What type of flowering plant is all cannabis? & Flavinoid/Terp enhancers

calicko

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Okay, so this question does sound stupid but if you read more into plant sciences you see there are a vast many reasons why and how plants in general flower. My question being cannabis being a DAY flowering plant, seeing as cannabis is dioecious(in most cases)and uses both pollinators as well as the wind to reproduce, couldn't cannabis be then sperated in its own species? Not like cannabis sativa or indica but like L. Sativa Nocum or some crazy latin or Greek name? Species that have been bred for floral scent strength and would then use signals to attract flying bugs but when? Day or night? Same would go with species bred maybe outdoors as well to have low odors and would them use wind to reproduce and would have the higher terps and less flaviniods but higher CBD:Thc ratios also to then compensate best for reproduction. So then no floral scent would be neccessary as those functions by evolution would then carry on to plant heartyness and bug/environment/disease resistance...not a day or night flowering plant but still photosensitive unlike Rhuderalis.
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It gets complicated but essentially I'm trying to figure out why some strains have smells and some don't during flowering transitions. I.e. my current grow. Have at least 3 different strains(from bags) out of 5 plants and none have ever had any type of scent. Other grows with "low-scent" varieties have have not been so smell-free like my last with Northern lights x blueberry...that smelled so good but my filter had a hard time scrubbing odors halfway through veg well into drying process! Also, as crazy as it sounds, most of the time even ditch weed had that iconic Cannabis odor and my current grow has a newer tent/humid swamp smell.

Rh is 45% 74°F days 67 nights
Foxfarm OF/HF perlite 40/40/10
Organics like alfalfa, bone, blood, feather meal, fish, etc used during veg and now 3 weeks into flower use blackstrap & Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10. Ph stays around 6.2-6.3. Tap has 0ppm chloride and <100ppm sodium and must water everday.
Everything is legit but I'm telling you as i sit in my tent, there's zero scent! Lol rhymes.

With well over a month left, what can I use to pack on the pounds and the flavinoids & terpenoids (i like this terminology better) since my plants take on more than recommended doses like Sammy Sosa did back in the 00's!? At this point I don't care if synthetic either, i just cannot have ferts that are known to react in FF's soils..ive got great biology in my soil though and would prefer not to kill it.

Ideas?
 

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Lordhooha

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Okay, so this question does sound stupid but if you read more into plant sciences you see there are a vast many reasons why and how plants in general flower. My question being cannabis being a DAY flowering plant, seeing as cannabis is dioecious(in most cases)and uses both pollinators as well as the wind to reproduce, couldn't cannabis be then sperated in its own species? Not like cannabis sativa or indica but like L. Sativa Nocum or some crazy latin or Greek name? Species that have been bred for floral scent strength and would then use signals to attract flying bugs but when? Day or night? Same would go with species bred maybe outdoors as well to have low odors and would them use wind to reproduce and would have the higher terps and less flaviniods but higher CBD:Thc ratios also to then compensate best for reproduction. So then no floral scent would be neccessary as those functions by evolution would then carry on to plant heartyness and bug/environment/disease resistance...not a day or night flowering plant but still photosensitive unlike Rhuderalis.
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It gets complicated but essentially I'm trying to figure out why some strains have smells and some don't during flowering transitions. I.e. my current grow. Have at least 3 different strains(from bags) out of 5 plants and none have ever had any type of scent. Other grows with "low-scent" varieties have have not been so smell-free like my last with Northern lights x blueberry...that smelled so good but my filter had a hard time scrubbing odors halfway through veg well into drying process! Also, as crazy as it sounds, most of the time even ditch weed had that iconic Cannabis odor and my current grow has a newer tent/humid swamp smell.

Rh is 45% 74°F days 67 nights
Foxfarm OF/HF perlite 40/40/10
Organics like alfalfa, bone, blood, feather meal, fish, etc used during veg and now 3 weeks into flower use blackstrap & Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10. Ph stays around 6.2-6.3. Tap has 0ppm chloride and <100ppm sodium and must water everday.
Everything is legit but I'm telling you as i sit in my tent, there's zero scent! Lol rhymes.

With well over a month left, what can I use to pack on the pounds and the flavinoids & terpenoids (i like this terminology better) since my plants take on more than recommended doses like Sammy Sosa did back in the 00's!? At this point I don't care if synthetic either, i just cannot have ferts that are known to react in FF's soils..ive got great biology in my soil though and would prefer not to kill it.

Ideas?
You have 100+ ppm of sodium in your water? high carbon soil and well taken care of plants will produce the best they can give you. Genetics and environment play a big part in this as well.
 

