thats what I was thinking but wasnt sure if I should put one at one end and one at the other end? or one on each side
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Ralph Wiley
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hey trich, check greentrees hydroponics for cultilene rockwool, thats where ive gotten it, i also like the sure to grow cubes 1 1/2x1 1/2, they stay dry, as with there hail, doesnt "hold" water. The sure to grow loose fill hold water, gotta use the hail cubes, allows lots of free air space so the mist can penetrate better, (if using a medium of course). And i also noticed that someone awhile back mention the 1/4"nptf jg adapters for your misters were female, actually the f is referring to food, the packaging will arrive with a fork in the lower corner. Bout to bite the bullet and have to drop some $$$ to get my accumulator from the uk, gave my high pressure tank to my buddy who took the old stainless misting system trying to repair it, what a difference a few years makes, now i cant find anything above 150psi, and its cheaper to by a 300L tank and ship to the us than to have one made, so ill be ordering 2.
I wrote the software for a usb cycle timer, it works ok considering i only have about a months worth of programming experience. I`m more comfortable with a soldering iron, some veroboard (stripboard) and simple electronic components
Ralph Wiley
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Oops, atomizer, I was making a point of how expensive it'd be to by a 16 bar tank here in comparison to one that large shipped. I'm looking at 2 Elbi 60l tanks, 15.85 gal, one for nutes, one for flush, may get another so I don't have to connect 3 4.5g for veg/clones. After reading my post, yeah, my arm would be toast pumping that by hand, LOL. New test pump arrived, a nice upgrade from the rp30 I have to say.
Ralph Wiley
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Im not sure why, my last tanks were 20 bar stainless 14 gal local made for 400 5 yrs ago, now I can't find anybody local who makes even 10 bar. Maybe Watts is putting everyone out of business with there 2 gal, and 4.5 gal expansion tanks rated to 10 bar. I know I like the UK tanks a lot more than Watts or utilitech tanks. Will pay for the Elbi tank, which can be fixed if it goes out, and will last, so the shipping WILL really suck, but the reliability will be worth it.
Trichy Bastard
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A fork eh? What exactly is it you're smoking over there?
Thanks for the cultilene link, gonna check it out now. I searched high and low after realizing the grodan holds stupid amounts of water even compared to the rockwool I used 20 years ago. Why anyone would want this much water holding in rockwool in any situation is beyond me... It reminds me more of shredded cotton.EDIT: So I looked over there, and didn't notice cultilene, however they have a product called "Pargro" which is made by Grodan but claims to hold 14% less water than cultilene. If you have any links please share them as I am not sure I'd trust any Grodan product after my experiences. I am using thier minicubes currently, and it's causing me a lot of issue keeping the correct amount of moisture, although I am getting better with it.
Trichy Bastard
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So, a deeper look into seed germination yielded some nuggets of info I'm about to test. I've had some seeds from a Holland seedbank that are not germinating, and I'd hate to lose them. I found that nitric oxide tends to help along the germination process, and is not surprising because it is a component of smoke. Everyone that has seen a plot of land recently after a forest fire knows that the soil is fertile and grows lots of plants at the opportunity of first rain. I was thinking of ways to best deliver smoke to my seeds and thought about a bottle of liquid smoke in my pantry. A little investigation into things gave me this info:
http://books.google.com/books?id=G11-5lCx4I0C&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=liquid+smoke+nitric+oxide&source=bl&ots=bp8RH8MHKi&sig=rUDdk2Sc2vJtJ0LfkGfP-YAMJeA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8GnhT9LVJOjc2QX4osW1Cw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=liquid smoke nitric oxide&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_smoke (See: USES)
So, I've tried about 3 drops of liquid smoke in just enough r.o. water to wet a paper towel, and rolled my seeds up in the wet smokey towel. I'll let you guys know how it goes in the next few days... Funny how my searches for "increasing seed germination" did not give me any info on using smoke, but only when reading a scientific paper when they referenced nitric oxide did I make the connection. But as you can plainly see, wikipedia does mention liquid smoke as a probable seed germination helper... I can't wait to prove if this works or not for me
http://books.google.com/books?id=G11-5lCx4I0C&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=liquid+smoke+nitric+oxide&source=bl&ots=bp8RH8MHKi&sig=rUDdk2Sc2vJtJ0LfkGfP-YAMJeA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8GnhT9LVJOjc2QX4osW1Cw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=liquid smoke nitric oxide&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_smoke (See: USES)
So, I've tried about 3 drops of liquid smoke in just enough r.o. water to wet a paper towel, and rolled my seeds up in the wet smokey towel. I'll let you guys know how it goes in the next few days... Funny how my searches for "increasing seed germination" did not give me any info on using smoke, but only when reading a scientific paper when they referenced nitric oxide did I make the connection. But as you can plainly see, wikipedia does mention liquid smoke as a probable seed germination helper... I can't wait to prove if this works or not for me
Interesting tb sometimes things can add to the sex of the plant as pet flora Said in his thread germing in garbcetic ( I think that's name) can increase te
chances of It being a female I find filtered tap water works best r.o has zero elements to provide any sorta life
tap has minerals and such. Maybe try a tiny amount of Kln with RO and I'd bet they take
if ur Liquid smoke doesn't do
chances of It being a female I find filtered tap water works best r.o has zero elements to provide any sorta life
tap has minerals and such. Maybe try a tiny amount of Kln with RO and I'd bet they take
if ur Liquid smoke doesn't do
Trichy Bastard
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I'm pretty sure sex is predetermined at seed "conception", although only 99% sure on that one. I also read that the seed shell can be carefully cut or sanded down as it's often the culprit as it ages... Either way, I've got some fun stuff to try...
