we should make a tobacco sub forum
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Home grown tobacco would obviously be better than the crap they sell pre-rolled at the gas station in pretty packaging.
I know nobody gleans much into this but that other stuff isn't really tobacco, it used to be tobacco, but then they made it into a pulp along with the floor sweepings, added 596 additional chemicals to it, pressed it into sheets like paper and shredded it. Most of the tobacco grown around the world these days is also radioactive. It's no secret that there is Polonium-210 in the finished product, but nobody seems to be bothered by it.
I know nobody gleans much into this but that other stuff isn't really tobacco, it used to be tobacco, but then they made it into a pulp along with the floor sweepings, added 596 additional chemicals to it, pressed it into sheets like paper and shredded it. Most of the tobacco grown around the world these days is also radioactive. It's no secret that there is Polonium-210 in the finished product, but nobody seems to be bothered by it.
Mr. Bongwater
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should just make the thread i made on tobacco a sticky or something
H.M. Murdoch
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I'd like an armed, well-trained professional first responder ALREADY THERE when the next deranged person walks into a school with an assault rifle and 20 full clips.
H.M. Murdoch
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After all, we have armed guards at banks. There are armed guards at my workplace. There are armed guards at the mall.
All these are good. So why not have armed guards at schools, which house more valuable things than a bank, my workplace, or the mall?
H.M. Murdoch
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OK, I went to the dentist today for my regular cleaning. Since I'm a former tobacco user, I always have the Invisilite procedure done (it detects microscopic lesions that could turn into cancer).
Anyway, the dentist told me about a tobacco chewer/smoker who came into his office last month with a white spot on his tongue the size of a dime...turned out to be tongue cancer...and had already spread to the lymph nodes...prognosis: he has 18-24 months to live, IF he decides to go through the ABSOLUTE HELL of surgery, followed by chemo, followed by radiation.
So the final 18-24 months of his life will be spent with no tongue (from surgery), no tasting his food or drink (from radiation killing his taste buds), and constant nausia (from chemo).
But hell, he exercised his right to chew/smoke, and so he will go down as a hero for being his own person, right?
Wrong. He'll be remembered as a fucking selfish weakling who gave his life to tobacco over his family who loved and needed him.
His wife will get over it in a few months, when she finds a nice non-smoking man to fuck. She won't know what to think about the ecstasy of having male-induced orgasms without having to smell the sick stink of a smoker's body on top of her.
She'll forget all about her husband after that.
TakeTheTicket
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Holy fuck dude. Not all of us smoke that much, and it's not cool to be talking about someone's wife like that... even if you made it up. Totally inappropriate.
LIBERTYCHICKEN
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A tobacco sub-form is a great idea ,, Afterall this is a smokers/growers form
Tobacco historically has a very simmilar past to MJ with reguard to the laws, many times understanding the past policys can greatly influnce ones stance on the subject.
After reading most of the former posters posts, Im alittle surprized you would treat tobacco users the same/simmilar way as the current .gov/socity treats MJ users. History truely does repeat itself
We all know the negative aspects of tobacco use . But how many know the postive aspects .......
Parkinson’s disease. The frequency of this degenerative disorder of the nervous system among smokers appears to be half the rate among nonsmokers – an effect recognized by the Surgeon General as along ago as 1964.Alzheimer’s disease. Similarly, the frequency of this degenerative mental disorder has recently been found to be as much as 50%less among smokers than among nonsmokers for example, by the H studies reviewed in the International Journal of Epidemiology in 1991.Endometrial cancer. There is extensive and long-standing evidence that this disease of the womb occurs as much as 50% less among smokers as documented by, for example, a New England Journal of Medicine article back in 1985. The triggering mechanism appears to be a reduction of estrogen levels.
Prostate cancer. Conversely, smoking seems to raise estrogen levels in men and may be responsible for what appears to be a 50% lower rate of prostate cancer among smokers, although this needs corroboration.
