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Mad_Prophessor
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You thinking a little Santa's Beard?Hold the boat man. That looks fine. I believe it is a good sign and your soil is doing really well. I think the white soil web signifies beneficial doing their thing. Im tagging @hyroot he can tell you for sure.
SomeGuy
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I just know soil can web and it is considered a good thing in organics. I run a semi organic feeding with hydro medium so wth do I know. LOL . I do know thats not a pest. Usually mites will only attack plants that have more to offer.
Mad_Prophessor
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If you have never used it, how would you know if it smells? I use a sulfur vaporizer and never think about the problem. You don't need something toxic to solve the problem.
chuck estevez
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I have used it, and it works like all the other stuff on the shelf at the hydro store, it gets rid of it for about a week, but then it comes back. It also smells like nasty sour milk, just like dude says.
go smell a bottle of serenade, smells just like it.
HydroRed
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Well, I guess I cant argue it because I've never had to use it. Just as a heads up for anyone wanting to use this method- use skim milk and not whole milk. My understanding is that the whole milk is what stinks for indoor use. Many claim no smell at all with skim milk.
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gardengardian7
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I'm not criticizing anyone on the post whatsoever. Just the fact that you all took time to stop by this post shows care and concern and yes the turd joke did get a nice chuckle out of me. But the truth is youre over loading your life with stress. And to go out of the way for this grow attempt and having to do prevention methods for your grow on sprouts just kinda displaces your opportunity to grow as a grower. This situation will set you back. You instincts just wants a clean fresh stable smooth going grow. So what I think you should do is:
#Get an organic bag of seedstarter like Espoma...
#Get you some of the small party cups that was mentioned from the grow friend above.
#Do the run off first in your cup-pots. This will keep the seeds from sinking further deeper. Which will prolong gemination.
#Then plant your seeds from the tip of your finger to the first crease or fold of the finger.
#Put them in a secure place like in a dark box where theres is some air flow around the box until they sprout. And you can even start them on the 18/6 lighting cycle that works too.
#make sure you have your vegging soil and your 1 to 2 gallon pots as well because after two to three weeks your going to want to transplant for your actual first month of veg to flower. You know what I mean... like the first 28 days is your seedling maturety and the second set of 28 is the first actual mature month of vegging. And for good yeild plants must be very mature with good root systems... So starting them in small cups for their first 2 to 3 weeks then trans-p into the 1 gallon. If they grow fast and vigorous before their official first month is over then immediately trans-p to 3gallon pots. And after the three either 5g or 7g. And as far as this grow of mold and fungus I wouldnt trust that soil for outdoors. But obviously you did not have proper air flow which would have prevented that. Thus too much moister in big pots starting seeds is not so wise of a choice when you want yo raise good healthy plants. Thus the tap roots would shoot straight down deep before really offsprings or side roots start shooting from the main root causing a lousy foundation and root system which I do believe causes root boud and rot quicker than it would a healthy root system would. This is only my experiences and opinion. I'm just sitting at your table on your thread. I hope this was good info for you. Good Spirits and New Clean Sanatized Start. This is exactly how I did my grow I'm doing now. 8 weeks Veg and 1st week of flower.
#Get an organic bag of seedstarter like Espoma...
#Get you some of the small party cups that was mentioned from the grow friend above.
#Do the run off first in your cup-pots. This will keep the seeds from sinking further deeper. Which will prolong gemination.
#Then plant your seeds from the tip of your finger to the first crease or fold of the finger.
#Put them in a secure place like in a dark box where theres is some air flow around the box until they sprout. And you can even start them on the 18/6 lighting cycle that works too.
#make sure you have your vegging soil and your 1 to 2 gallon pots as well because after two to three weeks your going to want to transplant for your actual first month of veg to flower. You know what I mean... like the first 28 days is your seedling maturety and the second set of 28 is the first actual mature month of vegging. And for good yeild plants must be very mature with good root systems... So starting them in small cups for their first 2 to 3 weeks then trans-p into the 1 gallon. If they grow fast and vigorous before their official first month is over then immediately trans-p to 3gallon pots. And after the three either 5g or 7g. And as far as this grow of mold and fungus I wouldnt trust that soil for outdoors. But obviously you did not have proper air flow which would have prevented that. Thus too much moister in big pots starting seeds is not so wise of a choice when you want yo raise good healthy plants. Thus the tap roots would shoot straight down deep before really offsprings or side roots start shooting from the main root causing a lousy foundation and root system which I do believe causes root boud and rot quicker than it would a healthy root system would. This is only my experiences and opinion. I'm just sitting at your table on your thread. I hope this was good info for you. Good Spirits and New Clean Sanatized Start. This is exactly how I did my grow I'm doing now. 8 weeks Veg and 1st week of flower.
