USA move closer to equality in wages

What will increasing the minimum accompish?

  • Make a lot of workers very happy, and boost the economy

  • Cost jobs and drive businesses into bankruptcy

  • Nothing

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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Corso312 said:
If I could train a monkey to do your job, I'm not going to pay you 15$ an hour.
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Train the monkey, then have a run in with the ASPCA, lol

You're missing the point; I give no fucks what you 'think the job is worth'. Either pay a decent wage, automate, eliminate it or do it yourself. Telling someone they aren't good enough to earn a living while they make YOU money is not acceptable behavior, whether you're a sole prop or Walmart. It's just naked greed- something that needs to change in this country, and laws are how we change things.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bluntmassa1 said:
Detroit, Michigan GM and Ford the parts are no longer manufactured in the USA. Dum Dee dum dum dumb...
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That had everything to do with changing the laws to actually SUBSIDIZE those companies and others for outsourcing the work.

Again, laws were changed to make the strategy attractive, and laws can change to make it unattractive- so Americans can work those jobs, earn those wages and pay the taxes. HERE, not in Mexico or China.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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MrRoboto said:
Minimum wage is for highschool kids and fuck ups. And you liberals think you are doing the world a solid. Ha laughable.

We need more money for zika
We need more money for poor
We need more money for retards

Greedy fuckers aren't ya...as long as it's someone else's money.
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You do relise that money is a myth right?

Its all just generated numbers.

All this "money" is everybodys. The government, which is us create it. Some people just tend to hold onto allot of it. They horde it. But money makes money if its being spent and going round and round. Trouble is it doesnt due to hoarders and greedy people who think others dont deserve it.

That paper money you have in your wallet is just that..paper. If everybody went to the bank and said i want all my money..the economy would collapse as the money is not there. It used to be put away in gold to cover the paper and the numbers on your bank account. Now the gold wont cover it.

Its all just a lie. But we all believe in the lie so therefore the paper has worth. If we think otherwise the economy is gone.

So its not someone elses money..its our money. If we use it wisely we can create more of it and the people (we are first and foremost People- a large tribe if you like) will be healthy and happy. Healthy and happy people tend to be law abiding. That means less jails and less inmates and less wasted money. Money that can then go into education and health and looking after the elderly and the disabled etc.

I read somewhere that there are more jails than university's in America. Thats way out of wack.


Little known fact. Rum was a currency in Australia for awhile. Govt did not like that.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MrRoboto said:
Minimum wage is for highschool kids and fuck ups. And you liberals think you are doing the world a solid. Ha laughable.

We need more money for zika
We need more money for poor
We need more money for retards

Greedy fuckers aren't ya...as long as it's someone else's money.
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You have absolutely no idea what my wage strategy is. All I can tell you is that I'd hate to work for you, so I'd do a lousy job and then bail without notice. You want respect? PAY FOR IT.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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ttystikk said:
You have absolutely no idea what my wage strategy is. All I can tell you is that I'd hate to work for you, so I'd do a lousy job and then bail without notice. You want respect? PAY FOR IT.
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Why would anyone want to pay a shitty employee like you at all? Employers do not pay for respect, they pay for performance. Maybe that is why you keep fucking it up?
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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NLXSK1 said:
Why would anyone want to pay a shitty employee like you at all? Employers do not pay for respect, they pay for performance. Maybe that is why you keep fucking it up?
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I pay them for their respect of my business and property. To respect me enough to do their jobs as best they can, to be honest, trustworhty and loyal (staff turnover costs money). To leave their daily problems behind whist they are work. In return I pay them a fair wage. Hell I often buy them all lunch or dinner.

Ive worked for people who did the same. They treated me with respect and I worked as best i could for them. I was paid fairly and treated well. It worked for them and it works for me.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MrRoboto said:
Yes we all want a trophy for participating. It makes us feel good inside
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Maybe, but we NEED jobs that pay actual wages, not a pauper's pittance because some fat lazy ass like yourself 'thinks it isn't worth that much'. What gives you the right to judge what someone's time is worth?
 
MrRoboto

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IF you wish to pay employees more money by all means pay em. As far as telling me what to pay someone well keep that to yourself. I have not drug or beaten or chained a soul. They all come willingly and are free to leave at any time. I'm pretty sure it works like that every where correct?

