Using Gibbrellic Acid?

ronbud1963

Well-Known Member
Is there a way to produce female seeds using Gibbrellic acid?I have nothing but females in my room some at 3 weeks flower others at 2weeks.I dont have any seeds left so i would like to produce some if possible.Thanks in advance.Ps im willing to experament if info is good.
 

business

Active Member
You can force one to grow male flowers on itself by spraying it with gibb. acid, then u can pollinate one of the others when the male flower matured. If they are clones there's a chance that this won't work
 

forgewithinfire

Active Member
The chances that that would not work are very high. You are talking about a VERY specialized technique that can take years to perfect. I use Gibberelic Acid myself, but as a seed germination agent and I can tell you it is one of the most risky hormones to use on any plant. Even if you managed to get male flowers on a female plant you would most likely initiate stem-elongation to such an extent that your plants would die soon after. Gibberelic acid causes all growth to be suspended and redirected at cell elongation in the stems. If done during flowering with a solution that is not JUST right, the buds will stall and the stems may harden, preventing the quick cambian expansion that is needed for the ever-growing buds. The stems would strangle themselves. I used it on a clone to elongate the stems a but but it hardened them, in the end the top part (the best growth) began to become choked off and had to be taken as a large cutting to save it. In the end, stick to buying them yourself or taking clones...

Oh and gibberelic acid is incredibly powerful, what could fit on the head of a pin could be too much for some applications and it requires alcohol to be dissolved into solution making it even more of a pain to use.

If you ever want to use it to help with seed germination, send me a message, I posted a while back a whole how-to on the subject and it's good stuff to know...
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
colloidial silver will have the same effect and can be made from some silver dollars...

i'm too high to look up the info on specifically how to make it... but if someone else doesn't tell ya i'll give ya the links and whatnot in a day or so...

happy growin...

you can try flower your plant for an extended period of time... overrippen them if you will.... and most strains will throw some bananna's wayyyyyyyyy late in flower...

this is a very safe method to try=]
 

bicycle racer

Well-Known Member
i to have heard of colloidial silver as whey for fems to make seeds it can be bought or made. healthfood stores have it for human consumption its a natural way to kill many species of bacteria. romans put silver coins in there water supply as a way to keep it safe to drink. sorry useless info anyways very interested to hear if anyone has produced seeds this way.:mrgreen:
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
i'm sorry thats just one that shows you how to make the shit... wanna find out about using it with MJ sex reversal?

i'll have to go find another link...
 

Azgrow

Well-Known Member
you can use the cs or this one called sts
this is a recipe for STS...
Originally posted by Country Mon:

First, a stock solution is made. It consists of two parts (A and B) that are initially mixed separately, then blended together. Part A is ALWAYS mixed into part B while stirring rapidly. Use distilled water; tap water may cause precipitates to form.

Wear gloves while mixing and using these chemicals, and mix and use in a properly ventilated area. A mask will prevent the breathing of any dust, which is caustic. STS is colorless and odorless, and poses minimal health risks if used as described here. (See material safety data sheet links below). Note that silver nitrate and STS can cause brown stains upon drying, so spray over newspaper and avoid spilling.

Part A: .5 gram silver nitrate stirred into 500ml distilled water
Part B: 2.5 grams sodium thiosulfate (anhydrous) stirred into 500ml distilled water

The silver nitrate dissolves within 15 seconds. The sodium thiosulfate takes 30-45 seconds to dissolve.

The silver nitrate solution (A) is then mixed into the sodium thiosulfate solution (B) while stirring rapidly. The resulting blend is stock silver thiosulfate solution (STS).

This stock solution is then diluted at a ratio of 1:9 to make a working solution. For example, 100ml of stock STS is added to 900ml of distilled water. This is then sprayed on select female plants.


The STS working solution is sprayed on select female plants until runoff. Do the spraying over newspaper in a separate area from the flower room. You probably won't smell anything, but ventilate anyway. You now have what I call a "F>M plant"; a female plant that will produce male flowers.

After the F>M plant dries move it into 12/12 immediately. This is usually done three to four weeks prior to the date that the target (to be pollinated) plants will be ready to pollinate. Response times may vary slightly depending upon the strain. More specific times can be determined by trial with your own individual strains. In my trials it took 26 days for the first pollen. 30-35 days seems optimum for planning purposes.

So, assuming that a target plant needs 3-4 weeks to produce fully mature seeds, a strain that takes 8 weeks to mature should be moved into flower at about the same time as the female>male plant. A target plant that finishes flowering in 6 weeks needs to be moved into flower later (10 days or so) so that it doesn't finish before the seeds can fully mature.

A seeded individual branch can be left to mature on a plant for a bit longer, while harvesting the other seedless buds if they finish first. Just leave enough leaves on for the plant for it to stay healthy.

Effects:

Within days I noticed a yellowing of the leaves on the F>M plants. This effect persisted for two weeks or so; after this they became green again, except for a few of the larger fans. The plants otherwise seemed healthy. No burning was observed. Growth stopped dead for the first ten days, and then resumed slowly. No stretch was ever seen. After two weeks the F>M plants were obviously forming male flower clusters. Not just a few clusters of balls, but complete male flower tops. One plant still formed some pistillate flowers, but overall it was predominantly male.

It is strange indeed to see an old girlfriend that you know like the back of your hand go through a sex change. I'll admit that things were awkward between us at first.

When the F>M plants look like they may soon open and release pollen, ( 3-1/2 to 4 weeks) move them from the main flower room into another unventilated room or closet with lighting on a 12/12 timer. Don't worry too much about watts per square foot; it will only be temporary.

When the pollen flies, move your target plants into the closet and pollinate.

A more controlled approach is to isolate the F>M plants in a third remote closet (no light is necessary in this one, as they are releasing pollen now and are nearly finished anyway). In this remote other closet the pollen is very carefully collected in a plastic produce bag or newspaper sleeve and then brought back to the lighted closet, where the target plants are now located. If this is done, be careful to not mix pollen types by letting the F>Ms dust each other. Avoid movement, or use yet another closet.

Take special care to not let pollen gather on the outside of this bag- a static charge is sometimes present. Drop small open clusters of blooms inside and then close the bag at the mouth and shake. Important: next, step outside and slowly release the excess air from the bag, collapsing it completely, so that pollen doesn't get released accidently. Point downwind; don't let it get on your hands or clothes.

This collapsed pollinated bag is now very carefully slipped over only one branch and is then tied off tightly at the mouth around the branch stem with a twist tie or tape, sealing the pollen inside. Let the bag inflate slightly with air again before sealing it off, so the branch can breathe. This technique keeps the entire plant from seeding. Agitate the bag a bit after tying it off to distribute the pollen. Don't forget to label the branch so you know which seeds are which. Other branches on this same plant can be hit with different pollen sources.

If no lighted closet is available, the plant can be moved back into the main room, but- be very careful: pollen is sneaky. After 4-5 days, the bag is gently removed and the plant completes it's flowering cycle.

Yet another method has worked well for me. I position the target plants in a non-ventilated lighted closet, and then I collect pollen on a piece of mirror or glass. This is then carefully applied to the pistils of one pre-labeled branch by using a very fine watercolor paintbrush. Care is taken to not agitate the branch or the pollen. No sneezing. The plant needs to be in place first; moving it after pollination can shake pollen free and blow this technique.

Regardless of technique, at completion you will have feminized seeds. Let them dry for 2-4 weeks
 

bicycle racer

Well-Known Member
good info. i have heard you can also produce colloidial silver using water and electricity your method is pretty simple though.
 
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