'm in the mood I could draw up a schematic for a device that goes between your normal timer, and the outlet that would cut power off before it even gets to your timer for 5-10 minutes after a power restart, then kick out of pause mode and allow power as normal when the desired cool down time elapsed..
Depending on simplicity desired, I could just have it do the exact same thing each and every time it regains power, or give it a battery and a counter so it comes on immediately if the power has been down long enough that warm restriking isn't an issue..
I also think you can pay some extra money for bulbs designed for instant restrike, but that may be with MH only.. I've never been too concerned myself, but I don't live there..
 
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southern homegrower

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born2killspam said:
If ppl want me to when I'm in the mood I could draw up a schematic for a device that goes between your normal timer, and the outlet that would cut power off before it even gets to your timer for 5-10 minutes after a power restart, then kick out of pause mode and allow power as normal when the desired cool down time elapsed..
Depending on simplicity desired, I could just have it do the exact same thing each and every time it regains power, or give it a battery and a counter so it comes on immediately if the power has been down long enough that warm restriking isn't an issue..
I also think you can pay some extra money for bulbs designed for instant restrike, but that may be with MH only.. I've never been too concerned myself, but I don't live there..
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thanks for the help but i dont think i could build it. i thought there was somthing i could buy to stop it from hapening.
 
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born2killspam

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I spoke too soon.. Like I said, its never been an issue for me, but I knew instant restrike options were out there.. Wasn't sure if it applied to hps due to the tube length would obviously create a serious temperature gradient, but I was wrong..
The trick is in the ignitor.. You could replace your ignitors in your ballasts with instant restrike ignitors that provide more pulses to kick it into action at any temperature..
Your ballasts should be labelled somewhere with their ANSI codes.. You might need to know that to get the proper one..
 
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ok.i had this setup but it got stole with the rest of my gow,but i was just a lil fraid to run it 24/0.how safe is this setup to do that cause i got another one coming
 

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the.grindin.grinder

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if u were to have 10 1000 watt lights and a room 24 x 24 and all the other good stuff... how can u maximize the amount of pounds grown? how much plants will be ideal to grow the most amount of pounds of white widow and sour diesal (or how much plants per light)? whats the best spacing for growing in this room? how much pounds would u be expecting? don't worry about the lighting cost or being bait* that will be tricked. and please add any tips or secrets u may have for maximization of plants growth
 
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purpdaddy

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the.grindin.grinder said:
if u were to have 10 1000 watt lights and a room 24 x 24 and all the other good stuff... how can u maximize the amount of pounds grown? how much plants will be ideal to grow the most amount of pounds of white widow and sour diesal (or how much plants per light)? whats the best spacing for growing in this room? how much pounds would u be expecting? don't worry about the lighting cost or being bait* that will be tricked. and please add any tips or secrets u may have for maximization of plants growth
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Co2 will make a big difference.YOu can make ur own or just get the buckets,that will increase ur yield.
 
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the.grindin.grinder

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rite now i figure per light there would be a area covered of 6 x 6 and 15-25 plants per light (which is better if it even makes sence?) which would make 9 6 x 6 and then save a light (and maybe add an extra light) for the 18 on 6 off room for germation, clones mothers seedlings and etc. this should total a 135-225 plants... how much pounds is that? and does this makes sense? any suggestions would be good
 
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born2killspam

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Thats only 16W/sqft.. But you are talking 596sqft!.. Light movers are key to setups like those.. Considering whats on the line with a go that big, I'd be pulling out my calculus texts to engineer the numbers.. You'd be well advised to section an area like that off into veg/flower chambers obviously.. It would make it more feasible to adequately light a slightly smaller flowering area, and you'll need a fair amount of vegging space to accomodate your new fulltime job..
As for CO2.. Not unless you have atleast 50W/sqft.. Its pointless and would waste ALOT of money to keep that area at 1500ppm..
Problem is, 11, 000kWh/month is kind of tough to justify..
 
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the.grindin.grinder

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ya 2 chambers is ideal... have the 9 lights in the 24x24 floor plan and put the other light in the germenation and veggin from and add a next one if anything. born2killspam or anyone what do u think is the best formation for 24x24 room with 9 lights (1000 watt) or would it be best to split it into 2 homes?
 
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purpdaddy

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born2killspam said:
Thats only 16W/sqft.. But you are talking 596sqft!.. Light movers are key to setups like those.. Considering whats on the line with a go that big, I'd be pulling out my calculus texts to engineer the numbers.. You'd be well advised to section an area like that off into veg/flower chambers obviously.. It would make it more feasible to adequately light a slightly smaller flowering area, and you'll need a fair amount of vegging space to accomodate your new fulltime job..
As for CO2.. Not unless you have atleast 50W/sqft.. Its pointless and would waste ALOT of money to keep that area at 1500ppm..
Problem is, 11, 000kWh/month is kind of tough to justify..
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Yea just the right amount of lightmovers would be better and distribute light more evenly.And will save u sum money

Spam.did u see my post about the hid setup? about runnin 24/0?please read and lemme know what you think..shits just been botherin me and i aint tryin to burn shit down!! oh im growin in a nice size ROOM. so heat not a real issue.im just wonderin if they get too hot to run 24/0
 
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born2killspam

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I can only assume so.. Alot of ppl run digital ballasts 24/0.. A fan on any electronics that seem to get warmer than you like can never hurt.. But unless that thing is really built ghetto inside with way underrated parts, it should do what it says it does fine.. Personally I wouldn't want to use it 24/0, but thats because I subscribe to the school of thought that plants should get atleast 4hrs sleep/day..:)
 
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purpdaddy

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born2killspam said:
I can only assume so.. Alot of ppl run digital ballasts 24/0.. A fan on any electronics that seem to get warmer than you like can never hurt.. But unless that thing is really built ghetto inside with way underrated parts, it should do what it says it does fine.. Personally I wouldn't want to use it 24/0, but thats because I subscribe to the school of thought that plants should get atleast 4hrs sleep/day..:)
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i agree to that.Just like in nature,they need a lil rest,but im experiminting with 24/0 or i might go 19/4..yea that sounds better!Thanks man!
 
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born2killspam

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I did a side, by side when I moved my vegging area over and was left with an empty closet.. I really didn't see any difference after 12 days between identical NL5 clones lit at 24/0, and 20/4.. That being the case, power seems savable unless you prefer the freedom of 24/7 easy access to your vegging area..
Sadly When I moved that little experiment to flower I didn't think to keep track.. It wasn't the most uniform crop since it was an early one for me, but on the other hand as I remember it, plants simply yeilded an expected proportion given their positions in the jungle..
Ended up with about 60g/sqft mix of nice bud, and really good bud with not so much bag appeal.. And I did surpass 1g/Watt bone dry..:)
 
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ThaBigBinkk

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Suuuuuscriibed. i think this is my biggest problem, understanding the whole light ordeal. considering i do not have the money for an HPS or MH system i was wondering.. Would having *6 CFLs, (3 - 26/watt @ 2700k & 3 - 26/watt @ 5600k) together shouldnt that be enough to cover all aspects of the spectrum in a 3' x 3' x 2' area? I'm obviously planning on keeping the plants small and only plan on vegging for the first week or so then jumping straight into a 12on/12off cycle and at which point i am going to remove the 3 - 26/watt Cfls rated at 5600k and replace them with matching 3 - 26/watt CFLs @ 2700k throughout flowering.. Good Idea/Bad Idea? Any input?
 
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