What atrocities has the US government committed?

sunni said:

Just because someone disagrees politely with you doesn't mean you need to create an argument
It's ok to disagree
You have your opinion i happen to disagree with it
Only because I study aboriginal history for the last 2 years and my professors made me change my opinion on such subject

No I'm not asking them questions for you lol

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professors made you change your beliefs ?? guess its like religion right throw away actual DNA evidence and belief in folklore and the great spirit in the sky dont get me wrong i am not raciest towards Aboriginals have many friends that are IF you study them then you should be unbiased and look at both ends you think they magically appeared here ???

Darth Vapour said:

professors made you change your beliefs ?? guess its like religion right throw away actual DNA evidence and belief in folklore and the great spirit in the sky

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Again see that's Argumentative post just because I think something differently
Than you

They gave pretty good proving evidence from other researchers
Again I'm not in the mood to debate with you
I believe something you believe something
You're problem is you won't drop it cause you gotta prove your point is better because you know all
Well stop
Not everyone needs to agree in life
You're not going to change my mind so you're just wasting time

I never once said they magically appeared here stop putting words in my mouth
I also said I thought the same until my mind was changed
Which means I did look at both side unbiased and happen to change my opinion
I'm allowed to do that ! A

You're comment about folklore and fire in the sky is racist because you clearly know little on aboriginals and history

I'm done I'm not arguing with you

spandy said:

Calling ignored user to fight my battles for me.

Weak.

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what's weak is how impotent you are in the face of simple questions and rebuttals from me.

your whole worldview falls apart and is exposed as the racist blather of a bitter dumbfuck whenever we end up talking.

hence why you have me on ignore, weakling.

suck it.

Rob Roy said:

When you say "we", I think you might really mean "them". (the people that actually participated in the atrocities) .

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no, he means you as well.

you are living on stolen land. you can return it to the descendents of the aggrieved though if you really want to be a peaceful person.

you won't.

NLXSK1 said:

What people do not realize is that in war, you have to exceed your enemies brutality to win... It is a really ugly business.

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didn't you war profiteer by sewing merit badges during the first iraq war?

BDOGKush said:

I covered the fire bombings and the destruction those campaigns resulted in already and I said one of the worst atrocities, not the worst, this thread is also about American atrocities not Russian or Chinese.

Yes the death toll was less than the fire bombing campaigns but the atomic bomb left the Japanese people with long term health problems and birth defects.

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I guess the people that lost limbs, sight, hearing or were severely burned in the firebombings did not have long term health problems and defects...

Look, I think you are using a slogan, a phrase that is just thrown about carelessly. You want to limit the scope and not compare with other countries because comparatively, we are doing pretty good. Take the number of deaths in the 2 bombings and compare it to the number of deaths in WWII if you want to see a relative number. Compare it to the number of jews, russians and germans killed in the war.

Rob Roy said:

When wars happen, the people that started and benefit from the wars never seem to be the ones dying though do they?

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Well, unless they were on the losing side. It never seemed to work out well for those guys ;]

Rob Roy said:

It is YOUR property, (or should be) but the term "property tax" is an oxymoron.

The word property implies control by the owner, ostensibly you. A tax on your property forcibly imposed by an entity that is not the owner is where the oxymoron comes into play. It cannot be "yours" and simultaneously "theirs" to control. They are opposing concepts.

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You are a lot confused. The Property tax is not any kind of control aspect,..it says you want the road to drive on ? You want the power from the core ? You want the streets plowed in snow winters ? You want fire department to come to your car crash ?

It says that you gotta pay some dues to thrive, if not, your sovereign ass is on your own. Don`t use their road. Dig a well and get a generator.

You just don`t like that deal...............Stop crying to us about it.

UncleBuck said:

no, he means you as well.

you are living on stolen land. you can return it to the descendents of the aggrieved though if you really want to be a peaceful person.

you won't.

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They get it back the way it was when they lost it,....no infrastructure. Then good luck collecting rents.

While USA appears to be the number 1 war starting country Ever it baffles me that history has shown USA has never won a war on there own Has it escaped the notice of the U.S.'s 300+ million people their proud, pampered army has never actually won a war? Or that it committed horrific war crimes in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan (en route to defeat, naturally)? Or that its support for Mujaheddin against the Soviets endangered the security of every U.S. man, woman and child by risking a massive counterstrike which came on 9/11 and which cost every single man women and child $3 trillion?
Even the revolution war was fought and won by the french, America stood no chance against the British.
USA is even losing the war on obesity one could say
But the real atrocities is USA can not be trusted by no means history has shown how they are sniffling back stabbing maggots that will sell you out for a dime just ask Saddam hessian oh i forgot a once alley america turned on and supported rebels to kill him
USA making enemies out of its allies is not a good thing specially when its the allies that win all the glorious wars USA tend to parade around like they won Example World war 2
Even now with the iranian nuclear deal USA is stabbing them in the back.
Sad truth is from all the wrong doings USA has done it will and has started coming back to haunt them

