Union extortion now illegal in Michigan

Well you're correct it wasn't my best. You know I am surprised with your writing skills why is it you can't keep a job? Oh that right I keep forgetting you grow eight thousand dollar plants. So Bucky what's the name of your business?



are you giving a grower shit on a pot advocacy website . . . are you infereing that it should remain illegal and people should not sell pot . . .

non cognitive is what you should have named yourself . . fucking NARC posser smoker
 
Well you're correct it wasn't my best. You know I am surprised with your writing skills why is it you can't keep a job? Oh that right I keep forgetting you grow eight thousand dollar plants. So Bucky what's the name of your business?

i'm keeping a job as we speak. several jobs, actually.

i'd love to see where i said i grew $8,000 dollar plants. please quote that post for me.

my best plant this summer harvested 2.5 pounds and is all gone. i could have got $8k for it if i lived in a regressive, incestuous shit hole such as you dwell in. but i prefer living in a progressive state with liberal cannabis laws and a lack of bible thumping southern bigot douchebags.
 
are you giving a grower shit on a pot advocacy website . . . are you infereing that it should remain illegal and people should not sell pot . . .

non cognitive is what you should have named yourself . . fucking NARC posser smoker

lol, non-cognitive. that fits him well.
 
are you giving a grower shit on a pot advocacy website . . . are you infereing that it should remain illegal and people should not sell pot . . .

non cognitive is what you should have named yourself . . fucking NARC posser smoker

LOL Is that what you got from what was said? You need to fucking chill on what ever it is you're taking it fucking with your comprehension and reasoning skills.
 
He wasn't even in on the same level of reality with his response you fucking quote it for justification lol, you're self destructing Bucky. DERP DERP

take your sister's dick out of your mouth and try again.

they're called periods and commas.
 
take your sister's dick out of your mouth and try again.

they're called periods and commas.


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Sounds like your pussy is starting to hurt something fierce.

no, i'm quite amused watching you.
 
Bummer, thought I'd miss something substantive of import to this thread. Was out on a call, 2 hour minimum, double time. Thank you organized labor. Why? Because I perform a service consumers need. And they pay what the market will bear. Same as a pro golfer on the circuit or a kiosk in the mall hawking nickel pencils. Consumers want a product and pay market rate.

Union labor views, more polite than my own.

"Our labor unions are not narrow, self-seeking groups. They have raised wages, shortened hours, and provided supplemental benefits. Through collective bargaining and grievance procedures, they have brought justice and democracy to the shop floor."
-- John F. Kennedy

"If any man tells you he loves America, yet hates labor, he is a liar. If any man tells you he trusts America, yet fears labor, he is a fool."
-- Abraham Lincoln


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"What does labor want? We want more schoolhouses and less jails; more books and less arsenals; more learning and less vice; more leisure and less greed; more justice and less revenge; in fact, more of the opportunities to cultivate our better natures, to make manhood more noble, womanhood more beautiful, and childhood more happy and bright."
-- Samuel Gompers

As politely as I can, once more. You want to dis unions, here on a cannabis cultivation site, in America, today? Bite me. Skilled craftsmen and women laboring with negotiated contracts still have work and support a family with one income. They have health, dental and vision insurance, legal insurance, retirement benefits, grievance procedures, defined hours of work, holiday and vacations, working conditions. This parts' easy, try and keep up pothead, unionized workers workers have it better in the workforce than non-union workers. So bite me, no really, fucking bite me. Like an abortion, peace out.
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my personal preference is to chose my own employment, not have it foisted upon me by some leftist agitator.

you may like unions, i dont.

i have been in 3 different unions on 5 different occasions, and it always sucks.

i prefer being the scab who crosses the picket line.
when the unions picket local supermarkets i go out of my way to cross their pickets.

i would pay money to see someone try and cross a picket line in Michigan ,, LOL
 
Bummer, thought I'd miss something substantive of import to this thread. Was out on a call, 2 hour minimum, double time. Thank you organized labor. Why? Because I perform a service consumers need. And they pay what the market will bear. Same as a pro golfer on the circuit or a kiosk in the mall hawking nickel pencils. Consumers want a product and pay market rate.

Union labor views, more polite than my own.

