Trichomes, Potency, THC Content

You didn't say "In my opinion........." or "I think...........". You stated your opinion as fact. Which scared the crap out of a guy who had just purchased some expensive white widow seeds. I've talked to people who didn't care for white widow but say what you want about it..............it is still a very potent strain, period.

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Agreed, I should have put IMO.

Sorry for whoever I scared, I'm sure you'll love the WW, I'm just not a fan of it.

Do calyxes swell up during the last couple weeks

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IME, yes. Weeks 6 - 8

sir rance alot said:

Ok....ok... Now that's over, next question is....
I know that this might be a strain specific question but...

Do calyxes swell up during the last couple weeks?

I'm now into my 5th week of flower and everything looks great but I was wondering if the calyxes on the buds will all swell up like the calyx at the base of the petiole.

The calyx that first shows sex is the one I'm talking about. These have gotten huge lately but the ones on the buds are much smaller. Can I expect a nice calyx swell during the final couple weeks?

I'm not sure what to expect during the final stages, I have ordered Ak 48 and super skunk for my second grow, wanted to do some regs bagseed first to get my setup tuned. The buds I have now are extremely hairy but the calyxes seem to be lagging.

Is this normal for this age? 5th week

By the way... Thanks for the help and info guys. Rep for all

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As a general rule the calyxes and buds in general will swell up in the last couple of weeks of flowering. Remember that genetics, environment and growing conditions will all factor into this.

Dr. Indica said:

Agreed, I should have put IMO.

Sorry for whoever I scared, I'm sure you'll love the WW, I'm just not a fan of it.




IME, yes. Weeks 6 - 8

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It's all relative my friend. If you've never smoked anything good then some brick schwag may be devestating to you. White Widow is going to cause most people to act stupid. It's not the most potent strain out there and not the most potent I've ever grown. Potency is only a part of the growing and smoking experience. What about smell and taste? What about the kind of high? Some like a more up high, some like a more couchlock stone. You can say whatever you want about any strain but be careful because somebody is going to disagree with you no matter what you say. That's why I always qualify a sentence with IMO when discussing strains. Have a good one my friend and don't get pissy when someone disagrees with you. It's all good.

Next question....

Is it ok for me to listen to Hollywood Undead music after smoking?
My therapist says no.... But I need a second opinion.

Again... Thanks for the input fellas, lots of useful info. Hope I didn't miss anyone on reps.

doc111 said:

It's all relative my friend. If you've never smoked anything good then some brick schwag may be devestating to you. White Widow is going to cause most people to act stupid. It's not the most potent strain out there and not the most potent I've ever grown. Potency is only a part of the growing and smoking experience. What about smell and taste. What abou the kind of high. Some like a more up high, some like a more couchlock stone. You can say whatever you want about any strain but be careful because somebody is going to disagree with you no matter what you say. That's why I always qualify a sentence with IMO when discussin strains. Have a good one my friend and don't get pissy when someone disagrees with you. It's all good.

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I know exactly what you mean, me and my girl are complete spectral opposites when it comes to what we like to smoke. Me [ Indica ] Her [ Sativa ]....I would never say that White Rhino is the most potent strain, but it's one of my favorites. That's why I'm growing it, haven't had it in years and I can't wait to taste that taste that I remember.

Is it ok for me to listen to Hollywood Undead music after smoking?

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Go for it.

On a different topic, does leaf shape and size identify the type always?

I remember from the 80's that wide fingers meant indica and narrow meant sativa but is it possible to have both kinds of leaves on the same plant?

My plant at the bottom 2 ft. have huge wide fingers, the leaves are over 12 inches wide and 14 inches long.
At the top the leaves are still long but are extremely narrow. Everything is healthy and normal looking but the leaf differences are pretty drastic.

Could humidity changes the first couple weeks have affected this?

sir rance alot said:

On a different topic, does leaf shape and size identify the type always?

I remember from the 80's that wide fingers meant indica and narrow meant sativa but is it possible to have both kinds of leaves on the same plant?

My plant at the bottom 2 ft. have huge wide fingers, the leaves are over 12 inches wide and 14 inches long.
At the top the leaves are still long but are extremely narrow. Everything is healthy and normal looking but the leaf differences are pretty drastic.

Could humidity changes the first couple weeks have affected this?

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Yes it's possible, I recently grew some plants out that were quite short and very Indica looking. But as soon as they hit flower they stretched like nobody's business and took on several Sativa characteristics. All depends what in it's gene pool. This is why I like to work with true breeding plants and clones. The White Rhino that I'm doing right now from Nirvana has several different phenotypes, so all the plants look similar but different at the same time. I'll select a mother from this and take clones so that I have a nice SOG garden at all times.

