What are Biden's foreign policies?

Choco8

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The notion that Gabbard is supported by Russia is nonsense, like 99% of the RussiaGate bullshit regurgitated for the last 4 years by the idiots in the "Resistance", who are only bested in their moronic conspiracy theories about Putin by their flip image - the "Stop The Steal" fools.

Why do you expect the US, led by Obama and now Biden, to support a regime like that?
I don't expect them to support it, that's a red herring that suggests we have a right to be there in the first place. We don't. I want them to GET OUT, and end this illicit war started by Obama. What I would like is for the USA to stop invading, bombing, and sanctioning countries on an extremely selective basis. Short version: The USA has no right to interfere, unless you still believe in the World Cop model.
So, don't call it a documentary, it was an infomercial.
lmao. I guess we'll just have to disagree on the nature of this video.
 

Fogdog

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President Joe Biden

What a wonderful sound to that. Sounds clean and free from corruption.

Oh, and, Black Lives Matter

Also, so sorry for all the elderly in Russia who will be hit first by the economic sanctions that will be levied onto Russia due to Putin's interference with our elections. I do regret that they will feel the hurt when Putin just sits in his multibillion dollar palace. Have you seen reports on that? It's an awesome palace. Has its own airport, concert hall, ice rink, gym, several pools and sits on thousands of acres of well groomed, irrigated and manicured palace grounds.

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Choco8

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It's an awesome palace.
That Hope and Change guy is set up pretty nice too. The guy that said "He'll let it play out" while Native Americans were getting hosed down at Standing Rock with freezing water and having dogs set upon them.

I'm not sure what the point of this is, but yes : "leaders of superpowers have big mansions".
due to Putin's interference with out elections
I guess I missed that, other that Rachel Maddow saying "Russia Russia Russia" a trillion times. What exactly did they do? Can you be super-specific in detailing how they altered the results? Or was it those devastating Facebook Memes?




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Fogdog

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The notion that Gabbard is supported by Russia is nonsense, like 99% of the RussiaGate bullshit regurgitated for the last 4 years by the idiots in the "Resistance", who are only bested in their moronic conspiracy theories about Putin by their flip image - the "Stop The Steal" fools.



I don't expect them to support it, that's a red herring that suggests we have a right to be there in the first place. We don't. I want them to GET OUT, and end this illicit war started by Obama. What I would like is for the USA to stop invading, bombing, and sanctioning countries on an extremely selective basis. Short version: The USA has no right to interfere, unless you still believe in the World Cop model.

lmao. I guess we'll just have to disagree on the nature of this video.
I said that Gabbard is Putin's apologist. Assad's as well. Both are war criminals and Kamala Harris was absolutely correct when she called Gabbard out for apologizing for Assad the War Criminal.

The US has allies in that area and Assad is not one of them. Assad and Putin will just kill them all if given the chance. I agree with you that the US should eventually leave but what to do with people the US has allied itself with? Why not stay and try to cut a better deal for our allies?

"The illicit war" was not started by Obama. It was started by Shrub. ISIS was a direct outcome from Shrub's war on Iraq. Iran supported ISIS and it grew into a fighting force that took over major areas of Iraq and eventually parts of Syria. Are you saying: Leaving Iraq with ISIL/Iran in power would have been a better option for the US than supporting the government of Iraq to defend itself? Are you saying: Leaving south eastern Syria for Assad to do what he will with Kurdish and rebel militias who are holed up there is in the US's interest? Please explain.
 

Choco8

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I said that Gabbard is Putin's apologist.
You can say that all day long, and it doesn't make it true. Same for the Trump/Putin idiocy. It's all propaganda for low-info liberals, which is why MSNBC has been pumping it out for 4 years straight. Again...where is the PROOF?
I agree with you that the US should eventually leave but what to do with people the US has allied itself with? Why not stay and try to cut a better deal for our allies?
No...not eventually. NOW. Staying in Syria is going to be as beneficial to Syria as the US staying another 18 years in Afghanistan is to Afghanistan. Funny how leaving is never an option, isn't it?
 

Fogdog

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lmao. I guess we'll just have to disagree on the nature of this video.
lulz. Just admit that you posted a propaganda hit piece. I laid out reasons why it is. Now you say "I don't want to talk about it". You posted propaganda, got called out for it and now you want to pretend it didn't happen.

The notion that Gabbard is supported by Russia is nonsense, like 99% of the RussiaGate bullshit regurgitated for the last 4 years by the idiots in the "Resistance", who are only bested in their moronic conspiracy theories about Putin by their flip image - the "Stop The Steal" fools.
Who said that "Gabbard is supported by Russia'? I said that Gabbard is supporting Assad and Putin, both of whom ARE war criminals. That propaganda piece you posted criticized Kamala Harris for speaking the truth about Gabbard. I'm just pointing out that Kamala Harris quite factually and quite rightly dismissed everything Gabbard has said on this subject because at the root of it, Gabbard is apologizing for Assad's crimes against humanity.