Darth Vapour said:

While USA appears to be the number 1 war starting country Ever it baffles me that history has shown USA has never won a war on there own Has it escaped the notice of the U.S.'s 300+ million people their proud, pampered army has never actually won a war? Or that it committed horrific war crimes in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan (en route to defeat, naturally)? Or that its support for Mujaheddin against the Soviets endangered the security of every U.S. man, woman and child by risking a massive counterstrike which came on 9/11 and which cost every single man women and child $3 trillion?
Even the revolution war was fought and won by the french, America stood no chance against the British.
USA is even losing the war on obesity one could say
But the real atrocities is USA can not be trusted by no means history has shown how they are sniffling back stabbing maggots that will sell you out for a dime just ask Saddam hessian oh i forgot a once alley america turned on and supported rebels to kill him
USA making enemies out of its allies is not a good thing specially when its the allies that win all the glorious wars USA tend to parade around like they won Example World war 2
Even now with the iranian nuclear deal USA is stabbing them in the back.
Sad truth is from all the wrong doings USA has done it will and has started coming back to haunt them

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LOL!!! Good Troll!!!

Based on your criteria, could you show me a country that has won a war on it's own? I assume you mean by receiving no help whatsoever in terms of supplies, arms and munitions, troops, etc.

NLXSK1 said:

LOL!!! Good Troll!!!

Based on your criteria, could you show me a country that has won a war on it's own? I assume you mean by receiving no help whatsoever in terms of supplies, arms and munitions, troops, etc.

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England, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. etc.. C'mon, read up on history ffs.

The only "wars" we've won on our own would be like Granada (invasion), Panama (invasion). I could see where you're coming from in the sense that the U.S. sometimes leads a coalition force, but Darth Vapour is actually pretty much correct. I mean even the War of 1812 ended in status quo ante bellum (it was a stalemate, we didn't actually win we just didn't lose).

Everyone is happy with how the War of 1812 ended. The Americans are happy because they think they won. The Canadians are happy because they know they won. And the British are happy because they've forgotten the whole thing.

NLXSK1 said:

LOL!!! Good Troll!!!

Based on your criteria, could you show me a country that has won a war on it's own? I assume you mean by receiving no help whatsoever in terms of supplies, arms and munitions, troops, etc.

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NLXSK1 said:

LOL!!! Good Troll!!!

Based on your criteria, could you show me a country that has won a war on it's own? I assume you mean by receiving no help whatsoever in terms of supplies, arms and munitions, troops, etc.

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Silesian Wars were fought between Prussia and Austria, Napoleonic Wars were started by France, and France alone, the Franco-Prussian War was fought between the French Empire and the North German Confederation (which would then form into the German Empire, or pretty much the modern state of Germany).

pnwmystery said:

England, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. etc.. C'mon, read up on history ffs.

The only "wars" we've won on our own would be like Granada (invasion), Panama (invasion). I could see where you're coming from in the sense that the U.S. sometimes leads a coalition force, but Darth Vapour is actually pretty much correct. I mean even the War of 1812 ended in status quo ante bellum.

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i wouldnt even count Grenada as a war won but as that the United States' invasion was a flagrant violation of international law. in the name of marxist but who needs to abid by any laws specially if your american you can invade any country and dismiss the interational laws put in place to protect every country in the world

Darth Vapour said:

Sunny sorry did not mean to make it a argument not at all can we not agree to disagree i mean do you believe we all came from AFRICA and human race got free rides from aliens into different regions of the planet

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Its a known fact we came from ALIENS

You want atrocities?

The federal government rounding up all Asian Americans on the west coast at the start of WWII and putting them in internment camps. Now THOSE people didnt deserve that, they didnt do anything wrong or support a country at war with us.

When the federal government forced all citizens to turn in their gold because they were so corrupt and in debt that foreign countries wouldnt take their credit anymore. (This one is going to happen again).

There are two atrocities the government has committed against it's own citizens.

^^^^^ is that all i mean if you want to get into more detail when was last time you were at a airport ?? or border crossing ,, when was last time you pulled out 6000 - 10,,000 cash from your savings ???
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when you break it all down all the amendments written in toilet paper is just that worth shit

It takes twice as long for deposited funds to become available then in 2001.

While I may only lose a few dollars over the corse of a year, there's a clearing house out there making a killing.

A nano second to remove $100000 from your account but 4 days to say, "here you can use it now".

I know it's not an atrocity, It's just a cut, one of many.

sunni said:

You're comment about folklore and fire in the sky is racist because you clearly know little on aboriginals and history

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Not a racist comment at all.