I wonder why the jobs are over seas again? Is it because we don't pay our help well enough?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Lucky Luke said:
I pay them for their respect of my business and property. To respect me enough to do their jobs as best they can, to be honest, trustworhty and loyal (staff turnover costs money). To leave their daily problems behind whist they are work. In return I pay them a fair wage. Hell I often buy them all lunch or dinner.

Ive worked for people who did the same. They treated me with respect and I worked as best i could for them. I was paid fairly and treated well. It worked for them and it works for me.
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And it doesn't make much difference what the job is, does it?
 
Padawanbater2

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MrRoboto said:
IF you wish to pay employees more money by all means pay em. As far as telling me what to pay someone well keep that to yourself. I have not drug or beaten or chained a soul. They all come willingly and are free to leave at any time. I'm pretty sure it works like that every where correct?

I wonder why the jobs are over seas again? Is it because we don't pay our help well enough?
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Because trade deals done by politicians that benefit corporate America allowed them to be shipped overseas at the poor and middle-classes expense

The real minimum wage hasn't increased since 1968. You can kick and scream as long as you'd like, this will happen whether you want it to or not.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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ttystikk said:
And it doesn't make much difference what the job is, does it?
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I dont give a rats arse what someone does to make a crust. It doesnt change the "person". Ive sold houses and cleaned toilets. in fact i still clean the odd toilet.
A worker should be able to live on their wage.

My father once said to me. "A man is worth his wage".
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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MrRoboto said:
IF you wish to pay employees more money by all means pay em. As far as telling me what to pay someone well keep that to yourself. I have not drug or beaten or chained a soul. They all come willingly and are free to leave at any time. I'm pretty sure it works like that every where correct?

I wonder why the jobs are over seas again? Is it because we don't pay our help well enough?
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Why would you want workers to leave? That costs money.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Lucky Luke said:
I pay them for their respect of my business and property. To respect me enough to do their jobs as best they can, to be honest, trustworhty and loyal (staff turnover costs money). To leave their daily problems behind whist they are work. In return I pay them a fair wage. Hell I often buy them all lunch or dinner.

Ive worked for people who did the same. They treated me with respect and I worked as best i could for them. I was paid fairly and treated well. It worked for them and it works for me.
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My response wasnt even to you. However, you can try to buy or rent whatever you want.

I pay my employees a fair wage and take care of them and in return they have respect for me. It is not something I try to manipulate with currency.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Because trade deals done by politicians that benefit corporate America allowed them to be shipped overseas at the poor and middle-classes expense

The real minimum wage hasn't increased since 1968. You can kick and scream as long as you'd like, this will happen whether you want it to or not.
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...and the economy will improve for everyone, even the plutocrats.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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MrRoboto said:
IF you wish to pay employees more money by all means pay em. As far as telling me what to pay someone well keep that to yourself. I have not drug or beaten or chained a soul. They all come willingly and are free to leave at any time. I'm pretty sure it works like that every where correct?

I wonder why the jobs are over seas again? Is it because we don't pay our help well enough?
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i'm gonna guess you are another one of these republicans with an imaginary business that is imaginary successful. like muyloco or analexcess.
 
UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
My response wasnt even to you. However, you can try to buy or rent whatever you want.

I pay my employees a fair wage and take care of them and in return they have respect for me. It is not something I try to manipulate with currency.
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you don't even have employees though.

why are you making all this shit up?
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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I think the big scare for business owners is because the min wage hasnt been raised in decades and inflation has risen quite a bit that the amount the hourly wage needs to go up scares them.

Min wage should always be tied to inflation and looked at a minimum 3 years and adjusted. Thats a fair system for all and granting someone a few dollars a week extra every year is not a big deal for the person paying it.

Our min wage in Australia is over seen by an independent body (fair wage tribunal) and they recommend the rate changers. Every few years when they recomend a change the business lobby groups say the usual stuff (same stuff they have said in this thread) "Business will go broke". "unemployment will rise" etc etc. It never happens of cause (unless the business is not an economically sound one and would of failed anyway) as inflation covers the costs.

The economics is sound. People spend disposable income. People spending money drives the economy. Thats why we have interest rates.
 
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