gardengardian7
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So much eazier... for sure
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Xephier
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Ya, I had the dome over them so that would be what made for the "lousy air circulation". I also started in bigger pots than I should have although they weren't really huge pots or anything I should have perhaps went a bit smaller. The pots I used were about 500ml give or take.
Mad_Prophessor
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I have done a lot more than just read up on it. It works, it just smells terrible. There are a lot of things we use as growers that don't smell good that work well. This is just another item to add to the list. In all actuality, people tend to stray away from the milk just for the smell issues with it. WE have progressed as growers over the years and have found more effective ways to rid ourselves of PM. Milk, like most remedies only works for a limited amount of time. To really get to the source and stop it, you need sulfur vapor. There is no way around it. It doesn't harm the plants and is a final solution. WE may not have been using it for 50 years, but it works like nothing else (and kills parasites). My advice to you, try something before you suggest somebody uses it. Otherwise, you just come off as a troll that is lacking experience but well stocked up on assumption.
Xephier
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Well, he did have a point about it being readily available to most people so it'd do in a pinch but it doesn't matter. Since I've started giving the plants air(took the dome off) the fungus has not come back but that plant has not grown at all, the seed barely made it over the surface. I think it's a lost cause. I did learn some with this grow cycle though so it's not all for nothing at least. Plus 5 out of 9 of them look promising.I have done a lot more than just read up on it. It works, it just smells terrible. There are a lot of things we use as growers that don't smell good that work well. This is just another item to add to the list. In all actuality, people tend to stray away from the milk just for the smell issues with it. WE have progressed as growers over the years and have found more effective ways to rid ourselves of PM. Milk, like most remedies only works for a limited amount of time. To really get to the source and stop it, you need sulfur vapor. There is no way around it. It doesn't harm the plants and is a final solution. WE may not have been using it for 50 years, but it works like nothing else (and kills parasites). My advice to you, try something before you suggest somebody uses it. Otherwise, you just come off as a troll that is lacking experience but well stocked up on assumption.
Mad_Prophessor
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Just let them grow. It won't hurt anything to give them a little time to do what they do. Be patient.
gardengardian7
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Very respectable!I have done a lot more than just read up on it. It works, it just smells terrible. There are a lot of things we use as growers that don't smell good that work well. This is just another item to add to the list. In all actuality, people tend to stray away from the milk just for the smell issues with it. WE have progressed as growers over the years and have found more effective ways to rid ourselves of PM. Milk, like most remedies only works for a limited amount of time. To really get to the source and stop it, you need sulfur vapor. There is no way around it. It doesn't harm the plants and is a final solution. WE may not have been using it for 50 years, but it works like nothing else (and kills parasites). My advice to you, try something before you suggest somebody uses it. Otherwise, you just come off as a troll that is lacking experience but well stocked up on assumption.
gardengardian7
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What would be good lso is to churn the dirt in the pots around the perimeter and somewhat close to the stems about 2 inches from the stem for aeration and oxygen and less mositure retention. Just make sure you water them as needed. Dont let them dry out. You see how they have the compaction look?! Dont loosen the seedling though...
Xephier
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I actually did what you said and churned the dirt around a bit cuz it made sense to loosen up the soil a bit(and I've been kinda wanting to anyways). I just hope that don't stress the plants or anything, I mean I wasn't gouging around the roots but I did end up moving the plants just a little when doing that.
Mad_Prophessor
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A little plant wiggle is no big deal. If you gouged the stalk, that would be a problem. You will be fine. Give them some time.
gardengardian7
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Yea a little plant shuffle...lol Yea the wiggles' no biggie... Just make sure you dont go deep in soil. Just at the surface to brake up the compaction so that air can pass through the surface and penetrate deeper to provide oxygen for the roots. And gentleness is a key need as well.