What Would an Evangelical Christian Country Be Like

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
The anti-woke homophobic mega church-going christofascist political movement is dealing with something they never thought of before. The inclusive, multicultural civil rights respecting political movement represents a larger constituency and we can organize to vote too.

The link below contains a sordid story about the take-over of a school board in Rocklin California and the sleeping dragon they woke when they rammed dangerous, harmful and probably illegal measures through a public hearing that saw four school board members ignore their testimony against the measures that the right wing controlled board passed 4-to-1. Hupp, who is named in the passage extracted from the link below, is president of the school board, a teacher, a member of a reactionary right wing mega-church and says reasonable-sounding things until one realizes that like her form of Christianity what she says and what she does are two different things.


The spectrum of emotion and argument sounded a lot like what Rocklin’s conservatives were saying in 2019, during the Fair Act debate. But this time the conservatives in the room were clearly in the minority. That didn’t happen by accident.

Progressive parents had started organizing early in the summer. They grew even more angry ― and determined to act ― after Hupp wrote a Facebook post seeking volunteers to advise on curriculum issues and specifying that “we need as many Christ centered, family focused parents as we can get.” (After that post went viral, eventually drawing some national attention, Hupp said she was not trying to exclude or discourage anyone from stepping forward.)

Among those expressing outrage at the post was Price Johnson, 34, who is the father of a first grader and a third grader in the Rocklin schools. Johnson runs a game publishing company.

“If it’s your priority to put more emphasis on certain demographics of people, or certain types of marriages or relationships, that’s your prerogative to contextualize that for your children in your own home setting, and with your own religious beliefs,” Johnson told me. “But if you’re trying to form how the school talks about recognizing real-world people, that shouldn’t be up for debate.”


As I see it, this represents the next shoe to drop. At the national level, this is the last year of MAGA's ability to project power in Congress. At the local level, right wingers have been working to subvert our public school systems and the majority has seen enough. Placer County, CA -- MAGA is there too and they must be suppressed before our schools can be made safe for all of our kids.
 

GenericEnigma

Well-Known Member
The anti-woke homophobic mega church-going christofascist political movement is dealing with something they never thought of before. The inclusive, multicultural civil rights respecting political movement represents a larger constituency and we can organize to vote too.

The link below contains a sordid story about the take-over of a school board in Rocklin California and the sleeping dragon they woke when they rammed dangerous, harmful and probably illegal measures through a public hearing that saw four school board members ignore their testimony against the measures that the right wing controlled board passed 4-to-1. Hupp, who is named in the passage extracted from the link below, is president of the school board, a teacher, a member of a reactionary right wing mega-church and says reasonable-sounding things until one realizes that like her form of Christianity what she says and what she does are two different things.


The spectrum of emotion and argument sounded a lot like what Rocklin’s conservatives were saying in 2019, during the Fair Act debate. But this time the conservatives in the room were clearly in the minority. That didn’t happen by accident.

Progressive parents had started organizing early in the summer. They grew even more angry ― and determined to act ― after Hupp wrote a Facebook post seeking volunteers to advise on curriculum issues and specifying that “we need as many Christ centered, family focused parents as we can get.” (After that post went viral, eventually drawing some national attention, Hupp said she was not trying to exclude or discourage anyone from stepping forward.)

Among those expressing outrage at the post was Price Johnson, 34, who is the father of a first grader and a third grader in the Rocklin schools. Johnson runs a game publishing company.

“If it’s your priority to put more emphasis on certain demographics of people, or certain types of marriages or relationships, that’s your prerogative to contextualize that for your children in your own home setting, and with your own religious beliefs,” Johnson told me. “But if you’re trying to form how the school talks about recognizing real-world people, that shouldn’t be up for debate.”


As I see it, this represents the next shoe to drop. At the national level, this is the last year of MAGA's ability to project power in Congress. At the local level, right wingers have been working to subvert our public school systems and the majority has seen enough. Placer County, CA -- MAGA is there too and they must be suppressed before our schools can be made safe for all of our kids.
Sometimes I wonder if Christians realize why religion is statistically waning. Some must see it (progressive Lutherans, perhaps). I imagine the ones who don't see it are the ones causing it. I know plenty of God botherers who have quit going to church, often citing pulpit politics or foisted guilt.

The promise of Hell as a place for other people to go to is enticing for the jealous and self-righteous. But most people don't want to go to church to feel bad and meet assholes.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The anti-woke homophobic mega church-going christofascist political movement is dealing with something they never thought of before. The inclusive, multicultural civil rights respecting political movement represents a larger constituency and we can organize to vote too.

The link below contains a sordid story about the take-over of a school board in Rocklin California and the sleeping dragon they woke when they rammed dangerous, harmful and probably illegal measures through a public hearing that saw four school board members ignore their testimony against the measures that the right wing controlled board passed 4-to-1. Hupp, who is named in the passage extracted from the link below, is president of the school board, a teacher, a member of a reactionary right wing mega-church and says reasonable-sounding things until one realizes that like her form of Christianity what she says and what she does are two different things.


