Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated
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Phytoplankton
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Which, in the article is followed by this statement:
There were no appreciable between-group differences in the time to PCR conversion or culture conversion according to vaccination status,
ActionianJacksonian
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Right? But did you notice the lines for positive culture for groups vaxxed and boosted are extended a little further down the day scale past day 10 than the unvaxxed group though?
It may not be appreciable in your view but I bet it is to folks who were beat with batons during lockdowns.
ActionianJacksonian
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If there's no significant difference in transmission and you are vaxxed please explain who is "causing damage to others".
The vaccine is extremely safe and very effective. This thread is bullshit death cult spam.
Thanks in advance.
berrygarcia
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a health research organization based at the University of Washington School of Medicine looked at several dozen studies concerning covid-19 vaccination and infections, and concluded that vaccines reduce the risk of infection.
Unvaccinated catch covid at higher rates than vaccinated; infected people of course spread covid, not uninfected people.
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Unvaccinated catch covid at higher rates than vaccinated; infected people of course spread covid, not uninfected people.
COVID-19 vaccine efficacy summary | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
To project future COVID-19 trends, IHME uses the available data on vaccine efficacy, summarized here.
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Phytoplankton
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From an author of the report you cite: “Our data do not suggest that vaccinated people recover more slowly from COVID-19,” Siedner added. “Quite the contrary: we found no significant difference by vaccination status (unvaccinated, vaccinated or boosted) in the time from a first positive test until PCR testing or viral cultures from nasal specimens became negative.”
I'll give you this, you must have a strong back, considering how often you move the goal post. Peace, out!
someone making a thread about covid isnt breaking the rules though, name calling, threats of violence, etc is
theres a different, if i had to moderate threads on misinformation half of the grow forum would be shut down .
ActionianJacksonian
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C'mon man, heres the fact. Not a joke:
At day 10 positive culture is 400% for the boosted vs unvaccinated.
No joke. Two words: I have dementia.
PJ Diaz
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Context matters.
You would do better to include the entire paragraph, and then you might see that the "groups" they are referring to are groups based on covid strain (ie: delta vs omicron), not vaccination status:
The characteristics of the participants were similar in the two variant groups except that more participants with omicron infection had received a booster vaccine than had those with delta infection (35% vs. 3%) (Tables S1 and S2 in the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org). In an analysis in which a Cox proportional-hazards model that adjusted for age, sex, and vaccination status was used, the number of days from an initial positive polymerase-chain-reaction (PCR) assay to a negative PCR assay (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.61; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.33 to 1.15) and the number of days from an initial positive PCR assay to culture conversion (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.77; 95% CI, 0.44 to 1.37) were similar in the two variant groups (Figure 1A through 1C and S1 through S3, and Tables S3 through S5). The median time from the initial positive PCR assay to culture conversion was 4 days (interquartile range, 3 to 5) in the delta group and 5 days (interquartile range, 3 to 9) in the omicron group; the median time from symptom onset or the initial positive PCR assay, whichever was earlier, to culture conversion was 6 days (interquartile range, 4 to 7) and 8 days (interquartile range, 5 to 10), respectively. There were no appreciable between-group differences in the time to PCR conversion or culture conversion according to vaccination status, although the sample size was quite small, which led to imprecision in the estimates (Figure 1D and 1E)..
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Phytoplankton
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And the statement by the author that says there is no correlation: "Quite the contrary: we found no significant difference by vaccination status (unvaccinated, vaccinated or boosted) in the time from a first positive test until PCR testing or viral cultures from nasal specimens became negative.” You have to remember that the person who Tweeted is an anti-vaxer who was fired for failing to observe the UC protocols for vaccination. That person is a psychiatrist, not an immunologist. Peace out!
ActionianJacksonian
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There is no significant difference between gold and mercury.
PJ Diaz
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LOL, he isn't an anti-vaxxer, he's a Medical Ethicist who had already acquired natural immunity by way of a previous infection.
Kheriaty vs. University of California
From the Brownstone Institute BY AARON KHERIATY Shortly after I published the Wall Street Journal piece arguing that university vaccine mandates were unethical, the University of California, my emp…
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PJ Diaz
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Regardless the story was written by the Doctor in question himself, in which he explains his reasoning for not taking the jab; it's not because he's an anti-vaxxer, which is unfortunately anti-vaccine-choice propaganda being spread in an attempt to discredit him and the study itself.Brownstone Institute
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ActionianJacksonian
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It literally is propaganda though. If you think some people should get the vax if they want it because that's prolly their best option but it's not for you personally they you're labeled anti-vaxx.
Basically if you oppose the jab mandate you're anti-vaxx.
Basically if you oppose the jab mandate you're anti-vaxx.