When watering fo you achieve a good run off??

I wish I could go look up close and personal some of these plants that don't get watered to runoff. I'd be curious to see how they really do look.

What a fucking shame this isn't totally legal.

We'd all be a lot smarter if everyone who wanted to was growing. We'd all have a half dozen neighbors to go check out and compare notes with.

Colorado seems more inviting every day...

You guys info I hope new grower can have a page like this where it's explained properly goods bads and definitely don't type of thread or make it a sticky for watering... Tho there is a water most essential compound. But I think it should have more information for new or even old school grower share their knowledge growers how they water and why they water like that...
I bet you guys didn't know raw honey produces trichomes. Most of my grows were chopped early by a week or two and still was the bomb lol same with a bag seeds it produces trichomes like no tomorrow... But these techniques are kept secret by other growers and it's not shared or taught. I learned the honey thing from my uncle he grows out doors in Tanzania and he has a hive.. From that hive comes his nutes lol so I do the same and waw, but I bet someone has a negative effect. I did with molasses it stunned my plants but would like to hear from you guys have you tried an old traditional ways? Or should I start another thread lol

I think that post is awesome,I love sharing information with old school people and newbs as well. However I do not enjoy arguing with others about anything , it would be refreshing if people could openly talk without others slinging crapulence. This is what I do blah, blah , blah !cool, here is what I do blah , blah , blah ! Take any pertinent information from the conversation and dismiss the rest , no need to bash someone's intelligence or make them feel foolish. Yes, I did know about honey but I've actually forgotten all about it. See, if ya didn't bring this up I would still be forgetting it! Bravo my guy! I've been using molasses with bitchen results also.

I and the lady's find it better I think it's the sugar in the honey is more natural, from flowers and easy to digest than black gunk... It has good carbs plus I can chop when I feel like it with sweet buds tho three days before I applied it to them lol it might be because of the run off thing I do but with crystals it works with every strain I grow especially delahaze... Delahaze was that iced I chopped at week 5 lol because no good shit available so it was a must than wasting cash and still regret it but my god it was nice as hell all white trichs... But yeah my uncle swore by it and when I go to Tanzania and smoke his sativa you get a really trippy high. Honey is magic that no one wants to use..
I use it for my porridge aswel lol I share it between me and my lady's lmao
Keep em sweet they'll keep you happy

Labs Dexter said:

I and the lady's find it better I think it's the sugar in the honey is more natural, from flowers and easy to digest than black gunk... It has good carbs plus I can chop when I feel like it with sweet buds tho three days before I applied it to them lol it might be because of the run off thing I do but with crystals it works with every strain I grow especially delahaze... Delahaze was that iced I chopped at week 5 lol because no good shit available so it was a must than wasting cash and still regret it but my god it was nice as hell all white trichs... But yeah my uncle swore by it and when I go to Tanzania and smoke his sativa you get a really trippy high. Honey is magic that no one wants to use..
I use it for my porridge aswel lol I share it between me and my lady's lmao
Keep em sweet they'll keep you happy

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Honey. I love it. You give them honey like when others like myself would give them molasses? Is there CalMag in honey too?

No honey has no cal mag I don't think mainly full of carbs and easy already digested sugars from flowers. I did have a chart of diffidence I know molasses has a shit load of PK tho and it's like a frikkin flowering nute lol, but yeah I had negative effects do I scrapped it out the planner

This question doesn't take into account passive drip systems that never really run off, necessarily. I use Blumats. I get runoff when I set them up, then I just let it drip.

I am shocked at how many actually run off lol no wonder most of the grows on this site are in sad shape in organics when you water to run off your leaching what food the microbes made ,, makes no sense at all ,, same thing applies for chem everyone uses the well your ridding the soil of its salts lol. seriously why not give them enough nutes to use all of it rather then running off makes no sense at all really
i grow in totes with out any drain holes this means no run off what so ever .. and guess what they kick ass ..
sooner people learn that MJ does not need as much volume your watering it you will see much better results TRuth is growers water to much to begin with

Since when does a drenched medium actually do better ?? actually your drowning the plant there is absolutely no other way to look at it
MJ does grow better in dryer soils then wetter there fore its wise to give them water in portions rather then flooding to run off
if you do not believe try it
i mean take one plant do your normal flood to drain and on other one do the couple cups or liters every other day you will soon see which plant actually out grows the other GUARNTEED

I started doing it because of ph issues.
I don't grow in organic and I believe soft water washes all your nutes away but hard it stays there unless you do run off.
Each to their own and I will post you my best grow yet number 5.
This is the healthiest I ever green and thanks to run off and adjusting the nutes
Excusemy toes.
The only time I would not recommend run off is if you roots have not had developed fully to the soil or in English when the pot is too big for your plants.
If your terms are low and humidity in grow room.
I water mine every three days..... Drench, dripp and then back in, and I can tell you I have improved.
I live in England so I don't keep photos of past grows if I could you would be asking me what's the point in growing.
That's why I advice run off UNTILL YOU MASTER PH FLUX AND NUTRIENTS SCHEDULE or you will be the next person asking what's wrong with this lady

Isn't it mandatory to drain to waste in 'coco'? I am not an experienced grower by any means but I am growing in coco at the moment (canna professional plus) and have done a fair bit of research into it. Everything I've read has said to drain to waste (10-30%) and that you should never let coco fully dry out unless you have recently transplanted the plant and it's still forming its root structure in its new container. Other than that you should be letting the coco dry out about 50% before watering again to runoff. Because coco is like a halfway point between soil hydroponics and soil allowing you to get awesome results from coco if you know how to water it properly..