The spectrum of emotion and argument sounded a lot like what Rocklin’s conservatives were saying in 2019, during the Fair Act debate. But this time the conservatives in the room were clearly in the minority. That didn’t happen by accident.

Progressive parents had started organizing early in the summer. They grew even more angry ― and determined to act ― after Hupp wrote a Facebook post seeking volunteers to advise on curriculum issues and specifying that “we need as many Christ centered, family focused parents as we can get.” (After that post went viral, eventually drawing some national attention, Hupp said she was not trying to exclude or discourage anyone from stepping forward.)

Among those expressing outrage at the post was Price Johnson, 34, who is the father of a first grader and a third grader in the Rocklin schools. Johnson runs a game publishing company.

“If it’s your priority to put more emphasis on certain demographics of people, or certain types of marriages or relationships, that’s your prerogative to contextualize that for your children in your own home setting, and with your own religious beliefs,” Johnson told me. “But if you’re trying to form how the school talks about recognizing real-world people, that shouldn’t be up for debate.”


As I see it, this represents the next shoe to drop. At the national level, this is the last year of MAGA's ability to project power in Congress. At the local level, right wingers have been working to subvert our public school systems and the majority has seen enough. Placer County, CA -- MAGA is there too and they must be suppressed before our schools can be made safe for all of our kids.
Cali is the trendsetting cosmopolitan BMW-convertible-driving face of the state that makes it into the media. However Fornia, the rest of the state, with its ranch and lumber economies, is startlingly red. I’ve lived in the Foothills (Tuolumne County, south of Placer but culturally and economically similar) and now the desert, and the number of people quoting stuff that’s all Foxed up is discouraging.

1704056899361.jpeg

1704056978681.jpeg
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Cali is the trendsetting cosmopolitan BMW-convertible-driving face of the state that makes it into the media. However Fornia, the rest of the state, with its ranch and lumber economies, is startlingly red. I’ve lived in the Foothills (Tuolumne County, south of Placer but culturally and economically similar) and now the desert, and the number of people quoting stuff that’s all Foxed up is discouraging.

View attachment 5356887

View attachment 5356888
Oregon has the same east-west divide. Also urban rural divide. Their problem is they don't have the numbers. Noisy isn't the same as numerous. Fortunately
 

bursto

Well-Known Member
@Fogdog the thread is called what would an evangelical Christian country be like, so i give you a God fearing man with understanding of scripture
 
Last edited:

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
@Fogdog the thread is called what would an evangelical Christian country be like, so i give you a God fearing man with understanding of scripture
Has it not occurred to you that the basic concept of any God who is ok with people fearing him is corrupt at its core?

This Pentecostal misinterpreter of the New Testament is part of the Problem. He preaches that othersexuals are going to Hell by default, along with the other strictures beloved by megapastors with a big collection plate. Who needs such a mendacious hateful cruel man who thoroughly distorts the words of Jesus as a spiritual advisor? Damned dominionist.

Every single hit on him, excepting Wiki and the church’s homepage, is Youtube, Facebook, Pinterest or Tiktok.
 

bursto

Well-Known Member
Has it not occurred to you that the basic concept of any God who is ok with people fearing him is corrupt at its core?

This Pentecostal misinterpreter of the New Testament is part of the Problem. He preaches that othersexuals are going to Hell by default, along with the other strictures beloved by megapastors with a big collection plate. Who needs such a mendacious hateful cruel man who thoroughly distorts the words of Jesus as a spiritual advisor? Damned dominionist.

Every single hit on him, excepting Wiki and the church’s homepage, is Youtube, Facebook, Pinterest or Tiktok.
see Luke 12 4-7

you guys are lucky to have Pastors like Gino Jennings, calls himself a Pitbull preacher, not a bad analogy
he can bark at me like a junkyard dog all he want, better than listening to the ramblings of Creflo give me yo dollar

has me in stitches and searching the scriptures at the same time
 
Last edited:

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
see Luke 12 4-7

you guys are lucky to have Pastors like Gino Jennings, calls himself a Pitbull preacher, not a bad analogy
he can bark at me like a junkyard dog all he want, better than listening to the ramblings of Creflo give me yo dollar

has me in stitches and searching the scriptures at the same time
The simple fact that he is about cruel restrictions on how to live and love informs me that he is far, far from Jesus.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
@Fogdog the thread is called what would an evangelical Christian country be like, so i give you a God fearing man with understanding of scripture
Why should I listen to that? What can I possibly learn from it? That's all I'm asking.

There is a shit ton of crap on utube. If its not from a source I recognize, I'm not going to click on it.

Not that it should matter to you so stop insisting unless you want to provide context. Why did you post it? What can I learn from it that I don't already know?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
see Luke 12 4-7

you guys are lucky to have Pastors like Gino Jennings, calls himself a Pitbull preacher, not a bad analogy
he can bark at me like a junkyard dog all he want, better than listening to the ramblings of Creflo give me yo dollar

has me in stitches and searching the scriptures at the same time
For anybody searching utube for laughs about religion, here's one that might give you a better laugh than getting high and listening to a bible thumper.


As Crist says. You prayed for that? Pray for wisdom instead.
 
Top