Trying again. Pro mix hp, 3 purple pope seeds from night owl. Any help appreciated.

kronicking421 said:

Unfortunately i think they ended up getting too dry today. The 1 plant was already drooping and really dry. I sprayed them with a decent amount of water around the plant but not at the stem. I am thinking i might spray it for 1 more day tomorrow than the day after using a dropper to fully moisten the pot till runoff unless it is too early for that. The reason i say I can’t increase the humidity is because it is bad for your house if you have high or normal humidity in winter. Maybe i could get a humidifier for the tent and a dehumidifier to combat it but I don’t really have the money or a vehicle to make that worth it. Plus winter is coming to an end shortly.

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Do you not already water the whole pot when you water the plants? What is the humidity now where the plants are growing?

It's super dry where we are and most people have whole house humidifiers to keep the rh up in their homes. Getting too dry in the house is more likely to do harm to it than a decent level of rh. It's 15% in my house right now and 35% in the tent with the plants. I just have a little USB fan for the exhaust in there so the moisture hangs around longer. If I want the rh higher in there I'll run my humidifier in the room so all the air going into the tent is at a higher rh. Putting the humidifier in the tent with a normal exhaust fan doesn't help the plants much.

kronicking421 said:

END OF DAY 2. Just took a picture during lights out. Looks like the plant isn’t falling over anymore although it is a little wonky. View attachment 5268148

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Prop up the wonky one so it's bent over at the top but the stem stands straight. Leave it like that a few days and the head will straighten itself out.

OldMedUser said:

Do you not already water the whole pot when you water the plants? What is the humidity now where the plants are growing?

It's super dry where we are and most people have whole house humidifiers to keep the rh up in their homes. Getting too dry in the house is more likely to do harm to it than a decent level of rh. It's 15% in my house right now and 35% in the tent with the plants. I just have a little USB fan for the exhaust in there so the moisture hangs around longer. If I want the rh higher in there I'll run my humidifier in the room so all the air going into the tent is at a higher rh. Putting the humidifier in the tent with a normal exhaust fan doesn't help the plants much.

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I have not fully watered the container yet. Only the pre moistening before potting so it had a really tiny amount of water in it so it would develop roots quick. Also the spraying that i have been doing often. Trying to concentrate on spraying the outsides more trying to stay away from the root hoping it will look for the water and not cause rot. It’s 18% humidity in my house and my tent. I’m not sure what it is under the domes but i am sure it is up there. Need to get some of those tiny hygrometers. I don’t quite get how the humidity is that big of a difference between your tent and house. Are the plants big and producing humidity?

kronicking421 said:

I have not fully watered the container yet. Only the pre moistening before potting so it had a really tiny amount of water in it so it would develop roots quick. Also the spraying that i have been doing often. Trying to concentrate on spraying the outsides more trying to stay away from the root hoping it will look for the water and not cause rot. It’s 18% humidity in my house and my tent. I’m not sure what it is under the domes but i am sure it is up there. Need to get some of those tiny hygrometers. I don’t quite get how the humidity is that big of a difference between your tent and house. Are the plants big and producing humidity?

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Soak the whole pot! Just don't water it until the pot feels light again. The roots can't find water if there's none under then to find. You'll end up with a ball of roots 2" below the plant and none thru the whole pot.

The four plants I have in the tent are just mothers in poor shape I'll take clones off of then toss the mothers. I barely go in there other than to water them once in a while. Just not feeling the vibe the last few months and plan to take a break until later this year so my summer/fall is free for maybe going out to BC for a couple months or more to help my sister care for my 95 yo mom. She's got shingles now and my sister has been taking care of her on her own the last few years. Mom's not getting around so well now and has gone completely blind from macular degeneration.

DAY 3: just got up to go and water the seedlings but they were still moist from the spraying i did yesterday. I think i might have sprayed enough to get most of the container. Hopefully there is no dry spots. When the top dries out and feels decently light i will water fully till a little runoff.

OldMedUser said:

Soak the whole pot! Just don't water it until the pot feels light again. The roots can't find water if there's none under then to find. You'll end up with a ball of roots 2" below the plant and none thru the whole pot.

The four plants I have in the tent are just mothers in poor shape I'll take clones off of then toss the mothers. I barely go in there other than to water them once in a while. Just not feeling the vibe the last few months and plan to take a break until later this year so my summer/fall is free for maybe going out to BC for a couple months or more to help my sister care for my 95 yo mom. She's got shingles now and my sister has been taking care of her on her own the last few years. Mom's not getting around so well now and has gone completely blind from macular degeneration.

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Wow 95 years old. Must have had a good lifestyle. Sorry to hear she is having problems now.

kronicking421 said:

Wow 95 years old. Must have had a good lifestyle. Sorry to hear she is having problems now.

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Yeah, she grew up on a farm in southern Alberta and in those days and even when I was young there wasn't all the junk food and hyper-processed foods there is today. We always had a big garden and mom had the pantry full of home canned foods like fruits and veggies and even chickens in mason jars so we ate really healthy growing up. My sister came home from a trip to Cuba recently with Covid and now mom has tested positive for it as well but not felling sick from it. She's had all the shots so that must have helped. I've had all the shots too but haven't caught Covid yet, knock wood!

