When to harvest?

Chrisz0825

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I hate seeing the myth of flushing being spread around by those who don't know any better.

Listen...all nutrients are stored in the roots, all you're doing when flushing is ridding your plant's root zone of nutrients during a stage where it would normally being fattening up it's buds. You're gimping yourseling by flushing and only hurting your plant really. Need proof?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME @RM3 YOU'RE THE DUDE.
So it's important to keep feeding nutes up to the time you chop? I've read a lot about having a chemical taste in your smoke.
 

Budley Doright

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I hate seeing the myth of flushing being spread around by those who don't know any better.

Listen...all nutrients are stored in the roots, all you're doing when flushing is ridding your plant's root zone of nutrients during a stage where it would normally being fattening up it's buds. You're gimping yourseling by flushing and only hurting your plant really. Need proof?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME @RM3 YOU'RE THE DUDE.
Are you sure about nutrients staying in the roots? Pretty sure nutrients are transported to the leaves where they are processed for a simple explanation . I could be wrong as I'm not a up on my plant science, it's been a while since I cared lol. FYI I don't flush lol.
 

Dr. Who

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So it's important to keep feeding nutes up to the time you chop? I've read a lot about having a chemical taste in your smoke.
You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing".

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT!
Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plants is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can to "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. this self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line"...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

Start feeding again so the plant can beef up like it's supposed to!

Learn a proper dry and CURE!
 
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Budley Doright

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Unfortunately there is a lot more out there saying flush than not so it's easy to understand why it's done. For as long as I've been growing it's a common practice to flush as was defoliation and the debate continues :).
 

Budley Doright

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But please don't stop on my account, I love watching this stuff go kaboom, but I do grab some good stuff along the way ..... thanks Doc!!!
 

Chrisz0825

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But please don't stop on my account, I love watching this stuff go kaboom, but I do grab some good stuff along the way ..... thanks Doc!!!
I've been searching every corner of the Internet for a clear answer and I just can't seem to find it lol. My buds are big and dense and I'm worried if I stop feeding nutrients they won't gain anymore weight but, if there is a chemical taste it won't be very enjoyable to smoke. I'm at a fork in the road right now
 

Budley Doright

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I've been searching every corner of the Internet for a clear answer and I just can't seem to find it lol. My buds are big and dense and I'm worried if I stop feeding nutrients they won't gain anymore weight but, if there is a chemical taste it won't be very enjoyable to smoke. I'm at a fork in the road right now
Your in a great position to find out what you prefer, flush one and not the other. Your not going to destroy either and the lost weight will be minimal. Start flushing the one in a few days and feed the other and test everything and come back and join the debate :).
 

Chrisz0825

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Your in a great position to find out what you prefer, flush one and not the other. Your not going to destroy either and the lost weight will be minimal. Start flushing the one in a few days and feed the other and test everything and come back and join the debate :).
That's a great idea. I'm definitely going to give that a shot. Time to put this to rest
 

Budley Doright

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That's a great idea. I'm definitely going to give that a shot. Time to put this to rest
Hahaha to rest he says :). Seriously though try it, I'm curious to know what you think. I've used a flush once to get rid of a nasty taste from an additive, not sure how or why but it did work, other than that one time I've never noticed a difference, it did teach me not to use magic additive crap in my plants res :(
 
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