"Our labor unions are not narrow, self-seeking groups. They have raised wages, shortened hours, and provided supplemental benefits. Through collective bargaining and grievance procedures, they have brought justice and democracy to the shop floor."
-- John F. Kennedy

"If any man tells you he loves America, yet hates labor, he is a liar. If any man tells you he trusts America, yet fears labor, he is a fool."
-- Abraham Lincoln


"What does labor want? We want more schoolhouses and less jails; more books and less arsenals; more learning and less vice; more leisure and less greed; more justice and less revenge; in fact, more of the opportunities to cultivate our better natures, to make manhood more noble, womanhood more beautiful, and childhood more happy and bright."
-- Samuel Gompers

As politely as I can, once more. You want to dis unions, here on a cannabis cultivation site, in America, today? Bite me. Skilled craftsmen and women laboring with negotiated contracts still have work and support a family with one income. They have health, dental and vision insurance, legal insurance, retirement benefits, grievance procedures, defined hours of work, holiday and vacations, working conditions. This parts' easy, try and keep up pothead, unionized workers workers have it better in the workforce than non-union workers. So bite me, no really, fucking bite me. Like an abortion, peace out.

so in all those stirring quotes and fervid exhortations to keep the faith with jimmy hoffa jr et al., i missed the part where JFK or A Lincoln endorsed forcing someone to join a union, guild, collective, or affiliation even if they dont want to.

what part of the game is that?
 
i would pay money to see someone try and cross a picket line in Michigan ,, LOL

what? you think you can persuade me?

hardly.

or do you propose to attempt violence on my person?

i have scabbed, i do scab, i will scab in the future, nobody has yet developed a method to keep me from scabbing. perhaps you're the guy with the magic ticket?
 
so in all those stirring quotes and fervid exhortations to keep the faith with jimmy hoffa jr et al., i missed the part where JFK or A Lincoln endorsed forcing someone to join a union, guild, collective, or affiliation even if they dont want to.

what part of the game is that?
From my view, the only one forcing is management, employees not to organize. I missed that same endorsement too. What game? Why the politics of big business of course.
Dr., If you choose to labor, in my trade, at my employers place of business guess what. You join the union. Or not. Your choice. And if you're as scabby as you claim I would motion not to accept you as a member of my local.
 
Doc, so we have an open shop right to work state. My question is this. Is it fair, right, just, (pick a term), to legally require unions to accept as members and represent workers who won't contribute dues? Fuck no it's not. But...that's the real game. And it's not right any way it's spun.
 
Doc, so we have an open shop right to work state. My question is this. Is it fair, right, just, (pick a term), to legally require unions to accept as members and represent workers who won't contribute dues? Fuck no it's not. But...that's the real game. And it's not right any way it's spun.

not to mention the question: is it fair to legally require unions to accept as members and represent workers who will scab and undercut the wages of the union members?

people like kynes will say of course it is, their rights to do whatever trump everyone else's rights no matter what. their right to swing their fist need not end at your face, your face needs to be geographically situated elsewhere.
 
not to mention the question: is it fair to legally require unions to accept as members and represent workers who will scab and undercut the wages of the union members?

people like kynes will say of course it is, their rights to do whatever trump everyone else's rights no matter what. their right to swing their fist need not end at your face, your face needs to be geographically situated elsewhere.

I think of wanting an iPhone when ATT was the only carrier. Dude wants a job at a union shop and won't join.
ATT is legally required to give him service without paying because he has an iPhone.
Union is legally required to represent him without paying because he was hired by the employer.
 
I think of wanting an iPhone when ATT was the only carrier. Dude wants a job at a union shop and won't join.
ATT is legally required to give him service without paying because he has an iPhone.
Union is legally required to represent him without paying because he was hired by the employer.

when I as a worker negotiate a deal with a prospective employer to trade my time and skills for compensation thats between me and the employer.

when i worked in a vineyard tending cuttings and grafting rootstocks, i worked for the vineyard owner. when the "farm worker's union" came in to "organize" they tried to force me to work for their shitty union instead of the vineyard owner. result: the owner fired all his employees who joined the union, and those of us who were LOYAL stayed on. i worked for this vineyasrd for another 6 months or so, until the owner caved and accepted the shitty union. he doesnt have a vineyard any more. the union broke him, and that land is now part of an agricorp's holdings. nice job union. nice job.

and the agricorp is NOT part of the farm worker's union, they dont give a fuck about your shitty unions, really strong companies can simply tell unions to pound sand.

when i worked for a small farmer down south, i was a hired hand. when the union came in, i became an employee, and that farm went from a family run farm with a few full time hands to a "business" with seasonal migrant labour. nice job unions.

when i worked in a factory, i had to join the teamsters to operate the loaders, the teamsters did NOTHING for me, i got the same pay same benefits and same working conditions as i did before i joined the union, but i also got docked for their cut of the action. i took home LESS, and eventually the company shed it's union workforce and switched to part time temp service shclubs. productivity dropped but profits went up. nice job unions.

unions are crap. unions with the power to force their will on those of us who dont want their interference are just criminals with plenary indulgences.

i dont expect everyone to hate unions, but union boosters expect everybody to join with them or be cast out. unions are a cult, demanding complete acceptance of their doctrines or those who dissent are threatened with violence or excommunication. scabs at least have their dignity.
 
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