This product safe for use in an extraction?

nicktater · Jan 16, 2014

http://www.rbnainfo.com/productpro/ProductSearch.do?brandId=15&productLineId=282&searchType=PL&template=1

Is this product safe to use in an a/b extraction?
I will be using vinegar as the acid, easy-off as the base, for its sodium hydroxide, and toluene as the non-polar solvant.

Also, is doing this extraction on a plant, that i beleive to have no regulations, legal? I will be doing some research on kratom extracts (considering i cant find much info on this). Would ordering from ebay be safe? Just say its for a kratom extract? I am also growing marijuana, would my house be searched for any reason if found ordering sodium hydroxide? I know i have seen many other posts about this subject, making it seem fine, i just dont want an investigation to find something else (the 2 marijuana plants).

Also growing 1 Poppy and 20 cacti (san pedro, and Peruvian torch.)

MrEDuck · Jan 16, 2014

I wouldn't use it. If you can't get NaOH get pickling lime which is generally basic enough for extracting alkaloids.

nicktater · Jan 16, 2014

Alright great. I can get NaOH im just being impatient, had that in the house. Trying to go from a ph of 3 to 13, although I have been told 13 is pretty alkaline for this, though there is little to no info on a good tek. No one wants to share. Thanks for your response.

NorthofEngland · Jan 16, 2014

nicktater said:
Alright great. I can get NaOH im just being impatient, had that in the house. Trying to go from a ph of 3 to 13, although I have been told 13 is pretty alkaline for this, though there is little to no info on a good tek. No one wants to share. Thanks for your response.

Too late to start feeling relieved.
You announced your 2 plants, 1 poppy and 20 cacti to the world
Now you're being monitored by satellites....

But seriously,
What could you do with ONE POPPY?

LIBERTYCHICKEN · Jan 17, 2014

If you are doing a extraction on -- yppop--

you will likely want a calcium based base as well as another

google it

MrEDuck · Jan 17, 2014

^Only if you want to selectively extract the morphine

nicktater · Jan 19, 2014

You can learn a lot from one poppy. and I am not extracting anything from the poppy. just plan to smoke. If I get any yield that is.
Hundreds of people post things on here, I'm not worried about an investigation over posting some thing on here. For all you know, it could be bull shit.

canndo · Jan 19, 2014

nicktater said:
You can learn a lot from one poppy. and I am not extracting anything from the poppy. just plan to smoke. If I get any yield that is.
Hundreds of people post things on here, I'm not worried about an investigation over posting some thing on here. For all you know, it could be bull shit.

the ratio is far too low, smoking poppy straw is nasty and unproductive.

canndo · Jan 19, 2014

MrEDuck said:
^Only if you want to selectively extract the morphine

from straw? Tough going there

MrEDuck · Jan 20, 2014

I meant from opium latex but with one poppy he's not going to have enough to bother with.

nicktater · Jan 20, 2014

First time growing it, really didn't expect it to live this long indoors. just a good learning experience. If I do happen to get a pod I plan to score it, won't be upset if I get nothing. thanks so much for your knowledge and input everyone.

nicktater · Jan 20, 2014

Would anyone know if the extraction on a legal plant and legal alkaloids be legal? The kratom is unregulated, I just don't know if there may be laws on certain uses for chemicals? Ie can I use NaOH for extraction of legal alkaloids?

MrEDuck · Jan 20, 2014

My guess is you would beat the charges but they'd take your equipment if you have a lawyer. If you don't have money to fight it you'll probably get fucked with some intent to cook meth bs.

nicktater · Jan 20, 2014

Alright thanks again Mreduck. I have read your thread on extracts but may visit it again.

MrEDuck · Jan 21, 2014

No worries. The info is pretty generally applicable. I'd still do a bit of compound specific research as well. If you don't mind a crude extract of kratom you can probably just use an alcohol.

nicktater · Jan 21, 2014

Yeah I have done alcohol and water extracts. both work decently . but I'm growing kratom so I will have access to a large supply. I would like to find a way to make a pretty pure product. I read your thread again, if there a certain amount of time you defat for?

Next going for a good lsa extract. Growing hbwr and morning glories. I have tried a few times and failed but I have heard many good reports on success. most people seem to think its not worth it, but I have been told of lsa gel tabs that worked well, so it is possible.

nicktater · Jan 22, 2014

how about this? Had this in the house.
http://www.scotchcorp.com/downloads/MSDS UK 1969-70.pdf
Would rather use the calcium hydroxide but the only store that i found that had it couldn't locate it in the store, said they were remodeling.
Says it only contains KOH and NaOH. 34 oz = $5.88

MrEDuck · Jan 22, 2014

They only make up a max of 65% of the product so there's something else.

nicktater · Jan 22, 2014

Yeah i saw that, figured they meant water but didnt mention it. Ill just keep throwing that stuff down the drain, found mrs wages pickling lime pretty cheap online, i usually just dont like buying things online, cause you never know if it will come. Though i think i found a legit site. (the manufactures)

nicktater · Jan 22, 2014

Also, thank you. Id give you rep but it says i have to give it to someone else before giving it to you again.

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