TMB's Indoor 4'x4' Veg Tent & 7'X11' Flowering Area

treemansbuds said:

Hey Bob-
I don't want to sound stupid, but what is H202? I understand H20, but not H202, and explain how this will help? I'm hoping that this fits into the learn something new everyday category....... I just did a web search and found out what h202 is (learned that in 7th grade, guess i just smoked them brain cells away). We have about 5 gallons of water in the cloner, how much peroxide should we add? And thanks for the help, this cloner thing is my idea because we were having very little success the rock-wool/humidity dome technique. Making these fine tune adjustments is just part of the learning curve.
TMB

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No worries my friend - I had no clue what it was when I first read about it as well.

Basicallly, the H202 kills anything living in the water (which is good if you use chemical fertilizers like I do), but in a cloner you most likely don't have any, so it's perfect - an added benefit is that when it decomposes, it releases an extra oxygen molecule into the water (turning into H20 + 0), and more dissolved oxygen (O2) is always a good thing.

How much to use is dependent on what grade you have and also the age of your plants - I have 35% (food grade, had to order off of the Internet), but the stuff you get in your local pharmacy (3%) can be used as well.

I use 1mL/gallon of 35% on full grown plants, but 1/2 of that is fine for clones - so, 2.5mL per your five gallon bucket.

If using 3%, I'd use ~15-20mL, and see how that does for you (should work fine).

BTW, what's your issue with rockwool? Using a heating pad? That's vitally important to get consistent cloning times.

Hello Bob-
The clones don't stay at my home, so I wasn't able to watch them on a daily basis. My partners are able to have 99 non-mature plants, so all the cloning work happens there.
I think that they kept them too wet. I know at the beginning you need 2 keep them very wet, but after the first few days you need to let the root reach for the water. We do use a heating pad, but unable to get cloning this way dialed in. That's why the "cloner" was built.
We are new-bee's at this cloning stuff, so a li'l trial and error is in order.
Thanks for checking in, I can use all the help on this issue as I can get.

Spider Mites have shown up. They were brought in by the clones from my partners house. They will be sprayed with a product that was sold to me by the hydro shop. I'll wait until just before the lights go off to spray them.
Everything else is on track, the girls look great, I re-LST every 3-4 days to keep the height down.
The clones in the photos are 10 days into the soil, and the ones in the Dixie cups are 3 days old.

mites...oh no...what are you planning on treating with? looking good though, some stout ladies there.

Well treatment started on the girls. The girls with the worst issues have been kept in the tent and were treated first with Malation. I guess as an tester basis. Don't want to treat all the girls and have a bad reaction to the spray. I never used this product before, so I need to take small steps. I will update with photos tomorrow or day after.

malathion....no screwin around, eh? i like it. kill those mf-ers before they get established. i think it will get the eggs, but if not keep in mind that eggs can hide for a long time. i was finally able to get my room clean by using hot shsots no-pest strips. cheap, long lasting, no spraying, no plant reactions. just hang em up and breathe in the carcinogens....damn effective though. whatever you do, good luck on those bastards. no mercy!

Today I watered the girls with just seaweed extract. I gave them a full watering, soaking the pots, drenching the soil.
The girls will get a Malation bath tonight just before the lights go out. Going to go full out on attacking these bitches. I hear horror stories about spider mites, so I'm 100% committed on getting rid of these fuckers.

The girls got watered today with just ph adjusted water. No nutes, no nothing, just water.
I re-LSTed the girls last night. They are getting big and will need to be moved into larger pots by next week this time. I'm having a hard time finding places to keep tying to. The pots are too narrow across the top. I hope to add a 1000watts to the room next week too.

Ordered a light mover yesterday, hope to have it here by the end of the week. This is what I bought http://cgi.ebay.com/LIGHT-RAIL-3-5-INTELLIDRIVE-MOVER-10RPM-6-FOOT-BEST-BUY_W0QQitemZ190328979199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c507dbeff
Should make a difference, lets hope.

hey buddy
did you consider getting a dehumidifier since you said your tent was soaking wet
i have the same problem too, i just hooked up my co2 system earlier and the tent was soaking wet
iono, i plan on getting a dehumidifier since my lamps are air cooled and i ran the tubing all the way from outside of my tent
theres no open spots from my aircooled lamps since im running ducting all the way from each end of the holes for the tent
lmk thanks bro

hey tmb. hows the mite situation going?

totally scribed.

this looks very interesting. good luck on those mites and your new light mover

I fixed my "walls getting wet" issue when I started exhausting my grow room every 3 hours. No more issues, everything is going smoothly. I'm able to maintain the 1500ppm of co2 in the room this way.

Hello CAashtree-
Round 2 of the fight happened last night when the girls were sprayed with AVID just before lights went out. This stuff is supposed to last 30 days. I will spray again later this week, Wed or Thurs night.

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Thanks for stopping by and checking in. Yes can't wait for the mover to show up. Should make a big difference.

avid should do the trick. i like you tmb, you take no shit from arthropods.

Here are some photos of the girls. As you can see the girls are a bit crowed under those lights. Another 1000watt by the end of the week i hope.

nice work. that shiva skunk is a bushy little beast. me likey.

Was at my partners house last night to do a li'l work. I brought along my camera and took a few shots of the "flower room". Their flower room is 4'-6" x 7'-6" and running 2-600watt HPS.
The frosty bud is a Strawberry Cough (not the Strawberry cough X Deep Chunk you seen in other photos, completely different, no relation). The girls in the room on the far left is Shiva Skunk and the Strawberry Cough X Deep Chunk. They are stacked up from top 2 bottom.
The plants on the right are mother plants that got too big for the veg room, so clones were taken, new mothers in the veg room, so these graduated to the flower room. They're Jack Herer, Mind Bender X Afghangooey, and the Strawberry Cough. The small plants on the bottom are the Lemon Purps... "bad Pheno" types that I started, so instead of wasting them, we just put them in the flower room, and get a few nugs from them. That Pheno type is very stoney, and frosty, but are low producers/yielders.

Just finished treating the girls with another round of Avid. I will back-off after this treatment, and pay close attention to the girls, inspecting daily.
Tomorrow the temps are expected to get into the mid 60's. I'm going to take all the girls outside, put them in the sun, and clean the grow room from top to bottom with bleach. I know them mites are hiding somewhere in there.