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Green Cross · Aug 25, 2009

Green Cross said:
51st day (12/12)
I'm pleasantly surprised to see the sativa leaning strain ripening up early (mostly cloudy w/some amber trichs). I'm not seeing as much frost as I would've liked, but the humidity has been high, and I need to pick up some new damprid ASAP

Anyhow It's time to start flushing all except the gigabud, and the BMS; as soon as the containers dry out. This will most likely be the 4 bagseeds final watering before harvest. These 4 are now over 5 months old, and this may explain their early maturity.

The 2 indica - from bag seed - look more and more like 2 different varieties. #1 looks and smells like pink grapefruit, and #2 has thicker foliage, and has more of a diesel smell. I had always assumed these 2 came from the same bag, and that the differences were simply variations within the strain, but as the buds ripen up I see more differences between them.

Most the clones have been transplanted (roots looked healthy), and 2 were fimmed yesterday, as soon as they started pushing out new growth.

I'm still having slight heat issues (and leaf curl) in the veg cab, so I plan to either increase the size of the PC case exhaust fans to 140 mm, and eventually build a 400W MH vegging tent. Either way the clones will probably need to veg 3 or 4 more weeks, so that I can take cuttings before flower this time.

Sativa leaning bagseed #2
Smell lemon with pine and skunk undertones

Sativa leaning bagseed #1

Indica #1

Indica #2

The sativa in the green container got her first flush today (5 gal plain water). I cut off a small piece of bud to examine it more closely. Not as many cloudy trichs on this one, but she should be ripe within a couple weeks, and any residual fertilizer will hold her over until harvest.

Comments welcome :peace:

DoeEyed · Aug 25, 2009

Green Cross said:
The sativa in the green container got her first flush today (5 gal plain water). I cut off a small piece of bud to examine it more closely. Not as many cloudy trichs on this one, but she should be ripe within a couple weeks, and any residual fertilizer will hold her over until harvest.

Comments welcome

Wow! Your girls are beautiful, I'm so jealous! :weed:

I'm not even close to my harvest yet. About how much do you average dry per plant?

Green Cross · Aug 25, 2009

DoeEyed said:
Wow! Your girls are beautiful, I'm so jealous! I'm not even close to my harvest yet. About how much do you average dry per plant?

I know the feeling, the anticipation, while watching everyone else harvest! :wall:

My past grows were pathetic in comparison, so I'm only guessing... a couple oz per plant?

Green Cross · Aug 25, 2009

I just learned that black buds in the final weeks of ripening point to diesel strains! Still hoping for grapefruit diesel or red diesel. Chop chop time very soon.

I also just found a stash of seeds from some hash tasting bags of high-grade from a couple summers ago :weed:

newbieneedshelp · Aug 26, 2009

Green Cross said:
I just learned that black buds in the final weeks of ripening point to diesel strains! Still hoping for grapefruit diesel or red diesel. Chop chop time very soon.

I also just found a stash of seeds from some hash tasting bags of high-grade from a couple summers ago

Great grow man. I just learned of CMH bulbs and they meet my needs to a T. I was wondering what brand of ballast your running? Also what type of reflector? Thanks man

skunkman98536 · Aug 26, 2009

nice greeen!!!

how long u flower the satavias?

Green Cross · Aug 26, 2009

newbieneedshelp said:
Great grow man. I just learned of CMH bulbs and they meet my needs to a T. I was wondering what brand of ballast your running? Also what type of reflector? Thanks man

Hey there newbieneedshelp, these bulbs run on HPS but only magnetic ballasts - not digital. The reflectors are cool tubes

skunkman98536 said:
nice greeen!!!

how long u flower the satavias?

hey skunk, The sativas I expected to go much longer, but these are already ripening up @ 50 days (mostly cloudy with a few amber). Maybe they're hybrids? I vegged them for almost 3 months, so maybe that helped them mature early; they were both putting out flowers long before I switched to 12/12.

I cut a couple tops out of the indica (the flushed one) today, and took another close look at the trichs. They're near peak. I'm thinking about doing a staggered harvest - taking the tops first, and letting the lower buds ripen-up with the extra light... the tops of these plants are very dense.

The other 3 bagseed get flushed tomorrow - as long as the soil has finally dried out. BMS and GB get bloom nutes and molasses.

newbieneedshelp · Aug 26, 2009

Green Cross said:
Hey there newbieneedshelp, these bulbs run on HPS but only magnetic ballasts - not digital. The reflectors are cool tubes

hey skunk, The sativas I expected to go much longer, but these are already ripening up @ 50 days (mostly cloudy with a few amber). Maybe they're hybrids? I vegged them for almost 3 months, so maybe that helped them mature early; they were both putting out flowers long before I switched to 12/12.

I cut a couple tops out of the indica (the flushed one) today, and took another close look at the trichs. They're near peak. I'm thinking about doing a staggered harvest - taking the tops first, and letting the lower buds ripen-up with the extra light... the tops of these plants are very dense.

The other 3 bagseed get flushed tomorrow - as long as the soil has finally dried out. BMS and GB get bloom nutes and molasses.[/QUOT
I was wondering what brand of ballast you were using sir. I was orginally going with cfl but i think i could do cmh. Im not a big fan of hps for certain reasons. Do you fell happy with your choice going with cmh? also our your buds dense? Thank you!

jeffchr · Aug 26, 2009

subscribed - looks like a lot of fun

Green Cross · Aug 26, 2009

jeffchr said:
subscribed - looks like a lot of fun

Thanks for stopping by jeffchr

The next set of pics should look pretty juicy :weed:

Green Cross · Aug 26, 2009

newbieneedshelp said:
I was wondering what brand of ballast you were using sir. I was orginally going with cfl but i think i could do cmh. Im not a big fan of hps for certain reasons. Do you fell happy with your choice going with cmh? also our your buds dense? Thank you!

