When Will USA Fall?

The government should do what I did when I was short on funds, got a roommate and grew more pot. Fucking pansies.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-05-01-usda-food-supply_N.htm

The federal government has no surplus food reserves.

Balzac89 said:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-05-01-usda-food-supply_N.htm

The federal government has no surplus food reserves.

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That just means that we have a strong agricultural economy right now. No need to be worried. Ghetto kids get less cheese, though. I know how them kids like cheese, so that kinda sucks for them.

My point is we cannot afford a disaster.

think about it guys
that much oil in the ocean?
right before SUMMER?
that's gonna be fuckkkkkkked up
prices are high as fuck normally in summer....
not to mention that it would break up but also SPREAD faster because of the heat.
lol
fuck dude! we're dead!

disasters won't do in this country, neither will a temporary lack of faith in the economy or all these sorry attempts to warp the meaning of the constitution. it will take the total abandonment of america's basic values to cause our collapse. we might not maintain our place at the top of the global food chain, but we will remain a leader simply because we have the resources to excel and the rest of the western world is linked to our survival. china has surged into a dominant position, but there is plenty of room at the top for competition. in fact, competition can only help to further the goals that lie down america's path. we spent decades vying with the soviet union for political domination and spent some time worrying over japan's economic rise. both have faltered, just as we are doing now, and both will find a resurgence, just as we will. the danger isn't that we will fall, but that we will allow ourselves to become so complacent that we lose our way and become the sort of haven for mediocrity that europe is. we can follow them over the edge into stagnation or we can regain our footing and again find the path that led us to becoming a world power. we just have to quit making excuses for our failures and berating ourselves for our successes.

i dnt think well fail at least for fifty years n by then ill be dead hopefylly

undertheice said:

disasters won't do in this country, neither will a temporary lack of faith in the economy or all these sorry attempts to warp the meaning of the constitution. it will take the total abandonment of america's basic values to cause our collapse. we might not maintain our place at the top of the global food chain, but we will remain a leader simply because we have the resources to excel and the rest of the western world is linked to our survival. china has surged into a dominant position, but there is plenty of room at the top for competition. in fact, competition can only help to further the goals that lie down america's path. we spent decades vying with the soviet union for political domination and spent some time worrying over japan's economic rise. both have faltered, just as we are doing now, and both will find a resurgence, just as we will. the danger isn't that we will fall, but that we will allow ourselves to become so complacent that we lose our way and become the sort of haven for mediocrity that europe is. we can follow them over the edge into stagnation or we can regain our footing and again find the path that led us to becoming a world power. we just have to quit making excuses for our failures and berating ourselves for our successes.

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what a crock of shit. america has lost its 'basic values' over a hundred years ago. before central bank became the supreme controller and regulator of our financial system and money supply. you and I are no longer america. we've lost it a long time ago. we gave it up when woodrow wilson signed the bill that passed the federal reserve. we gave more of it up when we let george bush sign away our rights and liberties in replace of some false sense of security. americas 'basic values' are money, money, money.

it wont belong before pot is legal, but as far as the USA becoming a third world country is bullshit. I am a former stock broker( and smoker) and we have the LARGEST, BIGGEST. MOST LIQUID, markets in the entire world.( not to mention the best military, i.e. who comes calling for help? whos the first country to stand up and not give a fuck if the rest of the world thinks we are bullies) but point being when anyone in the world wants to make money, and not a couple million, but im talking REAL money, they ALWAYS invest in the US in one shape or another.

