Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

boblawblah421 said:

Hey Gandalf...

Any opinion on the Progress Earth products yet? I've used most of them, but I think I'm about to cut them all out other than the Earth Compound. I intend to use it to inoculate my soil while it cooks, and hit my garden with a foliar with it every now and then.

If you're cooking up some good recycled soil, the rest of the Progress Earth products seem kind of pointless.

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To be honest with you I am pretty happy with the mix I am running. My teas are working, as all the plants are praying this morning. I have not had the time to get around to them. I will experiment with it down the line a bit for fun but I know that you can do things just as well following tried and true methods. You can get everything your plants need with other ways. It's all what floats your boat. Take care. I know Myco has just started to play with some of their stuff.

Earth Compound = Humus primarily? Plenty of that in your compost and VC.

Could you folks recommend a good, reasonably priced brand of bagged worm castings (25lb). I'm mixing a batch of super soil. I usually use a local worm farmer, but he only sells during the summer.
Thanks
NSB

NoSwagBag said:

Could you folks recommend a good, reasonably priced brand of bagged worm castings (25lb). I'm mixing a batch of super soil. I usually use a local worm farmer, but he only sells during the summer.
Thanks
NSB

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You're in Maine? Check out a company called Coast of Maine.

Their site: http://www.coastofmaine.com/soils-wiscasset.shtml

NoSwagBag said:

Could you folks recommend a good, reasonably priced brand of bagged worm castings (25lb). I'm mixing a batch of super soil. I usually use a local worm farmer, but he only sells during the summer.
Thanks
NSB

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In a pinch I think COM. Wiggle Worm are Black Gold are half the price of the COM. It's funny that only the COM product that I feel is pricey is their ewc. Let me know what you chose.

Gandalf I think I glanced at your organic run... if there was a possibility to shrink down the list... lol is everything necessary

There are plenty of ways to do this. That list is the Rev's mix. There are many other ways to get going. What medium are you running right now? I can show you some cool ways to do anything. I want you to understand the why behind things too. The biggest thing for me is that you are comfortable and running things the way you want. Let's get you started. I would suggest a staged entry into this depending on how you would like to do things and what desired outcomes are.

lol welp the desired outcome is the gunna have to be the best I can possibly grow lol. what's available to me now that I've used as my medium is a 50/50 of FFOF/FFHF with perlite and dolomite lime with some great white at transplant. I've seen at my local bags of EWC and the guanos and etc, and am interested in where I should start reading to get started. I just did a transplant (I am perpetual) but in about 3 weeks I should be ready to pot up clones and some Sky Walker beans I started, hopefully i'll have orangic down by time I get my ggg beans hehe. I wana eventually get some fabric pots but for now I just run 1 and 3 gal, and a 15 gal clone mother

Im excited!

RadMichelle said:

lol welp the desired outcome is the gunna have to be the best I can possibly grow lol. what's available to me now that I've used as my medium is a 50/50 of FFOF/FFHF with perlite and dolomite lime with some great white at transplant. I've seen at my local bags of EWC and the guanos and etc, and am interested in where I should start reading to get started. I just did a transplant (I am perpetual) but in about 3 weeks I should be ready to pot up clones and some Sky Walker beans I started, hopefully i'll have orangic down by time I get my ggg beans hehe. I wana eventually get some fabric pots but for now I just run 1 and 3 gal, and a 15 gal clone mother

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What are you feeding with?

Here is a great thread with some serious life changing info. It is worth your time.

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html

GandalfdaGreen said:

Here is a great thread with some serious life changing info. It is worth your time.

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html

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Thanks for the link to that thread great reading

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So I'm still on the whole Progress Earth deal...

Earth Compound is...

Well, it's the shit is what it is. It is a humus product, but beyond that it contains BTI, nematodes, and protozoa, along with all the other beneficial bacteria and fungi. It also has kelp, biochar, rockdust, and colloidal clay.

The "biodynamic preparations" haven't even been mentioned yet. I won't get into this much other than to say that these are all specific plants that are found on the first page of the ROLS thread. These plants all have a particular benefit in store for your garden, and Progress Earth has gone ahead and fermented all of them for you. They've also been fermented while buried inside of the Earth, on a lunar schedule.

