Visiting Amsterdam

I've always been a little skeptical of online seed purchases, especially when most dont/can't accept PayPal. But...I'm going to be in Amsterdam this Friday and Saturday.
I'm thinking of going to a seed shop smoke cafe and making a cash purchase in the shop and have them ship it to my alternate address using a different name.
This seem like a decent plan?

Most banks will not ship to the US, but you can ship it to yourself though. If you don't want a Amsterdam postmark go to Rotterdam and mail it from there. Been 13 years since I've been there, good times.

petert said:

I've always been a little skeptical of online seed purchases, especially when most dont/can't accept PayPal. But...I'm going to be in Amsterdam this Friday and Saturday.
I'm thinking of going to a seed shop smoke cafe and making a cash purchase in the shop and have them ship it to my alternate address using a different name.
This seem like a decent plan?

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How can you be so skeptical when you see testimonies from hundreds upon hundreds of people on this very site who order, receive, and grow seeds regularly? Clearly its not a scam if you go to a reliable seedbank with a good track record.

I would be much more concerned about mailing something out of Amsterdam. I bet the chances are more likely of what you send from Amsterdam getting snatched up, than the super stealth packaging from so many seed banks.

just put them in your pocket??

just be prepaired depending on where your flying into and out of.. you will get searched unless your flyin with a female companion

Buy a snickers bar and jam a bunch in there.

What does the ability to pay through paypal have to do with the legitimacy of a seedbank?

And if you're going to buy some in amsterdam, why not just them in a pair of socks in your suitcase or such?

Are you there yet? Hahaha. You'll love it there. Stop by any tourist/touring shop and you can pick up a pamphlet strictly for cannabis tourism that has all the shops listed on them.

Besides Bulldog and Greenhouse check out Bluebird. Just watch out for that insanely tight spiral staircase at Bluebird. I've seen quite a few people slip on them.
I agree on trying to bring a gf along.
About the PayPal thing, it shouldn't deter you. Just order from one of the big banks and get guaranteed shipping.

petert said:

I've always been a little skeptical of online seed purchases, especially when most dont/can't accept PayPal. But...I'm going to be in Amsterdam this Friday and Saturday.
I'm thinking of going to a seed shop smoke cafe and making a cash purchase in the shop and have them ship it to my alternate address using a different name.
This seem like a decent plan?

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they do search when u fly out of amsterdam. at least they did me and my pals. and i have to agree with everyone else, sending yourself seeds is riskier than ordering them. and if i did try to hide them in my luggage, it would be out of the breeder packs and (as another poster said) the beans hidden in socks. maybe each strain in a different sock to keep them apart. oh well good luck!

If you're flying in through an international flight your person and baggage are subject to inspection, including by dogs trained to sniff out contraband.

If you really want a foolproof way to smuggle a few seeds, you can try enclosing them in a tied balloon or condom then swallowing them like a dope mule. Obviously you need to "retrieve" them later.

(Yeah, I didn't really want the seeds that badly either!).

Should read "can be subject to inspection" because i certainly wasn't subject to any form of search when i got on my international flight in Schiphol

Amsterdam sucks, its all mass produced garbage. I went in 2008 for the cannabis cup. I left after 4 days out of a 18day trip. Left and went home. The herb is JUNK! I hear if you go to rotterdamn/harrlem the herb is better. However Amsterdam is a tourist trap, you have to figure they need enough weed every day of the year to supply all the locals/tourists.....

the 2-4 euro weed cakes got me higher than the 20-30 euro a gram herb, oh and i quit a month before I went to amsterdam.

depends what you buy when you buy it and who you buy it from. At cup time, the number of people flooding in means that a. they don't really care if it's mass produced, they just need to get people high, and 2. there's not enough good stuff for everyone to be smoking it. Treat it like any place on the planet, let's use Cali as an example, you can buy good stuff, you can buy shit stuff, all depends who you know when it is and where you are. Locals are all probably sat there toking on some top shelf weed laughing at all the tourist uying the bunk

I found the weed in Amsterdam to be very strong. I was able to stay during the cup and after. The Cup is a site for tourists but that doesn't mean that Amsterdam weed is bad. Quite the contrary since they've been magnates in horticulture for centuries.
It's also a place you can go for the food - french fries, pancakes, cheese. Try their chocolate and visit a regular bakery.
Restaurant service/experience and food was surprisingly good there.

tip top toker said:

Should read "can be subject to inspection" because i certainly wasn't subject to any form of search when i got on my international flight in Schiphol

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You don't know what sort of searching your checked luggage may have been through after you checked it. International flight luggage can be scanned, sniffed by dogs, and I believe even opened and physically inspected.