But the CMH bulbs I'm using are a conversion bulb that run in a HPS ballast. They don't go in a MH ballast. As far as I'm concerned MH is obsolete

I really would have to go look to say for sure, but these ballasts basically all have the same internal parts. If I had it to do over again I'd buy the ballast kits and house them in old ammo boxes, or a PC case with a couple fans in it, and pocket the extra money.

The bud structure looks fine, but I plan to do a side by side comparison next grow.

Take care

nj10ii · Aug 26, 2009

skunkman98536 said:
Im subscribed!

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Dude, back in the 80's the Dr's told us year after year that my sister wouldn't make it past that Xmas. The year they stopped telling us, we thought that maybe that was the year to worry... (it wasn't) It took 10 more years for her cancer to finally get the better of her. God bless her.

Green Cross · Aug 27, 2009

nj10ii said:
Dude, back in the 80's the Dr's told us year after year that my sister wouldn't make it past that Xmas. The year they stopped telling us, we thought that maybe that was the year to worry... (it wasn't) It took 10 more years for her cancer to finally get the better of her. God bless her.

I hear you loud and clear! Without getting into too much personal detail; my bro has responded really well to treatment, and what started out as a death sentence (6-9 months) has now turned into the possibility of living 6-7 years, or longer! Hopefully Illinois will get it's act together and pass the medical marijuana bill - set to be taken up by the house again this summer. 12 rounds of Chemo plays havoc on your nervous system, and the weed really helps take the edge off, and helps with the nausea as well. He has a lot of folks praying for him as well, and we all remain positive.... take care, and sorry to hear about your sister

Green Cross · Aug 27, 2009

Day 54 and all is well

I was finally able to flush the other 3 bag-seed, and that may be their last watering, as harvest time approaches. :clap:

The others got their last fertilization - strait water from here out.

Here's the indica that smelled like diesel last week, although I was too busy to do much bud sniffing today. These aren't the greatest pics, but they'll have to do...

Indica #2

Indica #1

Stadium shot - BMS (left) Gigabud (right)

DJ Shorts - Blue Moonshine (kickass genetics)

Sativa leaning bagseed

Comments welcome

Dr. Greenhorn · Aug 27, 2009

Pics look nice!

Green Cross · Aug 28, 2009

Dr. Greenhorn said:
Pics look nice!

Thanks for the kind words Dr. but I wish I had a better camera with macro. I'll probably be able to pick up one on sale during the holidays :peace:

To take macro shots I use a magnifying glass or 2 (doubled-up) and electrical tape them to the front of the lens.

Here are some up-to-date closeups:

UI-2

UI-1

Green Cross · Aug 28, 2009

Gutted PC cases & speaker wire

Looks kind of ghetto, but not as bad as cardboard

These will only hold the bagseed buds, the gigabud cola will be harvested whole, and it's nearly 2 feet long :weed:

Paper clips are used to hang the buds from the wire

This is the first bud from this harvest
taken from Indica #1

The uppermost buds will be harvested first - especially on these heavily LSTed plants - so that more light can penetrate the canopy and ripen the lower buds

skunkman98536 · Aug 29, 2009

lookin great!!

hows everything smellin! ahah

Green Cross · Aug 29, 2009

skunkman98536 said:
lookin great!!

hows everything smellin! ahah

As a whole; Like a skunks ass lol

The blue moonshine smells like blue berry syrup at ihop

The indica still has a strong grapefruit smell, with some fresh paint, and diesel fuel undertones.

The sativa leaning ladies are more complex, and floral, with skunk undertones :weed:

I've decided to try to gather some female pollen - while I still have time - so that I can hopefully do some breeding next year.
I chose the purple phenotype for this experiment, foremost, because of the coloration, and the fact that she is not as far along in flower as the others. She has good branching, and cola structure, and she was shorter than average. She survived separation from her twin sister (both from 1 seed), in the 1st week, and then she was stunted early in flower when I dropped her on her side - nearly snapping her off at the soil.

I sprayed her down thoroughly with aspirin water (1 alka-seltzer in 1 qt of water), and then allowed her to to dry-out with a fan (so that her buds don't rot). I'll repeat this process in a week (if necessary), and hopefully she'll be pushing ripe male flowers by harvest time (within 3 weeks).

In case you have no idea what I'm doing here: I found this: "To induce male flowers in female plants, the plants are sprayed with gibberellic acid or watered (or sprayed) with an aspirin/water ...

If all goes well the females will push male flowers, I'll collect the pollen, and make 100% feminized seed on the next blue moonshine grow. I'm hoping the genetics weren't damaged too much during the clone from flower screw-up.

Same plant

Green Cross · Aug 29, 2009

Let's take a look at the blue moonshine

See BMS-P (purple) in the above post

BMS-3 has the most desirable traits out of the 6 considdering bud formation, bud sites, vigor, inter-nodal spacing, stockiness etc.

BMS-1
Another great looking plant, although it scored lower overall in vegetative growth

BMS-2 showed too much stretch

BMS-S (twin) was an average plant which also stretched too much for my liking. The buds are kind of puny

BMS-4 was the tallest and fastest growing of the group, she also put out the largest cola. :weed:

Gigabud

Blue mooshine (BMS) Canopy shot

Sativa leaning unknown strain canopy

Comments welcome :peace:

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