Using Urine As a Fertilizer

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TheNatural

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Hemlock said:
TheNatural said:
Holy Shit..LOL..Tell'em Bro..that organic shit is just marketing.
I grew up on a farm. Row cropping. No way organic farming is sustainable for very long..to many variables..not stable enough
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Organic Farming would be perfectly sustainable for all genrations to come, IF the Farmers are properly educated on how to Sustain It, by natural and well balanced means.

It was done for thousands of years and never let them Fool Ya, into thinking that, we were the only ones with a big population to feed, because there was others as large, many moons ago on this planet.

" THEY " keep this knowledge from farmers by keeping them dependent on the " Man " for their agricultural needs and know how......or the lack thereof.....no disrespect, just honest.

There is a harmony and a way..........unfortunately......it is not taught in the schools and the colleges and the old that still remember bits and pieces of truth and real knowledge, are thrown to the side in homes ect. instead of being cherished, for the wisdom that they have and could share with those, that are not to " Smart " to listen.

Nature programmed us from our first breath, to intuitively know, how to work with her in a balanced and harmonious way.

However, the first time that our parents or elders, gave us language and a belief system ( religious,political,traditional, ect. ) and a chocolate chip cookie.........it started our path away from our intuition and led us on a path to understand things like ( ego,pride,gluttony,fear,anger ect.ect. ) and also mans sciences and his half witted ideas of how nature and the universe works, NOT REALISING, that man, knew from the start.......and was taught to forget.

There is Wisdom in knowing this.......I promise my friends.

Be Blessed,

Rev. TheNatural
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KaliKitsune

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"IF the Farmers are properly educated on how to Sustain It, by natural and well balanced means."

That's the problem. The laws of Thermodynamics (energy in, energy out, conversion losses, waste heat, etc) simply will not allow organic to be sustainable.

We can't beat the second Law of Thermodynamics. It applies to every system, including the economy - we call it a Return on Energy Invested. REI on soil organics is about 20-30%, depending upon so many variables that cannot be controlled. REI on chemical fertilizers in soil ends up at about 45% but again those variables kick in. Chemical hydroponics pulls a whopping 85% REI but sadly that is pretty much the theoretical maximum REI from fertilizers to food.
 
pinkus

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KaliKitsune said:
"IF the Farmers are properly educated on how to Sustain It, by natural and well balanced means."

That's the problem. The laws of Thermodynamics (energy in, energy out, conversion losses, waste heat, etc) simply will not allow organic to be sustainable.

We can't beat the second Law of Thermodynamics. It applies to every system, including the economy - we call it a Return on Energy Invested. REI on soil organics is about 20-30%, depending upon so many variables that cannot be controlled. REI on chemical fertilizers in soil ends up at about 45% but again those variables kick in. Chemical hydroponics pulls a whopping 85% REI but sadly that is pretty much the theoretical maximum REI from fertilizers to food.
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You certainly throw around a lot of numbers just to troll around an organic section. your returns here i would estimate at roughly 2%. GO to the chem. section to increase your yield by 5%.
 
Old Coot

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bigwheel said:
Well sounds like somebody has stumble over a copy of Mother Earth News. I was fertilizing onions with stale piss mixed with a little dirt back while Algore Jr. was still squirting mustard in his Pampers. Neighbors wouldnt eat em cause they could smell the piss when I fed em. Tasted good to me.
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Onions aye! Makes me wonder if asparagus makes piss smell....or is the pissed on asparagus that we are smelling in our piss!
LMAO!:eyesmoke:
 
KaliKitsune

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pinkus said:
You certainly throw around a lot of numbers just to troll around an organic section. your returns here i would estimate at roughly 2%. GO to the chem. section to increase your yield by 5%.
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I'm not trolling. Like another poster above me, I too grew up on a farm. We did organic. We did chemical. Organic just couldn't hang with what we needed. No bueno.
 
pinkus

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KaliKitsune said:
I'm not trolling. Like another poster above me, I too grew up on a farm. We did organic. We did chemical. Organic just couldn't hang with what we needed. No bueno.
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you're on an organic thread arguing against the very premise of the section we're chatting in...i.e. you are trolling for an argument. pretty much the definition of it i think.
 
Old Coot

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johnnychronic said:
interesting but im not convinced to take a piss on my lovely ladies!!!
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No dont do that. But, it works well at 1/4 cup to a gallon of water and wont smell when you feed nor as they dry out. Use the Ole Ladys piss if she doesnt freak out when you ask. Fem training for hopefully female plants during early veg. You are going to be surprised!:mrgreen:
 
MediMaryUser

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northeastern lights said:
Why, just why?:shock:
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cuz im sure a small amount of piss wont kill this plant and its just a male anyways but i did it just to see if it works it would be nice to know that if i ever run out of money and need to fertilize as a last resort i can mix pee in my water and i would only do that outdoors lol im not gonna go around pissin on my good lady clones im gonna be smokin on in 3 months
 
JonnyBtreed

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but the whole premise of growing your own weed is to avoid all the nasty crap other people put into it... Put it this way... if your friend smoked a big huge joint of good weed with you, and you asked him how he did it, and he said he pissed on it 3 times a week for 3 months, would you wanna smoke more???
 
MediMaryUser

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JonnyBtreed said:
but the whole premise of growing your own weed is to avoid all the nasty crap other people put into it... Put it this way... if your friend smoked a big huge joint of good weed with you, and you asked him how he did it, and he said he pissed on it 3 times a week for 3 months, would you wanna smoke more???
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as long as it is good bud i mean people put dead fish and sea shells and all kinds of crap into there soil mixes lol but if he was an indoor grower and was pissing and mixing to water his plants id probably have to stay out of his house but id most likely smoke it if it was 100% normal but just got pissed on lol
 
FrontaLobotomy

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The ammonia in the urine helps plants rather well. But as stated, it's a nasty premise when it comes to smoking the fruits of your labour.
 
MediMaryUser

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nuggetgrower said:
Me too. Wow. never thought I'd see the sad day people were mixing pee and water and feeding their plants.

I'm strangely tempted to try it though.
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ahahahhahahahahha thats what i said hahah no reason to try it tho i mean your a big ass hippie if your recycling your pee and thats cool but wow
 
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