Make sure your pH is good and your lights are not too close.

Thanks Dr Indica. That's exactly what mine did.

Good to know.

Just remember..... You didn't spend all those years at medical marijuana school to be called Mr. Indica

He he.....

I think my gene pool came in on the short bus...

Maybe I can still enjoy it though... man these last few weeks are a bitch to wait for....

Patients is a virtue>>>Ya right!!!.. PEACE

sir rance alot said:

I think my gene pool came in on the short bus...

Maybe I can still enjoy it though... man these last few weeks are a bitch to wait for....

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I just got Northern Lights from Nirvana in the mail today [ placed 2 orders right before New Year's and got 2 free 10 packs ], and my Pineapple Express and L.A. Woman from the Attitude.

Placing another order with Attitude tomorrow while the give away is going on

sir rance alot said:

I think my gene pool came in on the short bus...

Maybe I can still enjoy it though... man these last few weeks are a bitch to wait for....

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Patience my friend, patience. The most difficult aspect of growing IMO. Plants inherit phenotypes from the parents. Phenotypes are the physical expression of the genetics of a plant. Not a good indicator of potency. I'm sure you will get a good harvest. And don't get discouraged if your harvest doesn't turn out like you expect. Most people aren't master growers overnight.

I wish I could have seen the parents of the ones I have now.

About 12 or 14 days after the seeds popped up, I topped 3 of the 4 plants and within 4 weeks they were all over 4 ft. tall.

I ended up vegging 5 weeks and they are currently beginning 5th week of flower.

Now they are over 6 ft tall from the soil to the tops. I ended up having to super crop the tops of the tallest plants at week 3 of flowering.

I know this was bad at this late stage but had no choice really. However, the plants I did snap over are now exploding. I just snapped the top 16 inches and it looks like there are 8 colas now, the limbs went vertical and all are doing great now.

I cannot wait to get started on some real seeds.

sir rance alot said:

Next question....

Is it ok for me to listen to Hollywood Undead music after smoking?
My therapist says no.... But I need a second opinion.

Again... Thanks for the input fellas, lots of useful info. Hope I didn't miss anyone on reps.

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Serious question?

Listen to the kind of music that reflects the mood you want to be in. Also remember that you can guide your high/stone to any place you want it to go.

biggun said:

Patients is a virtue>>>Ya right!!!.. PEACE

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Most doctors believe that patients and patience are virtues.

Nahhhh....It wasnt a serious question... I thought throwing the therapist thing in there would have made it funny, but then again, I am high a lot..

I thought you were joking but since there are real MMJ patients here I gave it the benefit of the doubt.

Its all good, I just like to break up serious stuff with a little joking around...Even if im the only one that gets it, it still makes me laugh..

I enjoy the day as much as possible, even when I make a fool of myself.. Hell, thats the best part. peace

My widow she keeps me high for 4 hours at time she's white as hell and twice as strong

doc111 said:

what the hell are you talking about? White widow was the strongest strain available for years. It's still one of the strongest. This doesn't mean that it's potent because it has a lot of trichomes. It was bred for potency. I just finished growing some white widow. I have been growing for many years and it definitely gets me high for more than 15 minutes at a time. It's one of the best strains i've ever grown. Unbelievable...................

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no white is not still one off the strongest... Shantibabas orignal mother an father have gone an ghs have nt had anytink near it for along along time.

On the point about the calyx swelling on the oldest calyx's - this is normal, the first flowers that formed have come to the end of their ability to produce seed and so swell and the once white but now red hairs receed back into the calyx a bit or drop off. This is the start of the ripening period of your bud and the next newest flowers to form will start to swell and then the ones formed after that and the ones after that and so on. What you see is calyx's swelling and new flowers being made, when the ratio of calyx's swollen is very high and the new flowers are very scarce then i consider harvesting.

I would never harvest my bud till most of the calyx's swell, people say it can be judged by the percentage of red hairs but you will get red hairs from an early stage, wait for the calyx's to swell and the red hairs to go tatty and pull back into the calyx's, this is the type of red hairs they mean by which to judge ripeness.

I only grow white widow and only seeds i obtained from dutch passion about four years ago, these seeds were reputed to be the best, original and most stable white widow strain going with pure white widow genetics. Blows other weed away, problem is it is a bit too strong, am left dribbiling down myself slumped in a chair. It is 75percent indica and 25percent sativa. Apparently these seeds are legendary. I don't believe the hype but the best seeds you could buy at the time. White widow rocks! It can be a bit leafy but hell the leaves are just as good as the bud and just as white. The guy obviously never smoked any quality white widow, the shit scares me when i smoke it!!