What's happening to my baby? newbie needs help!!!

Diknuts

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Is it possible that you just spilled some nute solution on the leaves?I think that is what it looks like to me.Just make sure that when you water the plants ,try not to get it on the leaves.If you have hps or mh water on the leaves will magnify the light and burn.Insecticides can make spots if you get a strong mix on the leaves.
 

Shroomly

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im 99% sure that no spill hit the leafs... i flushed my plant today with loads of water, so we'll see what happens..but i cant see how organic ocalizer nutrients can hurt one plant so badly and make the one next to it blossom so nicely...?
 

mared juwan

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Good news is, your plants are not burned too bad. I overdosed mine several times before I figured it out. You've flushed with water and that's good, just remember that the affected leaves will NEVER recover. Don't think you did the wrong thing because they aren't getting better, the new growth will be beautiful and cover up those damaged leaves before you know it. The affected leaves should not get much worse either, and when you see them get flat and papery in texture or start to yellow in the veins it means you need to bring back the nutes. Paperiness and yellowing are signs of potassium and nitrogen deficiencies but it is way better to be deficient than burn. If your leaves are waxy and shiny which they look like from the pics, it's not deficient. The most important lesson I've learned so far is that it takes at least 2-3 days to see what effects your treatments have on your plants. So if they're burned and you flushed them, it will take 2-3 days to stop burning. If they're deficient and you feed them, they will take 2-3 days to recover. So you've done the right thing, I'm sure of it. Now all you need is a little patience and they will get better.
 

Shroomly

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nice one mared!! that was very helpfull!! here'ssome new pics of the same leafs...

i've included a picture of both plants so u can see how much nicer the cheese looks right now...

when do you think should be a good time to start feeding again?
 

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mared juwan

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This is a progression of what a plant looks like when it is getting hungry for nutrients. What happened was I burned my plants exactly as you did, then was so worried about the burn I gave them nothing but water and they became deficient. You should read my journal in my sig. A lot of knowledgable people giving advice there:mrgreen: and you can see in more detail what happens at the extremes of too much/ too little nutes and when to start giving nutes again. And also check this International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! You'll find that these problems can be EXTREMELY tricky and complex with multiple factors contributing. Read as much as you can and don't take anybody's word as absolutely true (including mine:twisted:) but make up your own mind. And you haven't mentioned what you're doing about ph which I assume is something for them to make it this far.
 

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Shroomly

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thanx again, very helpful!! im just abit stuck now, not sure if to keep watering or go with nutes again...
 

dumasc

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From my own experiences and from what ive read, its best to wait 2-4 weeks before giving any nutes to the seedling. Seed starting soil is the best for starting seeds due to its low nute level. Id try starting in that let your babies get 4-6 sets of leaves on them before transplanting them into a more rich soil. Most soils sold have nutes already mixed into them that can burn new seedlings. I also learned this the hard way, practice makes perfect. It also depends on the strain, but any strain i would start in a low nute soil, then when bigger you can experiment with nute levels until you get your plants locked in. I hope this helps. Best of luck.
 

Shroomly

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thanx guys!! whatever happens, i get along with plants ;) whole house is covered in all kinds of fruit and veg but there is no more beautiful plant than the ganja!!
 

Shroomly

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new foliage looks ok but also few spots forming on it already!!! im gonna water with just water until i get my ph meter, i think the ph values is the actual issue in my plant...
 

Shroomly

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the soil was completely dry today so i've given it a bit more water, and what do you know, the leafs look even more wilted now..i dont get this plant...the one next to it is looking beyond perfect, and this one is struggeling...last year, the same seed did just fine outdoor, but indoor its suffering badly!!!
 

BCSKing

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the soil was completely dry today so i've given it a bit more water, and what do you know, the leafs look even more wilted now..i dont get this plant...the one next to it is looking beyond perfect, and this one is struggeling...last year, the same seed did just fine outdoor, but indoor its suffering badly!!!
when ever a plant gets water the leafs will naturly wilt because its drawing the water up that they need
 

Shroomly

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i know that, but this one doesnt look normal..i've had plants 4 times now, this one looks the worst...never had leafs going yellow and the new ones wilting like that...ill leave it till tomorrow eve and will post updated pix..cheers.
 

BCSKing

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i know that, but this one doesnt look normal..i've had plants 4 times now, this one looks the worst...never had leafs going yellow and the new ones wilting like that...ill leave it till tomorrow eve and will post updated pix..cheers.
weird when my plants died they were always dark green or light green
 

Shroomly

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king you were right....plant looks much better now...still tiny miniature spots forming but the worst is definitely over... the problem is im scared to feed anything to them as that might happen again...
 

mared juwan

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Yeah, try to get those pics as soon as you can. When you say the newest growth is affected, that worries me. I had intended to start my plants at .5mL/L but gave them 5mL/L a couple times. This is a severe overdose but the burn never reached the new growth, only the older leaves were mangled. I don't see how your plants could be burned so bad with just one treatment of organic nutes. The older growth is like your radar. It's going to tell you what will happen to the new growth if you don't fix the problem. So you'll see burn or deficiencies on the older growth first except in rare cases like iron deficiency. If you're new growth is affected --> not good.
 

mared juwan

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But the fact that you're saying miniature spots are forming is good. As my burn started to subside it went from big rust colored splotches like you had to little rusty speckles. These might be the same pics from before but you get the idea. First is initial burn, second end of burn.
 

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Shroomly

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i wouldnt even go as far as saying that the new growth has spots like the 2nd pic u just put up... way less spots, and much smaller, so i guess my plant is doing ok now.. but im gonna wait with nutes until my ph meter arrives... pics will come shortly!
 
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