I let my coco dry out the first inch before waterring

What a load of CRAP!

You do not "need" to water to run off or have a % of run off when watering!

If you don't over feed you will never have a problem!

Run off is simply a waste of nutrient! AND YOUR MONEY!!!

Don't even get me started on H&G ! Their fucking "DRIP CLEAN" turns soil into a BRICK!

I watered a metered amount every day at lights on. Enough to carry me to the next day at lights on.
I feed everyday when I used synthetic nutrients!

I still do the daily watering thing with my organic!

Labs Dexter said:

I started doing it because of ph issues.
I don't grow in organic and I believe soft water washes all your nutes away but hard it stays there unless you do run off.
Each to their own and I will post you my best grow yet number 5.
This is the healthiest I ever green and thanks to run off and adjusting the nutes View attachment 3529042
Excusemy toes.
The only time I would not recommend run off is if you roots have not had developed fully to the soil or in English when the pot is too big for your plants.
If your terms are low and humidity in grow room.
I water mine every three days..... Drench, dripp and then back in, and I can tell you I have improved.
I live in England so I don't keep photos of past grows if I could you would be asking me what's the point in growing.
That's why I advice run off UNTILL YOU MASTER PH FLUX AND NUTRIENTS SCHEDULE or you will be the next person asking what's wrong with this lady

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I advise you learn how to feed better first!
Why are you attempting to pH soil? Over feeding is what screwed your pH in the first place!
The water source is important! Go RO and use a Ca/Mg and forget about hard and soft!
If you worry to much (pH) and can't change......Simply pH ALL in-going fluids to 6.5 and forget about soil pH!
The soil pH will drop around a whole point when you water. It returns to normal as it dries out. Over-watering screws your pH fast!
this pH "flux" is natural and allows even nutrient uptake as nutrients are best available at differing pH ranges!

BTW - you have a bad case of TOLIO

I try to get a little run off about once a week just so I can gauge changes in daily watering needs. I'm currently running about 4-5 gallons per day per plant most days and I don't ever let my pots go completely dry. Why? I'm in a greenhouse that gets hot! Letting my soil go completely dry only gives me wilted plants. Cool and rainy today so maybe no water today? Just depends on environmental factors for what I do every day. I personally think that people with overwatering problems really have soil mix problems as their core issue. Get the aeration elements up to 25-30% of volume and I find it difficult to produce an overwatered leaf structure no matter how much you want to water because you're always bringing in fresh oxygen.

Last year's soil analysis recommended 6 inches of leaching to take down my salt levels in an organic soil. This was done a few months before I started using the soil, but does show you can get salt build ups in organic soils, especially if you've used manure based composts. So I say fuck watering rules, not all grows are comparable.

Bugeye said:

I try to get a little run off about once a week just so I can gauge changes in daily watering needs. I'm currently running about 4-5 gallons per day per plant most days and I don't ever let my pots go completely dry. Why? I'm in a greenhouse that gets hot! Letting my soil go completely dry only gives me wilted plants. Cool and rainy today so maybe no water today? Just depends on environmental factors for what I do every day. I personally think that people with overwatering problems really have soil mix problems as their core issue. Get the aeration elements up to 25-30% of volume and I find it difficult to produce an overwatered leaf structure no matter how much you want to water because you're always bringing in fresh oxygen.

Last year's soil analysis recommended 6 inches of leaching to take down my salt levels in an organic soil. This was done a few months before I started using the soil, but does show you can get salt build ups in organic soils, especially if you've used manure based composts. So I say fuck watering rules, not all grows are comparable.

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I'll buy into part of this!

Dr. Who said:

What a load of CRAP!

You do not "need" to water to run off or have a % of run off when watering!

If you don't over feed you will never have a problem!

Run off is simply a waste of nutrient! AND YOUR MONEY!!!

Don't even get me started on H&G ! Their fucking "DRIP CLEAN" turns soil into a BRICK!

I watered a metered amount every day at lights on. Enough to carry me to the next day at lights on.
I feed everyday when I used synthetic nutrients!

I still do the daily watering thing with my organic!

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Can i just be clear i was referring to "coco" NOT soil

calzone said:

Can i just be clear i was referring to "coco" NOT soil

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The OP was talking soil...

OK but, still NO. Coco should be leached every cpl of weeks for "salt" build ups. Watering till run off will not clear everything, it may slow the "need" to for a bit. Coco likes to attract and hold nutrient salts - even with RTW....in time..

Dr. Who said:

The OP was talking soil...

OK but, still NO. Coco should be leached every cpl of weeks for "salt" build ups. Watering till run off will not clear everything, it may slow the "need" to for a bit. Coco likes to attract and hold nutrient salts - even with RTW....in time..

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You're saying you should only water coco to run off once every 2 weeks?

I'm by no means experienced grower but i have done alot of research into coco and pretty much EVERYTHING i've read and watched has said to water til run off daily unless you have recently transplanted.

I'm not arguing, i'm an avid learner and your opinion is valid as anyone elses. I like to call it healthy debate with idea being to filter out the bs and get to the TRUTH.

Honestly you're one of the only people i've heard say to water coco to run off only once every 2 weeks. It goes against everything i've ever learnt.

Im growing in #3 pots with pro mix hp.
It takes exactly 1g to water these with maybe 5% runoff. Just enough to let you know that it's saturated. I don't know if this is acceptable but it makes it so easy to mix and apply.