What Caused This??

Liddle

Liddle

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White_Widow said:
Hey there guys, I was hoping to get some help... I got an oz of Reggie, found some good seeds, and planted them without knowing anything about growing pot.. that was mistake number one.. i put the plant in "Sta-green tree and shrub potting mix with fertilizer" it has a ph adjuster in it and seemed to be good in nutrients, i knew nothing about ph, and the effects it has on marijuana plants, so today i bought a tester for ph, N, K, P and the ph test read that the soil was 7.5 ph, which i now know is wayyyy too high. i bought some aluminum sulfate, and it has lowered the ph to around 6.2-6.5. my plant was in veg stage for a month, and has been in flowering stage now.for about a month what caused my plant to look like this?? i used led lights for veg, and a 150 watt hps light.for flowering. i put liquid cactus.in water when i water it. i have read alot online, and learned alot, i have 3 new sprouts coming.up in the last 4 days, ph on those are 6.0. i just need to know if anyone else has had a plant look like this, and why it happened?? and how often should i water seedlings vs watering flowering plants, also, for the new sprouts i have each one under a 60watt 6500k cfl light, and the.flowering plant is under a 150watt hps light and a 60 watt 2700k cfl light. i just want to learn as much as possible to have sucessful grows, any advice helps. i bought 6 feminized seeds online today and hope to have all my mistakes corrected by the time i germinate them. also, i have a humidifier in there to keep the grow room humid, and yemps are around 70-80°f. im watering all the plants every other day... too much?? and last thong, can anyone.verify that thos plant is a female? thank u everyone!
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put those damn domes back on ur reptiles enclosures ! they are freezing for christ sake
 
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White_Widow

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weedenhanced said:
I sprout seedling in paper towel till I can just see the root then I plant directly into my final pot in a jiffy pellet and I use no nuts till pt 2 weeks old as a seed has all it need in the seed to last it a good 2 weeks I also start the seed straight under a mh globe dimmed to 200w
My soil in just normal premium potting mix no nutrients and perlite a 50/50 mix
I also water in first 2 week very sparingly like 1 cup of water every 2 days
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NoDrama

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White_Widow said:
ok... so very little nutrients, water every 3 days, and another 4000 watts of lights and ill be good? lol is 60watts of cfl lights/per plant enough for veggitation?
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four thousand watts would be really kick ass, your power bill is going to suck though.

Is 60 watts of CFl good enough for veg? Sure it is, as long as you like 6 month long veg cycles to get your plant big enough to actually yield anything.

Personally a 400 watt HPS is the minimum I would Veg or Flower with. I've used CFL's before, in fact still use them to get seed stock going and over the cloner, but they aren't used to really make these plants grow.

I actually use a 600 watt HPS over my single plant grows, they grow from 4 inch tall to 4 foot tall in 30 days.
 
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White_Widow

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oh wow... so i really do need to dish out the money for many more hps lights then... ive read so much stuff saying cfls can be jist as effective?
 
weedenhanced

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NoDrama said:
four thousand watts would be really kick ass, your power bill is going to suck though.

Is 60 watts of CFl good enough for veg? Sure it is, as long as you like 6 month long veg cycles to get your plant big enough to actually yield anything.

Personally a 400 watt HPS is the minimum I would Veg or Flower with. I've used CFL's before, in fact still use them to get seed stock going and over the cloner, but they aren't used to really make these plants grow.

I actually use a 600 watt HPS over my single plant grows, they grow from 4 inch tall to 4 foot tall in 30 days.
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I grow with mh for veg and hps for flower image.jpgimage.jpg 4 weeks since I flipped to 12/12
image.jpg Start of flip day 2 of 12/12 on hps
 
Liddle

Liddle

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sorry bud no hate meant was just lol ing .thought it was funny too see the zoo med double mini dome haha. just get better lights and read up on the site youl be growing in no time.
 
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White_Widow

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Liddle said:
sorry bud no hate meant was just lol ing .thought it was funny too see the zoo med double mini dome haha. just get better lights and read up on the site youl be growing in no time.
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okay. i will definitely do that... so i clearly need more light on the veg seedlings and the poor little pitiful flowering one. lol and water less. other then thay, is there any tips for growing big, good buding plants? topping??
 
Liddle

Liddle

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White_Widow said:
okay. i will definitely do that... so i clearly need more light on the veg seedlings and the poor little pitiful flowering one. lol and water less. other then thay, is there any tips for growing big, good buding plants? topping??
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read read read
 
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NoDrama

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weedenhanced said:
U will yield more with hps for flower and mh for veg
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Not true on a watt for watt basis. HPS is way more efficient, in some cases up to 50% more lumens from HPS than MH. MH may have a bit better spectrum for veg, but HPS blows it away in actual useable light given off. HPS will give you bigger yields comparing same wattages.
http://www.darkskysociety.org/handouts/white_paper--mh_vs_hps.pdf
http://resodance.com/ali/compcost.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal-halide_lamp

It is also of interest to note that MH bulbs typically last only half as long as HPS bulbs.
 
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NoDrama

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White_Widow said:
if i bought this, and a 1000 watt bulb is this all i will need to make the bulb work? not too familiar with mh or hps...http://m.rakuten.com/product/258144587?listingid=317836080&adid=29963
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You need a ballast, a base, the correct wiring for the base and ballast you are using, a reflector or hood/cooltube and of course the same wattage bulb as the ballast is rated for and that will fit in the base you got. Most digital ballasts will handle both MH and HPS bulbs.

Ballast
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Reflector/hood
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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NoDrama said:
Not true on a watt for watt basis. HPS is way more efficient, in some cases up to 50% more lumens from HPS than MH. MH may have a bit better spectrum for veg, but HPS blows it away in actual useable light given off. HPS will give you bigger yields comparing same wattages.
http://www.darkskysociety.org/handouts/white_paper--mh_vs_hps.pdf
http://resodance.com/ali/compcost.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal-halide_lamp

It is also of interest to note that MH bulbs typically last only half as long as HPS bulbs.
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Yeah I only veg with mh it's a lot better for veg man try it tighter nodes faster veg growth hps 100% for flower
 
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White_Widow

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do you guys think i will be okay growing 6 plants under a 1000watt mh setup, air vent hood, and bulb, etc. for veg stage and flowrring the 6 plants under a 1000watt hps bulb? will that be enough? my grow space i built is 8x4x3ft. but i will only be using about 3x3 of that space. so will that wattagework for 6 plants? also i bought testers for my soil. n, p, k, and ph testers to keep track of thesoil. i have a humidifier in there, and the wood has a reflecting aluminum coat on it, in the grow space. temps are around 75-80. im doing 24/hr on for veg, and obviously 12/12 for flowering. also i have another 150 watt hps setup, would it be too much if i used that setup along with the 1000watt setup?
 
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