Weak drooping branches

70-75 degrees F. 30-35% humidity. Plant is about 2 weeks into flowering getting 2500 lumens (roughley) of light. ph is 7ish.

Saw one branch yesterday morning kinda going astray from the rest of the bush, didn't think anything of it. Later the branch was hanging down, I felt the stem of the branch and it was extremely weak. Today I woke up and found a few more weak look branches as well as the entire plant looking droopy. The bud sights seem not very tight and droopy with the rest of the plant. I can't explain it much more, the branches are basically so weak that they are falling and it all just happened within 48 hours.

I watered yesterday when I noticed the problem, it was time to water and I figured that was the cause, but judging by what I saw today I was not close to correct.

Here's some pics appreciate any advice or ideas, peace and love.

Pull the plant and check the roots for binding. The main causes of all-over drooping include overwatering, heat stress and root binding.

I say overwatering. And if you have 2500 lumens your gonna need more light. my guess is youve got some cfl's as an hps or mh light would be giving you more lumens. the sun is 10,000 lumens per square foot. So assuming your grow space is only one square foot (not likely) you've only got 1/4 of the light that the sun puts out. Say its 2 square feet, youve only got 1/8th of the light that the sun gives.

What kind of lights you running, wattage and such?

To droop that quick and fast i would say over or under watering or possibly heat. Quite severe droopoing you got there.

could be under or overwatering. only you know
or, you vegged too long for that pot. it may be gettin rootbound

Yo,

2500 ish lumens is not going to surfice for plants of that size.

I run 16000 lumens/ sq ft & often think that I could use more.

You may have reached the point where the plants require more light to take growth further.

Hence, the drooping leaves.

Whether you water it enough or too much, is a secondary concern. Buy a 150 watt HPS for around 40 bucks and reap the glory.

Looks like underwatering but heat and root issues, as mentioned, could be the problem. I would guess it's a combination. If I were to try to save that plant I would up-pot it immediately and get it more light as soon as it bounces back.

I water once the top soil is almost bone dry. water until i get a drip or two out of the bottom holes. I can't check root boundidness as I am currently not home however I did change the pot size when flowering began so I am doubtful of that but I will be checking. The light is an issue I know, but could the light so suddenly make the plant droop like this? I've had it in this same light situation since it began flowering. All the lighting is coming from cfl's and a flourescent fixture.

So it sounds to me like lighting...?

That kind of drooping isn't caused by insufficient light. We've left plants in dim light and total darkness for many weeks and what happens is the lower leaves die off but the whole plant doesn't droop.

brendanb said:

I water once the top soil is almost bone dry.

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It does sound like you're overwatering. The top third or so of the soil should usually be bone dry before watering. Healthy, mature plants living in otherwise good conditions can survive all of the soil drying out completely for many days.

hmmm. good information, +rep. overwatering sounds like it could be the culperate then because it was almost bone dry when i watered it yesterday the and after the watering it seemed worse.

HOWEVER
It did begin drooping before I last watered and the watering before last there was no drooping at all. basically what i'm trying to say is i noticed the drooping starting with almost bone dry soil.

Root binding symptoms get worse after watering. Try to find someone to check the roots for you, if you can't do it yourself. If it is root bound, it would have to be transplanted soon, assuming it's not already too late. Root binding stops root growth and if it progresses too far before transplanting, it can become irreversible. The plant can still be alive but may slowly die because it isn't replacing the dying roots, or at least not fast enough.

id must that poor thing with a little water myabe water with a little H202

So i had my girlfriend go check it today since I am not home. she sent me this picture and it looks pretty grim....
I think I'm going to flush it and see what happens but I'm expecting it to die. I could still use advice if anyone has seen this before so i can keep it from happening to my next plant

side note: notice the sexy blackberry bush... yum

It almost looks like someone watered it with weed killer.

It is a sad sight indeed

I water with water and superthrive. no weed killers. UNLESS I WAS SABOTAGED!

Basically Bren, address both your lighting and resist watering for a little longer from now on & you got yourself some sweet ass, happy plants

NOTE

If that big, droopy bastard in the middle is smelling terrible, I'm going to advise saving yourself the time & worry of trying to nurse it. Chop him down & share the extra love with your other, healthier looking plants. It's what I do when I get a turd in the punch bowl & I never look back

NICE blackberry bush! Lol

Blackberries be where the real honey at

everyone's thinking over water, what about branches turning spongy and dropping late in flower in DWC ?
you would think its been in a steam bath the way some of them feel and sag .
humidity stays around 40-45 temp no higher than 8o indoor.