So yeah... Earth Compound is a humus source, bacteria/fungi inoculant, nematode/protozoa inoculant, mineral/trace element/silica source, insecticide/fungicide/pesticide, compost/microbial/growth stimulant, holistic, ancient, astrological farming product, in one bag.

Last night I chopped down my prettiest plant ever. She was the only one with Earth Compound, and I'm sold.

If your soil is somewhere close to the recipe found on page one of the ROLS thread, and use molasses on occasion, all of the Progress Earth products other than Earth Compound are pointless. The Earth Syrup is kind of cool for a real quick and easy compost tea, but over priced for what it is. If you are somewhere close to said recipe but would like to save a lot of time and not have to harvest and ferment your own yarrow, chamomile, stinging nettle, oak bark, dandelion, valerian, and horsetail, and/or care to base a little bit of faith into some ancient, lunar based farming methods, pick up some Earth Compound. Brew it in a simple tea and hit your cooking compost with it, and give your gals a foliar.

Sorry to drag this on. I feel it deserves a touch of attention.

I think the components in the bag are great. Sounds awesome. I can sure see why you'd like it!

Many paths to Rome. Personally? I planted Comfrey at my new place to get it started for next year's use. Some aspects of fresh plant amendments are lost on dried or fermented preparations. I'll be planting bio-accumulators in addition to comfrey. If you can get fresh, I'd recommend it. Simple water & bubbler extraction.

Again, that's just my preference. That and $0.02 and you've got two cents.

GandalfdaGreen said:

Here is a great thread with some serious life changing info. It is worth your time.

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html

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Hey there, still reading this link, i'm digging it lol. What I've been using is whats immediately available to me, just the ff trio, I've used some of GH and boticares line ups, dabble in different pk boosters but i'm eventually wanting to stray towards only having to water and teas, molasses etc. thanks again, back to reading lol

boblawblah421 said:

So I'm still on the whole Progress Earth deal...

Earth Compound is...

Well, it's the shit is what it is. It is a humus product, but beyond that it contains BTI, nematodes, and protozoa, along with all the other beneficial bacteria and fungi. It also has kelp, biochar, rockdust, and colloidal clay.

The "biodynamic preparations" haven't even been mentioned yet. I won't get into this much other than to say that these are all specific plants that are found on the first page of the ROLS thread. These plants all have a particular benefit in store for your garden, and Progress Earth has gone ahead and fermented all of them for you. They've also been fermented while buried inside of the Earth, on a lunar schedule.

So yeah... Earth Compound is a humus source, bacteria/fungi inoculant, nematode/protozoa inoculant, mineral/trace element/silica source, insecticide/fungicide/pesticide, compost/microbial/growth stimulant, holistic, ancient, astrological farming product, in one bag.

Last night I chopped down my prettiest plant ever. She was the only one with Earth Compound, and I'm sold.

If your soil is somewhere close to the recipe found on page one of the ROLS thread, and use molasses on occasion, all of the Progress Earth products other than Earth Compound are pointless. The Earth Syrup is kind of cool for a real quick and easy compost tea, but over priced for what it is. If you are somewhere close to said recipe but would like to save a lot of time and not have to harvest and ferment your own yarrow, chamomile, stinging nettle, oak bark, dandelion, valerian, and horsetail, and/or care to base a little bit of faith into some ancient, lunar based farming methods, pick up some Earth Compound. Brew it in a simple tea and hit your cooking compost with it, and give your gals a foliar.

Sorry to drag this on. I feel it deserves a touch of attention.

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the bu's blend compost is biodynamic too and fungi dominant Its cow manure, humus chamomile, nettle, dandelions, tree bark and some other stuff. My outdoor loves it. Topdressed and watered with a tea 2 days ago. For 2 days it was 80 degrees. Today it was 100 degrees and the leaves were praying all day even in direct sunlight. Bu's blend compost $18 1 cu ft. I topdressed 12 7 gals and 1 3 gal and about 40 gal of recyled soil. Made 10 gal of tea. Put a layer in my worm bin. 30 gal tote. Still have 1/3 of the bag left. I topdressed indoor the other day. Watered with a tea last night. They haven't woke up yet.

boblawblah421 said:

So I'm still on the whole Progress Earth deal...

Earth Compound is...

