What are these spots?

Raven121415

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"""Even when applied fresh, rabbit manure will not burn plants. Gardens with rabbit fertilizer consistently applied most often yield much better results! Because of this, gardeners may be willing to pay for manure or composed manure for a higher cost. Because of the complimentary nature, many rabbit raisers also raise earthworms (or Red Wigglers)."""

from your link ^^^ it looks like you got a deficiency then like the guys above said, looks impossible to toxic and you haven't feed them for 2 weeks ..... so deficiency of what the guys said above ^^^ would be my assumption.

update us all with the results of the fix :) if not update us for the result of the death plant just for a laugh.



hope this helps :lol:
I stopped with the tea because around here flowering has just begun. I noticed quite a stink and small hairs beginning. I wanted to switch to something lower in N, but keep the PK values the same so I am switching to duck manuer. She is still as green as she has ever been, so I wasn't really worried about nute deficiency.
 

Raven121415

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Do you have a soil analysis? I see on the tomato to the right a blaring calcium problem. I think this is calcium issue and it may be that there is too much water and not enough drainage. I would drill a lot of holes in that pot.
No analysis. I used Miracle Grow Moisture Control mixed 50/50 with compost. Feed great through most of the 1st 2 months, then I began adding the crushed bunny pellets, and watering with tea for imediate nute uptake. Now she is just feeding from the fresh manuer for another week or so until I begin the duck poo tea for the remainder of flowering.
 

Raven121415

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I use neem oil from garden safe (found at Walmart and Lowes) it works well as a preventative for mould, mildew, and some insects. I've since switched to Einstein oil its the same in a sense, neem oil is its main ingredient. Hindsight being 20/20 I'd wish I had gotten dynagro neem oil, because I use protekt from Dynagro. Protekt is an emulsifier, also a silicon supplement, it helps keep things mixed, with added benefits of making plants more resistant to drought, heat and stress, it also thickens cell walls to help naturally fight against pest and disease. You also want a good surfactant. Many use dawn dish washing liquid. I use non concentrate myself, just a drop. Any neem oil should help. Make sure plants aren't under any kind of stress water wise, more so, if you think they need water, water them before treatment. I just learned that the hard way. Plants were slightly under watered, and I hit them hard with oil. Burnt leaves and stress was the result. Be careful, start small, and may the grow gods bless you.
Thanks! I will be getting cal mag supp today as well as the neem oil. Any suggestions where I can find Protekt? I live in a VERY large farming community, and we don't have many stores to chose from without driving an hr or so away. I have places like Big R, Tractor Supply, Rural King, Walmart, Ace Hardware, ect to chose from around here. Lol Also, would a regular surfactant work? I work on my family's dairy farm and have regular access to it. Lol We use it with Roundup for our fields and around the farm.
 

johnp410

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Thanks! I will be getting cal mag supp today as well as the neem oil. Any suggestions where I can find Protekt? I live in a VERY large farming community, and we don't have many stores to chose from without driving an hr or so away. I have places like Big R, Tractor Supply, Rural King, Walmart, Ace Hardware, ect to chose from around here. Lol Also, would a regular surfactant work? I work on my family's dairy farm and have regular access to it. Lol We use it with Roundup for our fields and around the farm.
I ordered mine off of amazon. Its one of the biggest natural elements in the earth. Native soil should have plenty of silica in it already, of course I'm sure its more or less depending on location. I think you can use green sand, rice hulls, or purchase it in a bottle lol If you live in a farming area I'm sure you can find it somewhere. If there's someone your comfortable with asking about it.
http://www.cannabis.info/gb/abc/10005474-the-marvels-of-silicon
That's a good read about silicon supplements. It was first thing that popped up when googled.
 

Raven121415

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Well, she was nice and green and healthy looking, then I see this. Yellowing of the fan leaves mainly, plus white spots. I am using a Calcium, Magnesium, Vitamin D suppliment in capsule form. I add 2 capsules to every water.
 

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I should also mention I used Bonide Tripple Super Phosphate about a week or so ago. Could this have caused a lockout? If so am I screwed or can I fix this?
 

