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Weird, huh? I wonder how many times that happens when getting seed breeder packs. It can't be a completely unique experience; anyone else out there had that happen?

Originally Posted by Brick Top Gee, it sure is a real bonus to get free seeds that will carry the hermie trait so when used the grower will just end up with seedy pot again.

We should all be so lucky.

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grobofotwanky said:

Valid point but no need for the sarcasm. I'd rather grow homemade seeds with a chance of herm than pay out the ass for fem seeds that will herm the exact same. Not all of us are that picky. I myself don't mind a seed here and there. Mystery weed!

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If growing seedy pot is your thing than by all means, have at it. As for feminized seeds, it is not as if all are equally unstable or as prone to turning hermie as others, and those from better breeders are vastly less likely to turn hermie than when you grow using seeds created by a hermie. But then the answer to the question of if to grow from feminized seeds of hermie seeds is the way to go the answer is to purchase regular seeds from a top quality skilled breeder rather than purchasing feminized seeds, especially from a mid or low grade breeder, or using seeds created by a hermie. It was greatly reduce your odds of having hermies and you end up with better pot, better because it came from a higher end breeder and also because it is seedless.


If you know the strain regardless of it turning hermie or not it's not really; "mystery weed." That term would fit if you were growing bagseed of strain you did not know the name of or if someone gave you unidentified seeds. What you are talking about might better be called gamble weed or gambling weed or even guessing weed in that you are gambling on and guessing if there will be seeds or not.

If someone wants to make homemade seeds, or grow from homemade seeds, they would be far better off to just purchase regular seeds and then pick the best male of those you get to leave with your females, or better yet separate them and collect pollen from the best male and carefully dust a few lower buds and use them to make seeds and have the majority of the plant, especially the cola, seedless.

PoodleBud said:

Weird, huh? I wonder how many times that happens when getting seed breeder packs. It can't be a completely unique experience; anyone else out there had that happen?

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It's called different phenotypes, it is not uncommon.

This is what the strain is made up of. You can end up with something rather different from other plants, something that is very much like one strain in the mix or like a combination of several, but not all strains in the mix, or it can be what it is supposed to be ..... especially if a Green House Seeds strain. They are not exactly famous for stability.

• Arjan's Strawberry Haze »»» Swizerland x NL5 Haze
• Swizerland »»» Sativa
• NL5 Haze
  • »»» Northern Lights #5 x Haze
  • Northern Lights #5
    • USA, Kalifornien »»» Mostly Indica
  • Haze
    • O Haze
      • »»» Mexico x Colombia x Thailand x India
      • Mexico »»» Sativa
      • Colombia »»» Sativa
      • Thailand »»» Sativa
      • India »»» Sativa

That's interesting and maks perfect sense. It will be an adventure to see what is actually is. If Green House is not known for stability, who is?

i think white label is pretty good for stability

angelsbandit said:

One of your plants turned hermie - all you can do is let them finish.

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Looks like seed production to me also.
WTF are the stringy things hanging around ? Dog hairs....... cat hairs....yours lol or WEB?

PoodleBud said:

That's interesting and maks perfect sense. It will be an adventure to see what is actually is. If Green House is not known for stability, who is?

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Greenhouse rush there shit just like barney's do , but not to the same extent..... or they are simply lucky.

though you were gonna throw +rep for answers?????????? you got about twenty right???????

I dunno how true this is, but i read that when marijuana plants are surrounded by nothing but females, they will produce a couple seeds to perpetuate the species. Without male pollen being around

IVIars said:

I dunno how true this is, but i read that when marijuana plants are surrounded by nothing but females, they will produce a couple seeds to perpetuate the species. Without male pollen being around

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How the fuck would a plant know if it's surrounded by females? They don't have eyes... Telepathy maybe?

Seeds to me. Hermies are quite common and quite easy to get with some strains.

Stomata said:

How the fuck would a plant know if it's surrounded by females? They don't have eyes... Telepathy maybe?

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I used to have a link to a really interesting research study, which unfortunately I lost along with about a ZILLION other links and EVERYTHING I had when I had total computer failure last December, but plants can and will do amazing things.

Over several seasons a crop of plants on a cliff on the leeward side of some island where a wild crop was growing researchers removed all the male plants. Each year a very high percentage of the females on roughly the first third of the plants on the windward side of the group turned hermie. Roughly the middle third had slightly less than half turn hermie and the third on the leeward side had none that turned hermie.

Without the link to go back and double check exactly what the researchers formulated, basically they said that at some point when females are not pollinated there are various things than can trigger females to turn hermie. Some are stresses like indoor growers have problems with like light leaks or other types of stresses right down to a root-bound condition, but in the case of the island crops the researches determined that it was just the near constant, and at times high, wind striking the plants that were more on the windward side.

They came to that conclusion after one year setting up a wind block and the number of hermies dropped way down. They also figured that was evidence of why the plants on the far windward side hermied the most and in the middle there were less and on the leeward side there were none, that the plants themselves created a wind block for the plants farther to the leeward side.

So I would say that it is not a case of a group of all female plants not being pollinated somehow communicating and deciding that one or some or all will hermie but rather something in their genetic coding that once they reach a point during flower and are not pollinated something will 'kick into gear' and they will allow, or maybe even 'look for' certain stresses, even ones we might not consider stresses, or natural triggers to cause one or some or all to turn so they can then perform their one and only task, their singular reason for existing to occur, that being making seeds to perpetuate the species.

Brick Top said:

If growing seedy pot is your thing than by all means, have at it. As for feminized seeds, it is not as if all are equally unstable or as prone to turning hermie as others, and those from better breeders are vastly less likely to turn hermie than when you grow using seeds created by a hermie.

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lmao, you think a "better breeder" just waves a magic wand and make feminized seeds?

Originally Posted by Brick Top If growing seedy pot is your thing than by all means, have at it. As for feminized seeds, it is not as if all are equally unstable or as prone to turning hermie as others, and those from better breeders are vastly less likely to turn hermie than when you grow using seeds created by a hermie.

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coworker23 said:

lmao, you think a "better breeder" just waves a magic wand and make feminized seeds?

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To begin with, there are different methods of making a female plant grow male sexual organs to get pollen from to then use to pollinate a crop of female plants with to make feminized seeds. Not every method makes equally stable feminized seeds, some will pass on a hermie trait more than others. If a cross is unstable to begin with the feminizing process, any feminizing process, will bring intensify it, but some methods will bring it out more, it will make it more unstable and more likely to turn hermie.

The more stable the cross is you are going to feminize the fewer hermies there will be. Better breeders make more stable crosses than Wal-Mart quality breeders.

Also I guess you never heard of a "true female," a female plant that has no male genetics in it at all ... and if someone takes the time to find one, or more, and uses them to make feminized seeds it reduces the odds of hermies to almost nothing .. and better breeders will take the time to find "true female" plants.

So no, it doesn't take a magic wand. It only takes knowledge, skill and the desire to do things right and the willingness to take as much time as is needed to assure as much stability as is possible and do things the very best way possible.