I thought the same thing but apparently not and environment lighting, humidity, temp all play a role to hot=males red spectrum=males to dry=males
I guess it's a hermaphrodite like we are te first few months were in the womb!
Trichy Bastard
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A link to this information would be appreciated... I've seen some of it before but didn't trust the source at the time. It's also possible these factors do make the proposed influences, but at the time the seed is born as opposed to after germination.
konagirl420
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Hey tb just wanted to drop in and say hi, hope all is going good your way! Love your new avatar lmfao 
Trichy Bastard
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Thanks kona, it's proof my nerdiness is "deeply rooted" lmfaoHey tb just wanted to drop in and say hi, hope all is going good your way! Love your new avatar lmfao
Trichy Bastard
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Well, here I am talking to myself again...So, a deeper look into seed germination yielded some nuggets of info I'm about to test. I've had some seeds from a Holland seedbank that are not germinating, and I'd hate to lose them. I found that nitric oxide tends to help along the germination process, and is not surprising because it is a component of smoke. Everyone that has seen a plot of land recently after a forest fire knows that the soil is fertile and grows lots of plants at the opportunity of first rain. I was thinking of ways to best deliver smoke to my seeds and thought about a bottle of liquid smoke in my pantry. A little investigation into things gave me this info:
http://books.google.com/books?id=G11-5lCx4I0C&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=liquid+smoke+nitric+oxide&source=bl&ots=bp8RH8MHKi&sig=rUDdk2Sc2vJtJ0LfkGfP-YAMJeA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8GnhT9LVJOjc2QX4osW1Cw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=liquid smoke nitric oxide&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_smoke (See: USES)
So, I've tried about 3 drops of liquid smoke in just enough r.o. water to wet a paper towel, and rolled my seeds up in the wet smokey towel. I'll let you guys know how it goes in the next few days... Funny how my searches for "increasing seed germination" did not give me any info on using smoke, but only when reading a scientific paper when they referenced nitric oxide did I make the connection. But as you can plainly see, wikipedia does mention liquid smoke as a probable seed germination helper... I can't wait to prove if this works or not for me
Just wanted to update that I forgot about the seeds, and when I looked one of the 2 had a tail pointing out! I'll have to do summore testing, but so far I can say I have definitely proven that liquid smoke does not kill all seeds... What I hope to confidently say is that it helps germination, especially on older or harder to germinate seeds. It couldv'e been dumb luck, however not one of the seeds would sprout for months of trying, it looks slightly promising. And who knows, perhaps I just gave life to the first BBQ flavored strain hehe...
Trichy Bastard
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Irony... I'm getting pretty lax with cloning lately after all I've been playing around with it. 2 days ago I accidentally snapped a fairly large branch off my tomato bush and decided a few hours later instead of throwing it away what the heck- so I pinched off an inch off the bottom of the stem with my fingers (incase it was cavitated with air) (no sterilized razor blade) and threw it in the cloner- it was severely wilted and in pretty bad shape- perfect for an experiment. I misted it foliarly and it hydrated quickly with the stem mistings in the cloner helping too. Low and behold around 50 hours later there are 2 roots poking out around 1/4"- a new personal record! It almost makes me wonder if either letting the cutting starve for water first, or perhaps my pinching/crushing of the stem might have helped- definitely warrants further experimentation...
Trichy Bastard
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It's weird, the cutting only ever sprouted a few root sites, but they all got really long quickly- matter of fact over one night the main root grew about 4-5 inches, and I was shocked to see it the next morning. It hasn't changed much since then and this is how it looks today: (Day 9)Haha, Now I'm going to have to try that with my cherry tomato. I built a table for it and a couple other veggies and they love it. And man do those tomatoes taste good, cant wait for my strawberries to start fruiting
outlander1
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My apologies if these were mentioned in this thread or not. I've been through so many different threads, and it's often the same people. 
Anyway, I somehow came across an open tab and noticed these: http://www.dripworks.com/product/Q_MN
I suppose you wouldn't be able to run too many off one pump with the GPH it needs.
Anyway, I somehow came across an open tab and noticed these: http://www.dripworks.com/product/Q_MN