Doc McPuffins

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Ok so I'm somewhat new to all of this and my plant has been doing good up till about 4 days ago. Its white widow strain and I haven't changed my routine at all but I've noticed some of the bottom leaves look like r dying I just started flower stage last week and I woke up one morning to this. I was told to use calmag and I was also told I was burning it with to much nutes. Any suggestions
 

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Raven121415

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Ok so I'm somewhat new to all of this and my plant has been doing good up till about 4 days ago. Its white widow strain and I haven't changed my routine at all but I've noticed some of the bottom leaves look like r dying I just started flower stage last week and I woke up one morning to this. I was told to use calmag and I was also told I was burning it with to much nutes. Any suggestions
I can't really help myself, but there are definitely some highly knowledgeable folks here on RIU that can definitely help! You will have to give a bit more info though. More pics, what nutes, how often given....that sort of thing. I am about 3 the end of my 3rd week flowering myself. Good luck, and happy growing!
 

Doc McPuffins

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I do know there is a lot of helpful information flowing on this site that's why I recently became a member. Haha I have been feeding once ever 3-4 days with the ff trio about 1 gal every time and everything has been ok until a few days ago. I'm also using ffof soil I'm workin on a routine with the one plant so come next season I will know what to do when I run into a jam. I know the soil itself is packed with nutes so maybe I just need to dall back to once a week feed and maybe dilute the nutes a bit. Any info will help I will post more pics tomorrow
 

slownickel

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Losing leaves at this stage is normal. It means you don't have too much N. Likewise, the droopy older leaves are telling you that there is too much water down deep. Apply less water. Keep the top humid but don't soak them so much.
 

Kidbruv

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Losing leaves at this stage is normal. It means you don't have too much N. Likewise, the droopy older leaves are telling you that there is too much water down deep. Apply less water. Keep the top humid but don't soak them so much.
Losing leaves isn't normal in a healthy plant. It may be telling you that you don't have enough N. Though that seems hard to believe considering the large amounts of fertilizer.

The OP mentioned earlier in the thread that pH doesn't matter. This may be a bigger issue than any nutrient dosage issue. pH is critical and just as important as in a hydro/soilless grow. Could be pH level is locking out some nutrients.
 

Raven121415

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Losing leaves at this stage is normal. It means you don't have too much N. Likewise, the droopy older leaves are telling you that there is too much water down deep. Apply less water. Keep the top humid but don't soak them so much.
I actually haven't wattered in over a week. I am in NE Indiana and we have had so much rain I didn't think they needed anymore than mother nature had already provided. I suppose now that I say this, this could be the cause of my cal def. I just didn't really think it would hit that fast so I was concerned of salt build up. Maybe I will add cal mag suppliment with much less water than usual and see if it helps.
 

Raven121415

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Losing leaves isn't normal in a healthy plant. It may be telling you that you don't have enough N. Though that seems hard to believe considering the large amounts of fertilizer.



The OP mentioned earlier in the thread that pH doesn't matter. This may be a bigger issue than any nutrient dosage issue. pH is critical and just as important as in a hydro/soilless grow. Could be pH level is locking out some nutrients.
What could be affecting my ph this late into the grow that hasn't caused issues prior to ending 3rd week of flowering though? Wouldn't ph have been affected prior to if I am not doing anything different?
 

Doc McPuffins

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What could be affecting my ph this late into the grow that hasn't caused issues prior to ending 3rd week of flowering though? Wouldn't ph have been affected prior to if I am not doing anything different?
I'm with you on this one. I haven't done anything different since the beginning so if its not N and not ph I'm confused. I mean the plant is still growing like crazy its just the bottom set of leaves turning brow.
 

Raven121415

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With the brown spots I was told magnesium deficiency. I just gave her a double dose of cal mag and some of the yellow has already seemed to fade to more green. I am going to give her a good feeding of tea tonight just to ensure she has enough N to finish properly, plus the added PK wouldn't hurt a bit since you cannot induce toxicity with rabbit manuer tea.
 
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