Search of your person going out is basically just limited to make sure you don't have concealed explosives or weapons. Believe me, nobody is going to care if you are taking cannabis seeds OUT of Holland!

To the extent that security searching should be a concern, it would be in bringing the seeds into the USA, not OUT of another country.

I most definitely have been questioned by customs agents coming back into the USA from Amsterdam, and pretty much every time I've come back from an international flight. I think I've also had my bags opened and searched. Questioning may seem benign, but these guys are trained to read body language, and if you seem nervous (for some reason) that's a "clue".

I have also seen Customs leading leashed beagle-dogs around the airport sniffing people's luggage in the international return terminal. I don't know exactly what the dogs were trained to sniff, but you figure at least some of them have probably been trained to sniff out cannabis. Since the seeds come from buds, I'd imagine they're potentially sniffable.

Now in practice, without a pretty meticulous searching it would be hard to locate a few seeds, especially if well hidden.

On the quality of weed in Amsterdam, that's entirely dependent on where you buy and from whom. There is plenty of good stuff to be had, if you know where to find it.

The first time I was there, I learned why the Europeans mix their weed with tobacco before rolling it into cigarettes. A few puffs of the good stuff, and you're on your ass!

You don't know if i even had check in luggage

And i've taken air rifles, ounces of weed, you name it, all in check in luggage, it get's through just fine be it through honk kong international or you name it. My point is that it is not all luggage is subject to searches, some, not all. You use the word "can" you are making my point for me.

Last time I came home from Amsterdam there were police dogs at the bottom of the escalator in Atlanta, GA.

when i went to amsterdam, i simply flew in and out of germany, which i highly recommend as it's only a few hour train ride from germany, and you're not going to be getting looked at nearly as hard as you would if you were to fly in and out of amsterdam itself imo..

i bought seeds in amsterdam and brought them home no problem in my luggage.. won't get into all of the details here, but if anyone would like to know, simply pm me and i'lll gladly tell you how... i'll just say that if you go into most of the soft drug shops in the damn, and even some of the t shirt places, they sell something perfect for smuggling seeds back into the us for like 2 euro or so... i bought two of them, stuffed them with seeds i bought, and put them where they belonged.. took the train back to frankfurt in germany, flew back into the states and never got looked at twice..

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You don't know if i even had check in luggage

And i've taken air rifles, ounces of weed, you name it, all in check in luggage, it get's through just fine be it through honk kong international or you name it. My point is that it is not all luggage is subject to searches, some, not all. You use the word "can" you are making my point for me.

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Of course.

*IF* your stuff gets through, you're fine.

*IF* your bag happens to one of the ones searched, and *if* you're convicted of simple possession of cannabis in Hong Kong, the penalty is up to seven years in prison. If they get you for "trafficking" that's potentially LIFE in prison.

Your ass, your choice.

Now the fact is, yes, this sort of scrutiny can be *highly* variable and in practice, I'd imagine that most contraband does make it through.

With checked bags, airport security (which is not the same as customs) is mostly concerned about explosives. They don't give a rat's ass if you have an air rifle in your checked bag that's utterly inaccessible to you or anyone else during the flight. You don't even get access to your checked bag back until you're in the non-secured part of the terminal, where literally anyone could walk in the front door with a machine gun anyway. Airguns, also, are perfectly legal to possess in most of the world.

I've actually gone through international flights with LIVE AMMO in my checked bag. I wouldn't try that deliberately in the post 9-11 era, but I'm sure it happens not infrequently.

Customs is more interested in finding smugglers with huge sums of money, significant amounts of hard drugs, dangerous weapons, etc. A few cannabis seeds really are small potatoes to them.

So again, in practice, you'll *probably* get away with smuggling a few seeds in from Holland or where-ever, especially considering how easy it is to hide something that small. Unless you give them a reason to, customs isn't going to spend an hour cutting open every seam in every garment, breaking open every battery, ripping out the soles of your shoes, etc. But if they had a good reason to do so, they could do it.

Again, the biggest giveaway is probably your body language telling them that you're nervous or hiding something.