*GO FISHING HIGH, YOU'LL AT LEAST CATCH A BUZZ*

all of these god damn distractions they rape our minds with. these are dark times in the world. it may be hard for those in the 'developed' world to understand. whom are in a blind bubble of false security, false satisfaction, and a false promise from their goverment that if they do what they want them to do, that they will be happy with their lives. you listen to your media. they cram your brain with so much bullshit that you believe the bullshit is real. these democrats, republicans. are no different. they put us in groups. categorize. make us only care for the people we are close to and not the people that we dont know. globalization is the end of the free mind. end of the free world. everyone is becoming slaves to money. slaves to debt. there is only one thing that can save the world, the planet. and that is a total cleansing. we poison ourselves, our planet. we kill our brothers and sisters and are even proud of it. well i'll tell ya. patriotism is bullshit. just another way for them to separate ourselves from our other brothers and sisters. you keep doing your job. keep earning money to buy things and to maintain your poisonous way of life. for most of you have already lost yourselves before the age of 1.

one11 said:

all of these god damn distractions they rape our minds with. these are dark times in the world. it may be hard for those in the 'developed' world to understand. whom are in a blind bubble of false security, false satisfaction, and a false promise from their goverment that if they do what they want them to do, that they will be happy with their lives. you listen to your media. they cram your brain with so much bullshit that you believe the bullshit is real. these democrats, republicans. are no different. they put us in groups. categorize. make us only care for the people we are close to and not the people that we dont know. globalization is the end of the free mind. end of the free world. everyone is becoming slaves to money. slaves to debt. there is only one thing that can save the world, the planet. and that is a total cleansing. we poison ourselves, our planet. we kill our brothers and sisters and are even proud of it. well i'll tell ya. patriotism is bullshit. just another way for them to separate ourselves from our other brothers and sisters. you keep doing your job. keep earning money to buy things and to maintain your poisonous way of life. for most of you have already lost yourselves before the age of 1.

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one11 just shut shit down

one11 said:

all of these god damn distractions they rape our minds with. these are dark times in the world. it may be hard for those in the 'developed' world to understand. whom are in a blind bubble of false security, false satisfaction, and a false promise from their goverment that if they do what they want them to do, that they will be happy with their lives. you listen to your media. they cram your brain with so much bullshit that you believe the bullshit is real. these democrats, republicans. are no different. they put us in groups. categorize. make us only care for the people we are close to and not the people that we dont know. globalization is the end of the free mind. end of the free world. everyone is becoming slaves to money. slaves to debt. there is only one thing that can save the world, the planet. and that is a total cleansing. we poison ourselves, our planet. we kill our brothers and sisters and are even proud of it. well i'll tell ya. patriotism is bullshit. just another way for them to separate ourselves from our other brothers and sisters. you keep doing your job. keep earning money to buy things and to maintain your poisonous way of life. for most of you have already lost yourselves before the age of 1.

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Couldn't have put it better myself. Very well said.

I still say that we should move in with Canada and they can pay half our bills.

im in the U.K so i dont know alot bout american economics, what america and pretty much most of the world is doing now is predicted, as the wealth gap gets bigger, as the many get poorer and the fewer get richer, shit gets worse for us, this happened in russia before 1917, then 1917 came, u may hate me for bein a commie but face facts, capitalism doesnt survive, the biggest capitalist icon is gonna colapse within the next hundred years, those gates around rich peoples houses arent to stop animals, its to stop us, the revolution is inevitable and its either socialism or national socialism that comes out, as america which 1 do u choose?

fishing420stoner said:

it wont belong before pot is legal, but as far as the USA becoming a third world country is bullshit. I am a former stock broker( and smoker) and we have the LARGEST, BIGGEST. MOST LIQUID, markets in the entire world.( not to mention the best military, i.e. who comes calling for help? whos the first country to stand up and not give a fuck if the rest of the world thinks we are bullies) but point being when anyone in the world wants to make money, and not a couple million, but im talking REAL money, they ALWAYS invest in the US in one shape or another.

*GO FISHING HIGH, YOU'LL AT LEAST CATCH A BUZZ*

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Bloomberg.com.... posted that the IMF wants to degrade us... if you really were a stockbroker and not a forum troll you'd know bloomberg is a reputable financial reporting agency.