We lost my oldest little sister to ovarian cancer March 2020 so mom wants to go before me or my other sister do as she doesn't want to go thru that pain again. She'll make 100 I'm sure so I got to quit smoking and get back in shape so I outlive that tough old bird. I'll be 69 this Oct so no spring chicken myself.

DAY 4: the seedling seem to have grew a little but not much. I removed them from the heating pad ATM but will put back on if they are feeling cold as they are on a rack in my tent on the cold floor. I am still putting the humidity domes on them as the humidity is hovering between 18% to 23%.

DAY 5: doesn’t look like much happened. Put them back on the heating mat because they seemed to be a bit on the colder end. Looks like the top is really moist/wet still. Hoping it will dry up sooner than later. They are going to be staying without their domes on for the day. Depending on what happens i am thinking i am going to keep the domes off but we will see. I still think they are pretty young to be putting them in the low humidity environment.

Domes are for clones !

Cheers

DAY 6: again not much action. They seem kinda light and dry and top so i am going to give then a little water.

DAY 7: seems like they are finally starting to get comfy. Seems to me that taking them off the heat mat stalled them the other day and they seem to be happy being back on. Hopefully getting close to time to transplant her to the autopot. I am thinking 4 days max probably 3.

Posting pictures of the first 7 days one after another.

DAY 8: starting to see some decent growth. Pots are starting to get lighter so i am planning on watering them in a couple of hours. Not sure when i should start adding the REMO nutrients. I am thinking i should wait until after transplanting them into the auto pot. Haven’t looked into it but i think you need to do a couple of hand waterings after transplanting to the auto pot so I am thinking i am going to water with normal water than the second watering i am thinking about slowly adding nutrients. After the second watering i am going to turn on the pots.

OldMedUser said:

Don't worry about the tops drying up as there is lots of water further down. Keeping that top wet and not allowing things to dry down is what leads to root rot and other problems. If you dumped one of those pots out you'd find roots all over the place already reaching to or near the bottom.

That advice to water when it's dry one or two knuckles down is the old bro-science way to water and will just cause problems.

Maybe except for coco but I don't use that stuff partly for its needy and bothersome hassles about watering. I really don't see the appeal.

If your plants are inside it doesn't matter what the temp or humidity is outside. You want to make the best environment you can in your plant's grow space regardless of outside conditions.

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I was a promix user for 15 plus years...recently switched to coco and it was life changing...it blows promix out of the water. It is actually way easier then promix because of the ability to control the media so easily. It shaved 10 days of veg time...ive never seen roots as healthy as coco grown roots.

stnr420 said:

I was a promix user for 15 plus years...recently switched to coco and it was life changing...it blows promix out of the water. It is actually way easier then promix because of the ability to control the media so easily. It shaved 10 days of veg time...ive never seen roots as healthy as coco grown roots.

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Pictures ?

Cheers

stnr420 said:

I was a promix user for 15 plus years...recently switched to coco and it was life changing...it blows promix out of the water. It is actually way easier then promix because of the ability to control the media so easily. It shaved 10 days of veg time...ive never seen roots as healthy as coco grown roots.

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Ability to control the media? What does that even mean?

Coco costs twice as much as HP and I'd have to drive 2 hours to get it so those are dealbreakers for me as well.

10 days faster? What does that even mean? You can veg for days then flip or wait years if you want so faster veg time is meaningless. Want fast veg times the DWC is the way to speed that up.

I did buy one bag of Canna Coco and will do a little side-by-side eventually but I'll never switch from HP for general use.

kronicking421 said:

DAY 8: starting to see some decent growth. Pots are starting to get lighter so i am planning on watering them in a couple of hours. Not sure when i should start adding the REMO nutrients. I am thinking i should wait until after transplanting them into the auto pot. Haven’t looked into it but i think you need to do a couple of hand waterings after transplanting to the auto pot so I am thinking i am going to water with normal water than the second watering i am thinking about slowly adding nutrients. After the second watering i am going to turn on the pots.View attachment 5270206

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Are they just in promix alone? They should have some food or they will soon start looking hungry. I give them something like seaweed fertilizer when I first water in the seeds so there's something to feed on the second they get a root. With decent potting soil then there's enough food for the first while. I've also used 1ml/L each of my AN 3-part for babies too. It's about 300ppm at that rate.

Those auto pots are like a wicking system so water and nutes climb up a wick to keep the medium moist all the time aren't they? If so then the whole pot should be watered then it stays at the right moisture due to the wicking. I've never used them but have seen ones like that forever.

OldMedUser said:

Ability to control the media? What does that even mean?

Coco costs twice as much as HP and I'd have to drive 2 hours to get it so those are dealbreakers for me as well.

10 days faster? What does that even mean? You can veg for days then flip or wait years if you want so faster veg time is meaningless. Want fast veg times the DWC is the way to speed that up.

I did buy one bag of Canna Coco and will do a little side-by-side eventually but I'll never switch from HP for general use.

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Whats the matter charlie.....scared? I was just stating my experience...take it or leave it

chuckeye said:

Pictures ?

Cheers

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Not all of us have the luxury of legal grows....