Time to End "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
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Stoney McFried
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Not all morals are bad.But my idea of morality may differ from another person's. For example, many people find "naughty" words to be immoral. I don't. Nudity itself is nothing to be ashamed of,it's the context its viewed in that may cause a person to feel ashamed.
Making gay people pretend they're something they're not is an example of the subjectivity of morals.The gay person is being told they should be ashamed of what they are,and that they should hide it....because someone else is trying to make them live by their own particular set of morals.I think,as long as they're not hurting anyone,it's not immoral.There are folks on here who scream about "the gay agenda",and how gay people are trying to force them to accept homosexuality...but in the same breath, they say that gay people should not be openly gay while serving in the military...isn't that forcing an agenda on someone,too? If you don't wanna suck a cock,don't.But don't make someone else feel like a leper because they do.
And public nudity laws were enacted primarily to keep waiters from dragging their balls in the butter dish.
Making gay people pretend they're something they're not is an example of the subjectivity of morals.The gay person is being told they should be ashamed of what they are,and that they should hide it....because someone else is trying to make them live by their own particular set of morals.I think,as long as they're not hurting anyone,it's not immoral.There are folks on here who scream about "the gay agenda",and how gay people are trying to force them to accept homosexuality...but in the same breath, they say that gay people should not be openly gay while serving in the military...isn't that forcing an agenda on someone,too? If you don't wanna suck a cock,don't.But don't make someone else feel like a leper because they do.
And public nudity laws were enacted primarily to keep waiters from dragging their balls in the butter dish.
so morals are bad?
so you run around naked?
why public nudity laws then?
dukeofbaja
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Get 'em, Stoney!
bongload
I love the debate on this thread. Reviewing all the posts, I would say it is indeed time to end DADT, according to those that have expressed an opinion on the matter in this thread.
bongload
I love the debate on this thread. Reviewing all the posts, I would say it is indeed time to end DADT, according to those that have expressed an opinion on the matter in this thread.
one question:
why do you feel the need to tell me you are gay?
stoney can't be honest about nudity laws and you say "go get 'em"? lol
she thinks you can get pregnant simply by showering together.
yeah, she sure schooled me.
dukeofbaja
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Where did you get that I am gay? You better tell my fiance the wedding is off
dukeofbaja
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PS fdd2blk...you never elaborate an opinion! One liners are great, for jokes. But to be taken seriously in an honest debate like this one, articulate a viewpoint and stick by it.
Dr. Greenhorn
Well-Known Member
that was funny!
lol
Stoney McFried
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How am I being dishonest?Nudity laws are there because lawmakers decided public nudity was immoral.Not everyone shares that opinion. And no, I didn't say you can get pregnant by showering together,I said one reason they probably don't shower together is because of the risk of pregnancy...meaning if they had sex.Didn't think I had to spell that one out.
I also said I really didn't know.
Why the hostility?Aren't we just sharing our opinions? Gee,I give you my opinion and end on a joke to keep it light hearted, and suddenly I'm a liar and a dumbass who thinks you can get pregnant by sharing a shower.
I also said I really didn't know.
Why the hostility?Aren't we just sharing our opinions? Gee,I give you my opinion and end on a joke to keep it light hearted, and suddenly I'm a liar and a dumbass who thinks you can get pregnant by sharing a shower.
one question:
why do you feel the need to tell me you are gay?
stoney can't be honest about nudity laws and you say "go get 'em"? lol
she thinks you can get pregnant simply by showering together.
yeah, she sure schooled me.
my opinion is simply that and it means nothing. i have nothing to debate, nothing to prove. i'm not here to win.
i come seeking the truth. and the truth is nobody wants to hear about how gay you are. "you" being a generalized statement. you do understand that, don't you?
if i don't ask "you" then why do "you" feel the need to tell me? I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE GAY. so much so that i don't even want to hear about it. i have NO interest in your sex life.
this is not a witch hunt. nobody is seeking out gays so they can give them the boot. they simply don't want it shoved down their throats. hence the jehovahs witness reference. it's the military, there are much more important issues to focus on.
do you really need me to explain my every statement? can you not take 5 words and read into their true meaning? do i need to type out 8 paragraphs of my "opinion" to make a point? i'm sorry if you don't get it, but that's on you.
dukeofbaja
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He has selective understanding issues, at least in some respects. In others, I give him all the respect in the world. fdd2blk taught me how to harvest through his tutorial.
Also, being bored, I took a tally of those who expressed an opinion in this thread so far:
Favor ending DADT: 9
Oppose ending DADT: 7
Favor ending DADT:
upnorth2505
beardo
JohnnyOrganic
dukeofbaja
golfddog
Radiate
jesus of Cannabis
oil shell
Stoney McFried
Oppose ending DADT:
fdd2blk
Mcgician
trichlone fiend
MuyLocoNC
RickWhite
jeff f
CrackerJax
After careful obvservation, Doc111 only ever posted hilarious commentary about our debate. Hilarious!
Time for bed....bongload first
Also, being bored, I took a tally of those who expressed an opinion in this thread so far:
Favor ending DADT: 9
Oppose ending DADT: 7
Favor ending DADT:
upnorth2505
beardo
JohnnyOrganic
dukeofbaja
golfddog
Radiate
jesus of Cannabis
oil shell
Stoney McFried
Oppose ending DADT:
fdd2blk
Mcgician
trichlone fiend
MuyLocoNC
RickWhite
jeff f
CrackerJax
After careful obvservation, Doc111 only ever posted hilarious commentary about our debate. Hilarious!
Time for bed....bongload first
who's hostile? i was simply stating things as i saw them. i'm high, not hostile.How am I being dishonest?Nudity laws are there because lawmakers decided public nudity was immoral.Not everyone shares that opinion. And no, I didn't say you can get pregnant by showering together,I said one reason they probably don't shower together is because of the risk of pregnancy...meaning if they had sex.Didn't think I had to spell that one out.
I also said I really didn't know.
Why the hostility?Aren't we just sharing our opinions? Gee,I give you my opinion and end on a joke to keep it light hearted, and suddenly I'm a liar and a dumbass who thinks you can get pregnant by sharing a shower.
you said nudity laws were because of my dick in your soup. and your comment about the shower came off as serious. i was simply calling it as i read it. i apologize for being mistaken. i am far from hostile.
Stoney McFried
Well-Known Member
Well, I'm glad you're not hostile...I'd hate to have to grudge fuck you into submission.
who's hostile? i was simply stating things as i saw them. i'm high, not hostile.
you said nudity laws were because of my dick in your soup. and your comment about the shower came off as serious. i was simply calling it as i read it. i apologize for being mistaken. i am far from hostile.
Stoney McFried
Well-Known Member
Wait, what?
dukeofbaja
New Member
OK, so you don't care of someone is gay or not? Then give them the same rights that a straight person has... allow them the right to admit it openly without fear of repercussion. Anything other is discrimination. You know the military will function as effectively no matter what they legislate.
And to be honest, I sometimes don't get what your 5 word responses are getting at. Often times I do, but other times it is like my girlfriend watching Dennis Miller try to commentate on football.
And to be honest, I sometimes don't get what your 5 word responses are getting at. Often times I do, but other times it is like my girlfriend watching Dennis Miller try to commentate on football.
dukeofbaja
New Member
Sorry, I was assembling this post as I you guys were having that conversation. Totally off topic by the time I wrote it
i'm not in charge of handing out the rights. sorry, wish i could help.
this is why my opinion means nothing.