Wow. My friend who works with nomadic pastorolists in Africa tells me that one of the most valuable things she can give them, something that really improves their lives for years to come, is a plastic garbage bag. That's poor man. We're communicating on computers -- a pretty powerful tool for our economy to have. Literacy.
I met a Russian immigrant a decade ago who told me that they used to call America the place "Where dogs don't bite, and babies don't cry." Don't cry with that starving to death tone, anyway. :>O
American lawn grass isn't native to the country. Its an ornament who's real purpose was to demonstrate that not only do you have enough wealth to grow something other than food, you have enough wealth to waste the time others spend growing food doing something so freaking useless.
We're raised with a apocalyptic death religions. Hard to get over that mythical drama, even if you give up church, eh?

I'm an accountant, and all i can say is that if i did companies books the way the government does theirs that i would be looking at spending the rest of my life in a cell next to Bernie Madoff. If you actually read the govenments financial statements and think about what they actually mean once all the adjustments for this and the allowances for that are factored in it becomes obvious that we are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy, and that we have to force the government to quit spending so much money. It is equally obvious that nearly 60% of the governments budget is pre-spent on two programs: medicare and social security. Add in our new health plan and that percentage is going to increase. I'm sorry folks, but we can't cut the budget enough to make any sort of meaningful difference without making major cuts in those programs, and I'm not talking about a few billion from each. The government has made promises for the last 30 years that it couldn't keep, and the majority of us went along for the ride. Now we have to pay the bills, and it's not going to be a lot of fun for any of us.

Military budget under the last regime became larger than medicare and medicade combined. Estimates ranged from 48% to 51% of the entire world's military expenditures were ours, and that didn't include the two wars. Military budget went up more under the present administration. The whole of Europe spends less than 25% of it. China is number 2 and spends less than half. The combined military expenditures of Korea, Iran, and Iraq (previous to our invasion) was less than 1% of it, back in 2003. 1-3% of it was our expenditure for education.
And military budget wasn't the biggest hit for the Soviets. It was corruption first, and military expenditures number 2. But when they "collapsed", it meant roads went unrepaired. It didn't mean the concrete evaporated, right? We don't have to worry about starving to death. We have to worry about continuing to have highways full of single occupancy vehicles, extraordinary obesity and the latest greatest electronica being less prevalent.
Peace

Just a thought
I dont think i carry the same knowledge on the subject as some of you do but,
perhaps would we try to just fight our way out? wage war on countries and take them
for our economic means? I just thought that was kind of a possibility seeing that
we are so invested in our military. Just a thought please dont flame the hell out
of me haha. I just find it hard to believe that the government would just roll over
and be like okay were broke we will give all our stuff away now.


Although the previously mentioned riots could be fun.

We the people may put up with alot of shit from out government, but ain't no one fucking taking the Constitution away.

That saying "Live Free or Die" isn't just some fucking saying. You'd have to kill me before you'd get away with taking away the Constitution, along with millions of other people. Like America would literally sit completely idle if the it was taken away. Yes, it's been fuck with in so many wrong ways for decades, but it's still there.

You guys are all very worried about money. I dig that. We all need money to survive.

What is going on worldwide is an awakening. It is being brought about by the media, movies, music, ect. Everywhere your subconscious is being filled with spiritual things these days. All along this, your physical world is starting to be torn down. The media is starting to side with ideals and things that they say are true but you do not, and this causes Cognitive Dissonance. From there on, you are easily programmed into resisting what they are doing FURTHER FACILITATING THE CRASH ANYWAYS.

They want people to protest. They can then put a few bad apples into the mix and turn a peaceful riot into a planned chaos, much like you are seeing happening now in Greece. Do you think ANY of this was not planned?! Im sure it all started as a peaceful demonstration, much like our tea party movement is organizing.. then some hired monkeys show up and create chaos. I can show you examples of this happening already in America. Once we are programmed to accept that anytime we demonstrate it turns into a riot, they are justified in their military police state.