Well, it's the shit is what it is. It is a humus product, but beyond that it contains BTI, nematodes, and protozoa, along with all the other beneficial bacteria and fungi. It also has kelp, biochar, rockdust, and colloidal clay.

The "biodynamic preparations" haven't even been mentioned yet. I won't get into this much other than to say that these are all specific plants that are found on the first page of the ROLS thread. These plants all have a particular benefit in store for your garden, and Progress Earth has gone ahead and fermented all of them for you. They've also been fermented while buried inside of the Earth, on a lunar schedule.

So yeah... Earth Compound is a humus source, bacteria/fungi inoculant, nematode/protozoa inoculant, mineral/trace element/silica source, insecticide/fungicide/pesticide, compost/microbial/growth stimulant, holistic, ancient, astrological farming product, in one bag.

Last night I chopped down my prettiest plant ever. She was the only one with Earth Compound, and I'm sold.

If your soil is somewhere close to the recipe found on page one of the ROLS thread, and use molasses on occasion, all of the Progress Earth products other than Earth Compound are pointless. The Earth Syrup is kind of cool for a real quick and easy compost tea, but over priced for what it is. If you are somewhere close to said recipe but would like to save a lot of time and not have to harvest and ferment your own yarrow, chamomile, stinging nettle, oak bark, dandelion, valerian, and horsetail, and/or care to base a little bit of faith into some ancient, lunar based farming methods, pick up some Earth Compound. Brew it in a simple tea and hit your cooking compost with it, and give your gals a foliar.

Sorry to drag this on. I feel it deserves a touch of attention.

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I have the starter kit I bought a few months ago. I will play around with it and see what happens. I might as well use it before it goes bad. I will dedicate some clones to it. My soil is pretty loaded up. What soil do you run this in? I will even take pictures. This will be cool.

My indoor are super perky praying. They love the bu's. It seeps into the soil well on its own. Doesn't just stay covered. Stays soft doesn't solidify like eco scraps sometimes does. I like it.. I want to source the same ingredients for cheaper if I can find it all. Add it to my worm bin. I can find it all localy except the cow manure. I would like to grow comfrey too. I don't have the room unless I can grow it in a pot in my living room...

My soil was too hot when I used the Earth Compound. I did not know then what I know now. This was my guerilla grow this year. I spread myself too thin, and couldn't keep up with my 60 gallon vortex brewer going through about 50 gallons every other day this entire month. My recipe was all organic, but I was barking up the wrong tree. No need in wasting time relaying a recipe I am confident needed much improvement. I'm in the process of gathering beautiful compost from around the property and a few sources and adding:

fish & fish bone meal, kelp meal, neem meal, crab meal, oyster shell, local alfalfa hay, local granite dust, lime, bentonite, baslat, french green clay, and diatomaceous earth. I will go light on all of the above, as my dirt/compost should be kickin as is.

If I could have stayed on top of my compost tea regiment that I intended to, more of my crop would have done much better. If this... If that...

One Wonder Woman, and one Lemon Skunk split a $50, 24 oz bag of Earth Compound amended into their soil.

That WoWo couldn't handle all the rain she saw in August, when she was so super huge and dense already. Fucking mold... That plant was beautiful. Oh well.

The Lemon Skunk got chopped down last night, and all I can say is...

I'm buying another bag of Earth Compound, and using it more wisely. Just a touch is going in my dirt via a vortex brewed tea, and the rest will be saved for foliar teas.

Gandalf... I would do a control with only the Earth Compound, and none of the other Progress Earth products, in a similar fashion as I just stated. Compare that to a few with the entire Progress Earth regiment. I think you will be pleased with the results. I've used basically the whole Progress Earth product line. They're all cool products, but catered to people making shit loads of compost tea who value their time more than a dollar. In my opinion, the whole holistic aspect of the Earth Compound is what sets it apart.

hyroot... I've read great things about Bu's, but can't find it locally. Not to mention that I managed to gather almost 300 gallons of awesome, composted media without spending a dime. Also, Earth Compound is completely water soluble. It's the one "lazy people" product I'm keeping in my arsenal.

60 gallon vortex brewer??? Nice. You must be a busy man. I am going to pick out a few clones tomorrow. I'll start brewing it it too. This will be fun. So its cool to run it in amended soil?