Rurumo

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those are still young yet for any super strong odors, you should be able to smell the difference between them if you stick your nose right up to the flowers though. My current grow is 4 weeks into flower and I don't smell anything while I'm inside my room, but I do when I'm outside for a while, then come back in...it's like a hot dank fruity fart right in my face! So what i'm saying is....maybe they do smell, but just not to you because you're used to it? Bring a girl over and she'd notice it right away.
 

calicko

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those are still young yet for any super strong odors, you should be able to smell the difference between them if you stick your nose right up to the flowers though. My current grow is 4 weeks into flower and I don't smell anything while I'm inside my room, but I do when I'm outside for a while, then come back in...it's like a hot dank fruity fart right in my face! So what i'm saying is....maybe they do smell, but just not to you because you're used to it? Bring a girl over and she'd notice it right away.
I did forget to mention there is a slight 'right as you take off socks you may or may not have worn for 2 days' smell with the fresh canvas and a tinge of recycled transpired air AKA swampiness. Lol

My fiancee knows and never mentions the smell even though she works at an old people home 6 days of the week(I need to get a life outside of cannabis); we've been together 5 years and 3 kids between us. Neighbor who doesn't know I smoke, just came over within 8-10 of my area and didn't mention anything (and he's super old school and goes to church)!
I realize olfactory systems and how smells become familiarized in the brain but in all seriousness, an old fashioned febreeze oil scent thingie[on lowest setting]; 15ft away shouldn't mask an entire >1000ft2 space. So many controls I've gone over and I'm being patient but now the question becomes, if no smells happen, does that necessarily translate=poorer quality/low thc?

Yes Hooha, I live in an area where water is free and only have to share a few 100 acres with 50 or so others. I run my water right from the tap, filtered single-stage, let sit for min. 24hrs even though chlorine is absent, mix with ferts and use. My h2o has plenty of cal,mg, iron, etc so less than 100 parts is more than ideal mind you I still go heavy on p & k from organic and rock origins. None of my plants have ever even shown nute burn or cal/mg deficiencies as soil ph stays constant=tap water slightly alkaline @7.1 sometimes 7.0 ferts are roughly 5 = perfect soil ph last 4.5 months. Seriously, tap water is great sometimes for plants!
So yes, all good babydoll!
 

Old_fart_stoner

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Okay, so this question does sound stupid but if you read more into plant sciences you see there are a vast many reasons why and how plants in general flower. My question being cannabis being a DAY flowering plant, seeing as cannabis is dioecious(in most cases)and uses both pollinators as well as the wind to reproduce, couldn't cannabis be then sperated in its own species? Not like cannabis sativa or indica but like L. Sativa Nocum or some crazy latin or Greek name? Species that have been bred for floral scent strength and would then use signals to attract flying bugs but when? Day or night? Same would go with species bred maybe outdoors as well to have low odors and would them use wind to reproduce and would have the higher terps and less flaviniods but higher CBD:Thc ratios also to then compensate best for reproduction. So then no floral scent would be neccessary as those functions by evolution would then carry on to plant heartyness and bug/environment/disease resistance...not a day or night flowering plant but still photosensitive unlike Rhuderalis.
View attachment 4852501
It gets complicated but essentially I'm trying to figure out why some strains have smells and some don't during flowering transitions. I.e. my current grow. Have at least 3 different strains(from bags) out of 5 plants and none have ever had any type of scent. Other grows with "low-scent" varieties have have not been so smell-free like my last with Northern lights x blueberry...that smelled so good but my filter had a hard time scrubbing odors halfway through veg well into drying process! Also, as crazy as it sounds, most of the time even ditch weed had that iconic Cannabis odor and my current grow has a newer tent/humid swamp smell.

Rh is 45% 74°F days 67 nights
Foxfarm OF/HF perlite 40/40/10
Organics like alfalfa, bone, blood, feather meal, fish, etc used during veg and now 3 weeks into flower use blackstrap & Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10. Ph stays around 6.2-6.3. Tap has 0ppm chloride and <100ppm sodium and must water everday.
Everything is legit but I'm telling you as i sit in my tent, there's zero scent! Lol rhymes.

With well over a month left, what can I use to pack on the pounds and the flavinoids & terpenoids (i like this terminology better) since my plants take on more than recommended doses like Sammy Sosa did back in the 00's!? At this point I don't care if synthetic either, i just cannot have ferts that are known to react in FF's soils..ive got great biology in my soil though and would prefer not to kill it.

Ideas?
Zaphod is just this guy, ya know?
 

Nope_49595933949

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Every grower wants to grow the most flavorful, aromatic, and oil-rich plants. Growers usually want to maximize their plants' genetic potential by increasing terpenes' production from each distinct strain so that its fragrances, flavors, and therapeutic benefits can stand out. For most planters, the ultimate goal is to grow plants with all the desired aesthetic and medicinal qualities.

On the other hand, some of the most intriguing and complex fragrances in the world may be found in cannabis plants. But what causes marijuana plants to smell? The reason is that a combination of certain hydrocarbons known as terpenes controls the distinctive smells and scents of cannabis flowers. Terpenes, which may be found in over 30,000 different variations, give various plants their distinctive flavors and aromas, including lavender, rosemary, basil, and cannabis.

The trichome heads of marijuana flowers contain the majority of the plant's terpenes, flavonoids, and cannabinoids. So, if you want to improve the flavor and aroma of your cannabis plants, start by making your trichomes bigger and denser. There are so many supplements available in the market that can be added to any base nutrient strategy to improve the flavor and aroma of thc flower.

If your growing environment is good, using a nutritional addition that boosts terpene and essential oil production is the simplest method to improve your terpene profile.
What nutritional addition do you recommend to boost those terps?
 

Bud man 43

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I am growing in coco perlite mix with GH flora series.
I have had good results with Floralicious plus and
liquid koolbloom early in flower dry Koolbloom late in flower.
 
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