Osteoarthritis. This degenerative disorder of bone and cartilage is up to five times less likely to occur among heavy smokers as documented, for example, by the federal government’s first Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
Colon cancer, ulcerative colitis. These diseases of the bowel seem to be about 30% and 50% less frequent among smokers as documented, for example, by articles in the Journal of the American Medical Association and in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1981 and 1983, respectively.
Other benefits that have been suggested for smoking: Lower rates of sarcoidosis and allergic alveolitis, both lung disorders, and possibly even acne. Smokers are also lighter ironically, because obesity is a leading cause of the cardiovascular disease that smoking is also supposed to exacerbate. So you could quit smoking and still die of a heart attack because of the weight you put on.
None of these health benefits is enough to persuade doctors to recommend occasional cigarettes, in the way that some now occasionally recommend a glass of wine.
thats not it either theirs tons of other benifits , Just like federal MJ research grant money is avaible to study the negative aspects but nothing else
Did you know the ebola vacine is some type of a extract from a GMO tobacco plant .
Anyone still smoke blunts, It wold be nice to have a place to discuss growing wrappers and binder .
The drying/cureing/fermenting/flavoring/processing is all very simmilar but the tobacco industrys are lightyears ahead of the MJ industry , so much to be learned . Look at the DIY tobacco sites you will be astounded
Fair trade tobacco
How to grow tobacco
Tobacco historically has a very simmilar past to MJ with reguard to the laws, many times understanding the past policys can greatly influnce ones stance on the subject.
After reading most of the former posters posts, Im alittle surprized you would treat tobacco users the same/simmilar way as the current .gov/socity treats MJ users. History truely does repeat itself
We all know the negative aspects of tobacco use . But how many know the postive aspects .......
Parkinson’s disease. The frequency of this degenerative disorder of the nervous system among smokers appears to be half the rate among nonsmokers – an effect recognized by the Surgeon General as along ago as 1964.Alzheimer’s disease. Similarly, the frequency of this degenerative mental disorder has recently been found to be as much as 50%less among smokers than among nonsmokers for example, by the H studies reviewed in the International Journal of Epidemiology in 1991.Endometrial cancer. There is extensive and long-standing evidence that this disease of the womb occurs as much as 50% less among smokers as documented by, for example, a New England Journal of Medicine article back in 1985. The triggering mechanism appears to be a reduction of estrogen levels.
Prostate cancer. Conversely, smoking seems to raise estrogen levels in men and may be responsible for what appears to be a 50% lower rate of prostate cancer among smokers, although this needs corroboration.
Osteoarthritis. This degenerative disorder of bone and cartilage is up to five times less likely to occur among heavy smokers as documented, for example, by the federal government’s first Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
Colon cancer, ulcerative colitis. These diseases of the bowel seem to be about 30% and 50% less frequent among smokers as documented, for example, by articles in the Journal of the American Medical Association and in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1981 and 1983, respectively.
Other benefits that have been suggested for smoking: Lower rates of sarcoidosis and allergic alveolitis, both lung disorders, and possibly even acne. Smokers are also lighter ironically, because obesity is a leading cause of the cardiovascular disease that smoking is also supposed to exacerbate. So you could quit smoking and still die of a heart attack because of the weight you put on.
None of these health benefits is enough to persuade doctors to recommend occasional cigarettes, in the way that some now occasionally recommend a glass of wine.
thats not it either theirs tons of other benifits , Just like federal MJ research grant money is avaible to study the negative aspects but nothing else
Did you know the ebola vacine is some type of a extract from a GMO tobacco plant .
Anyone still smoke blunts, It wold be nice to have a place to discuss growing wrappers and binder .
The drying/cureing/fermenting/flavoring/processing is all very simmilar but the tobacco industrys are lightyears ahead of the MJ industry , so much to be learned . Look at the DIY tobacco sites you will be astounded
Fair trade tobacco
How to grow tobacco
H.M. Murdoch
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Sorry man, I disagree. That doesn't make me right or you wrong. It just means I disagree.
And quit smoking while you still can.
So my story was disturbing/shocking/over-the-line? Good. That means it hit home.
potroastV2
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I've heard enough about this topic, thanks for the suggestion.
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