The problem I see is that some people ARE going to resist. They are going to get angry. They are going to want to "vote" to change us back to some constitutional ideal America of the past, but the problem is that they HAVE YOU BELIEVING THAT VOTING WORKS. Oh the cognitive dissonance of it is stinging.. You vote for a leader, the leader serves the same people behind the scenes bidding and you end up footing the bill, the energy, the time and the place for it.. all the while you think you can change something but the progress down the road stays the same and nothing ever gets solved. The big problem is that all three sides are controlled because the game is FIXED. Everybody has been bought and paid for by their own desires.

What they, the powers that be want is for us to get SICK of all this stuff enough to bring about ONE person.. who will suggest that the world unifies for the cause of humanity, saving the planet, and ending war.. one nation, one language.. one people. Babylon. TO bring this about they have to destroy all nationals, all money, all sickness, and just about most of humanity. The only way to do that is a WAR.

The very thing they want you to do is resist, which is start waring against the machine. That way they can seize control offer the solution and savior to unify us.

Also forget that natural disasters can happen and have been happening this year at an advanced rate. Say for instance a HUGE one on the Gulf right now. But what if the San Andreas Fault and the Pacific plate near Nor Cal/Oregon/Washington ruptured this summer/late fall? The agricultural damage for the WORLD would cause a significant crash, but the USA would not be able to recover from losing a great deal of California's agricultural crop. What if the New Madrid fault line ruptured? The simple facts are historically ALL those fault lines are due to rupture at any time and the ripple effects would be catastrophic.

War is next too.. there is a push in the middle east for people to bring the battle to Israel. America and Britain will verily defend Israel, which puts London on a list possible for terrorist attacks even of the nuclear kind. Our whole lives they were preparing us with the movies for nuclear attacks on Baltimore, NYC, LA, Washington, Miami, DC.. there are lists out there and charts drawn up. I think none of this is any kind of coincidence, i don't believe coincidences happen in the occult world we live in. The middle east must be unified to look much like babylon.. there is lots of work to do. I will leave you with the words of Albert Pike of what they will do and have WELL set about in place already if you don't believe that the conspiracy is occult:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

The Financial Collapse started last year when they were declaring the recession over. The Inflation measures that they set in place too effect then, but they have been slowed down by the small chips crashing, you know, Spain, Greece.. soon the Euro will be teetering and putting pressure on the USD which has nowhere to go but down and then they will need a new world currency. Get it?

There is also something else going on with bond markets, which are backed by gold and silver which are oversold 100:1. Which means that if the bond markets are oversold.. can you guess how little that dollar in your pocket is worth.

All in all, if Weed costs as much as Gold.. get ready for $400,000 an ounce prices. Can you barter a home and a hummer for your ounce of pot? I don't think so ... were in for some serious problems farmers.

spandy said:

We the people may put up with alot of shit from out government, but ain't no one fucking taking the Constitution away.

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You cannot use the constitution to defend yourself as you are not party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438,520)

We The People does not mean you and me (Baron vs. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore 32 U.S. 243)

From my understanding the constitution does not really go to state any facts about the landmass, the people, or anything specifically but it is a great SOUNDING document that has fooled many. We the people of the united states, was never defined at all. We the people is nobody, possibly only arguable that the people who signed it agreed upon nothing for anything other than themselves and since we the people does not exist as an entity or was not defined as any human person or any civilization going forward, it would be hersay to assume that you and me are party to anything in that document. We did sign agreements with our social security card to be global citizens of a corporate state. Any questions? Contact a lawyer or go to Law School. I should add I'm not a lawyer and should not be giving out legal advice. or is it advise?

either way. the cognitive dissonance continues.. even for me. Was what I just said real?!?! or not? Shit, some days I believe i've totally enslaved with no recorse. Other days I think I'm a citizen and being a good one at that.