What LED light would you like to see -vs- 600w HPS

T macc said:
A lot of hps growers like to bash led lights. It comes from the days of blurple. Blurples sucked and I side with hps over them. But new efficient led is about there, if not already, with hps. People are pulling a pound with way less light than what's needed with hps. Denying that is one being afraid to change
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Simply just place your opinion in order of scale say 1-led, 2-cmh, 3-hps and leave us alone to discuss the rest other than who runs the best or what poundage you pull.

Rollitup is a resource not a supporter of who is the best, try treat it so :-)
 
T macc said:
A lot of hps growers like to bash led lights. It comes from the days of blurple. Blurples sucked and I side with hps over them. But new efficient led is about there, if not already, with hps. People are pulling a pound with way less light than what's needed with hps. Denying that is one being afraid to change
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I've noticed most of the bashing is coming from people using LED's and calling people that use HPS relics, stuck in the past, and other nasty things. I'll take my $150 HPS and run with it before I spend what they are charging for decent LED's. I'm growing pot not chasing technology.
 
xtsho said:
I've noticed most of the bashing is coming from people using LED's and calling people that use HPS relics, stuck in the past, and other nasty things. I'll take my $150 HPS and run with it before I spend what they are charging for decent LED's. I'm growing pot not chasing technology.
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Well we did troll them off in the blurple days so lets call it even :-)
 
Kingrow1 said:
See how easy that was, we can keep your conversation to limited bullet points whilst the rest have a more 'indepth' conversation thusly avoiding talking to those who merely want to rank lights :-)
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Op asked what LED to put against his hps. He already knows how good hps performs! The whole point of the thread is to suggest different lighting. You not see the title of the thread? Just bashing ppl who don't agree with you. You said cmh. That's still No. 2 on your scale that you suggested lol
Cmh has better spectrum, but I've seen great led yields. That's the whole damn conversation; cmh OR led vs 600w hps
 
T macc said:
Op asked what LED to put against his hps. He already knows how good hps performs! The whole point of the thread is to suggest different lighting. You not see the title of the thread? Just bashing ppl who don't agree with you. You said cmh. That's still No. 2 on your scale that you suggested lol
Cmh has better spectrum, but I've seen great led yields. That's the whole damn conversation; cmh OR led vs 600w hps
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I thought i had a good discussion with the op on what realistic results could be v the effort and cost and the fact he's already rolling some nice plants out already.

Then another member gave what i thought was a oretty good over view of how to get started with ked or cmh.

....Then we digressed (not sure i spelt that right) to this.

Im actually quite peakead at what flowiki said about the different hps bulbs in relation to their spectrum and price, wtf didnt i think about that... another week of slow reading for me on why they were partially flawed :-)
 
T macc said:
Op asked what LED to put against his hps. He already knows how good hps performs! The whole point of the thread is to suggest different lighting. You not see the title of the thread? Just bashing ppl who don't agree with you. You said cmh. That's still No. 2 on your scale that you suggested lol
Cmh has better spectrum, but I've seen great led yields. That's the whole damn conversation; cmh OR led vs 600w hps
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My scale was hypothetical, i dont care what the best is on a board that seems not to have proved a darn thing by showing countless grows with each light and combo.

Now some may argue this and some that, any gains are negligable (could have spelt that wrong too) imo i can tell who will win in a ferrari against a scooter but led cmh hps i couldnt even guess sorry.

You seemed to have some inner knowkedge, if leds were that good it would be a far simpler discussion dont ya think :-)
 
T macc said:
Op asked what LED to put against his hps. He already knows how good hps performs! The whole point of the thread is to suggest different lighting. You not see the title of the thread? Just bashing ppl who don't agree with you. You said cmh. That's still No. 2 on your scale that you suggested lol
Cmh has better spectrum, but I've seen great led yields. That's the whole damn conversation; cmh OR led vs 600w hps
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the op will do what every led promoter does grows under hps but takes pics with the led going saying how good it is then back under the hps till the next lot of pics
 
Kingrow1 said:
My scale was hypothetical, i dont care what the best is on a board that seems not to have proved a darn thing by showing countless grows with each light and combo.

Now some may argue this and some that, any gains are negligable (could have spelt that wrong too) imo i can tell who will win in a ferrari against a scooter but led cmh hps i couldnt even guess sorry.

You seemed to have some inner knowkedge, if leds were that good it would be a far simpler discussion dont ya think :-)
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Ok. Agreed. Go for what you know and kill it any way you know how, whether hps, cmh, led, or other. But trying different lighting tech gets expensive, I understand

My hps experience is limited to one grow. Used cmh for 2 years, and just switched to quantums. I got really nice buds with cmh, just i know I can yield better with something else. The only way to know the truth is to try it yourself. I've yet to complete a whole led grow myself, but will have results before summer
 
T macc said:
Ok. Agreed. Go for what you know and kill it any way you know how, whether hps, cmh, led, or other. But trying different lighting tech gets expensive, I understand

My hps experience is limited to one grow. Used cmh for 2 years, and just switched to quantums. I got really nice buds with cmh, just i know I can yield better with something else. The only way to know the truth is to try it yourself. I've yet to complete a whole led grow myself, but will have results before summer
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I miss envirolites, i dont really want to run hps or led or cmh but thats my choices so any will technically do for around a similar yeild.

:-)
 
T macc said:
Ok. Agreed. Go for what you know and kill it any way you know how, whether hps, cmh, led, or other. But trying different lighting tech gets expensive, I understand

My hps experience is limited to one grow. Used cmh for 2 years, and just switched to quantums. I got really nice buds with cmh, just i know I can yield better with something else. The only way to know the truth is to try it yourself. I've yet to complete a whole led grow myself, but will have results before summer
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Actually I think the only thing LED’s have over HPS at this point is their affordability, but only long term. I paid probably 200-300$ more In 600w LED instead of a quality 1000w HPS, but my energy costs are 60% less. The production is about the same, very slight edge to HPS in my opinion but not worth the cost, plus you can get 1700k LED’s that have excellent red/orange light for flowering, which I’ve yet to add and try out. 900w of LED is pretty unfair to compare then at that point.
 
My HPS lights and Big Name Hortihoohoo bulbs and 250w and 400w CMH are in totes under the house. Some bulbs are new even. Been there for 5 years!

I switched to COBs and white LEDSs several years ago because they make a lot more light for a lot less juice and of course, the unrivaled spectrums. Less heat to deal with for comparable amount of light since they are so efficient compared to those old street lights.

DIY and prebuilt COBs and Quantum Boards are the way to go with a lot of HPS fan boys makin the switch the last few years.
 
hillbill said:
My HPS lights and Big Name Hortihoohoo bulbs and 250w and 400w CMH are in totes under the house. Some bulbs are new even. Been there for 5 years!

I switched to COBs and white LEDSs several years ago because they make a lot more light for a lot less juice and of course, the unrivaled spectrums. Less heat to deal with for comparable amount of light since they are so efficient compared to those old street lights.

DIY and prebuilt COBs and Quantum Boards are the way to go with a lot of HPS fan boys makin the switch the last few years.
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Yes there was a debate a while back between white leds or coloured - they seem to be making a small come back with some aalthough 90% of grows still look purple here.

Its not hard to make a superior led spectrum with white, i say superior to other leds though, white never seemed to catch on as much :-)
 
I have 4 blurple lights also in storage most advanced led growers have also unless they are relatively new. I had blurple that would get close to HPS watt for watt with better bud but white COBs and Boards are far and away superior. And no bulbs to buy.
 
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