Regarding "Russiagate". Turmp sold this country out and you know it.
 

mooray

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I don't doubt that Russia trolled FB and that it had a real world impact, it's just that ultimately I don't care, because if all it takes is some trash media to make us eat each other, then that's what we deserve.
 

Fogdog

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You can say that all day long, and it doesn't make it true. Same for the Trump/Putin idiocy. It's all propaganda for low-info liberals, which is why MSNBC has been pumping it out for 4 years straight. Again...where is the PROOF?
Why not stay and try to cut a better deal for our allies? You must know that Assad and Putin are going to massacre them if they get the chance.
 
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Fogdog

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That Hope and Change guy is set up pretty nice too. The guy that said "He'll let it play out" while Native Americans were getting hosed down at Standing Rock with freezing water and having dogs set upon them.

I'm not sure what the point of this is, but yes : "leaders of superpowers have big mansions".


I guess I missed that, other that Rachel Maddow saying "Russia Russia Russia" a trillion times. What exactly did they do? Can you be super-specific in detailing how they altered the results? Or was it those devastating Facebook Memes?




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You seem to be getting angry and irrational.

LOL at the false equivalence: Obama's home vs Putin's palace.

LOL at the bizzarre Madow vid. Trump in fact was helped by Russian government intelligence to benefit him personally. It's called a bribe. Trump doubled down and tried to bribe Ukraine to a personal favor. He was impeached for that. In case you didn't know it already.
 

Fogdog

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You can say that all day long, and it doesn't make it true. Same for the Trump/Putin idiocy. It's all propaganda for low-info liberals, which is why MSNBC has been pumping it out for 4 years straight. Again...where is the PROOF?
lulz

Gabbard said the Sarin gas attack that Assad perpetrated on civilians was a false flag. She's not just apologizing for Assad, she's lying.
 

Choco8

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Just admit that you posted a propaganda hit piece. I laid out reasons why it is
lmao
You posted a picture of Putin's Palace as if it makes some kind of brilliant point. You think RussiaGate is a Real Thing. Please don't give lectures about "propaganda". And you have yet to provide any proof of...anything. Just more propaganda and repetition. It's boring AF.
 

Fogdog

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lmao
You posted a picture of Putin's Palace as if it makes some kind of brilliant point. You think RussiaGate is a Real Thing. Please don't give lectures about "propaganda". And you have yet to provide any proof of...anything. Just more propaganda and repetition. It's boring AF.
Actually, the Mueller Report kind of ends the discussion about "Russiagate" being a nothing burger.

Assad using Sarin gas is a war crime. Gabbart defended him. A video that only discusses one side of an issue and falsely accuses Kamala Harris of doing wrong to Gabbard for saying the truth about Gabbart defending a war criminal (Assad) -- fits the term "propaganda". If you don't like the truth, maybe you should not post here.
 

schuylaar

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That Hope and Change guy is set up pretty nice too. The guy that said "He'll let it play out" while Native Americans were getting hosed down at Standing Rock with freezing water and having dogs set upon them.

I'm not sure what the point of this is, but yes : "leaders of superpowers have big mansions".


I guess I missed that, other that Rachel Maddow saying "Russia Russia Russia" a trillion times. What exactly did they do? Can you be super-specific in detailing how they altered the results? Or was it those devastating Facebook Memes?




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they didn't alter our results; they set up click-bait for the intellectually impaired.
 

schuylaar

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Actually, the Mueller Report kind of ends the discussion about "Russiagate" being a nothing burger.

Assad using Sarin gas is a war crime. Gabbart defended him. A video that only discusses one side of an issue and falsely accuses Kamala Harris of doing wrong to Gabbard for saying the truth about Gabbart defending a war criminal (Assad) -- fits the term "propaganda". If you don't like the truth, maybe you should not post here.
what's with all the white with her and Ivanka..if they're trying to be subliminal political virgins- it's a fail.
 

Choco8

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Actually, the Mueller Report kind of ends the discussion about "Russiagate" being a nothing burger.
The one that found no collusion ? Yes, it sure did.
Assad using Sarin gas is a war crime.
You actually have to prove he did that. You haven't. Simply repeating things doesn't make them factual.
If you don't like the truth, maybe you should not post here.
And there we have it : "I am the arbiter of what is truth" lmao
 

Fogdog

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The one that found no collusion ? Yes, it sure did.

You actually have to prove he did that. You haven't. Simply repeating things doesn't make them factual.

And there we have it : "I am the arbiter of what is truth" lmao
Gaslighting was over-used by Trump. It doesn't work any more.

I suppose you deny that Navalny was poisoned by Putin's agents too.
 
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