Where did your God come from?

tyler.durden said:

As Panhead stated above, it is a matter of faith, not evidence. I don't have the faith gene, so I do not believe. Logically speaking, introducing a deity to explain anything only compounds the problem. Which is your question, where did the creator come from? Some say that their god has always existed, and had no beginning. If that's the case, why not say the universe/multi-verse has always existed and cut out the middleman?

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Still Illogical. I kind of asked an unanswerable question. Just wanting to see peoples opinions on it. I just enjoy the conversations there's no way any of us will know until the day were gone.

Sativied said:

'God is the infinite, necessarily existing, unique substance of the universe. There is only one substance in the universe; it is God; and everything else that is, is in God.'

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/#GodNat

God is not a being, a creator, or a man in the sky. That's like describing an elephant with the intelligence of an ant. God is everything and everywhere, everything is god. I am god, you are god, we are all god, this joint is god too, and so is the fire and the smoke, and the universe its in.

God is everything, and therefore nothing meaningful.

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So You believe God is everything has nothing to do with religion

If GOD exists (BiG IF) then gotta be E.T. No I don't mean tha little fat guy with tha Glowing stomach...Me I think We is just an accident and/or several factors to do with tha Planets evolution...End of tha day Mankind is just like a Plague...

the space we live in could quite easily be someones lucid dream which they have mastered a skill to stay in the dream and never wake up ...... This is possible.

the world could be a clever lucid creation which is indestructible and actually runs on its own without the need for lucid subconscious creator....... If its possible to imagine, its possible to created.



god could be a person either Trapped or purposely self trapped in a lucid dream ...... Again this is possible.



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if god was a person on earth, would he have the ability to have and stay in a lucid dream?..... Forever.

who know's?

tyler.durden said:

As Panhead stated above, it is a matter of faith, not evidence. I don't have the faith gene, so I do not believe. Logically speaking, introducing a deity to explain anything only compounds the problem. Which is your question, where did the creator come from? Some say that their god has always existed, and had no beginning. If that's the case, why not say the universe/multi-verse has always existed and cut out the middleman?

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this is what I think of the religious word faith...number 1 its another word for belief... number 2 according to their book they would all be doomed because they have no faith...number 3 they don't even know the meaning of the word according to the biblical definition...
Mat 13:58 And the works of power which he did there were small in number because they had no faith.
Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief
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mainliner said:

god is the light

god is everything

god made all matter

the sun is made of all matter

god existed before everything ...... Everything is made of matter

light was before matter ...... God is light ...... God is everthing.


sub-atomic particles explains this.


light is coloured......a rainbow is his signature.

"" and i leave my bow(rainbow) in the clouds with an agreement with the earths people""

god was light before flesh or any living or non living matter .

this i know is true.

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Lol

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mainliner said:

the space we live in could quite easily be someones lucid dream which they have mastered a skill to stay in the dream and never wake up ...... This is possible.

the world could be a clever lucid creation which is indestructible and actually runs on its own without the need for lucid subconscious creator....... If its possible to imagine, its possible to created.



god could be a person either Trapped or purposely self trapped in a lucid dream ...... Again this is possible.



????????????????????


if god was a person on earth, would he have the ability to have and stay in a lucid dream?..... Forever.

who know's?

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I like the idea of being in someone sick dream

thepenofareadywriter said:

this is what I think of the religious word faith...number 1 its another word for belief... number 2 according to their book they would all be doomed because they have no faith...number 3 they don't even know the meaning of the word according to the biblical definition...
Mat 13:58 And the works of power which he did there were small in number because they had no faith.
Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief
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I have always looked at faith as having confidence in your belief.

the books Imo explain a childlike view on creation ..... " then there was light" .... " then the sea was made " ect etc

if the book was written by a scientist it would be sooooooooo much different .

i think it was Hawkins who said...." science has explained how the world was created without the need for a creator"



quantum entanglement proves every single matter is connected in some conscious/field way but the question is ...... How can this be?

a dream, an eternal entity of light, a poor soul which has been tortured in the deepth of darkness until light was the only conclusion ... ?? Or non of these.

who knows??

mainliner said:

the books Imo explain a childlike view on creation ..... " then there was light" .... " then the sea was made " ect etc

if the book was written by a scientist it would be sooooooooo much different .

i think it was Hawkins who said...." science has explained how the world was created without the need for a creator"



quantum entanglement proves every single matter is connected in some conscious/field way but the question is ...... How can this be?

a dream, an eternal entity of light, a poor soul which has been tortured in the deepth of darkness until light was the only conclusion ... ?? Or non of these.

who knows??

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No one except god if he Exist knows.

mainliner said:

the books Imo explain a childlike view on creation ..... " then there was light" .... " then the sea was made " ect etc

if the book was written by a scientist it would be sooooooooo much different .

i think it was Hawkins who said...." science has explained how the world was created without the need for a creator"



quantum entanglement proves every single matter is connected in some conscious/field way but the question is ...... How can this be?

a dream, an eternal entity of light, a poor soul which has been tortured in the deepth of darkness until light was the only conclusion ... ?? Or non of these.

who knows??

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Yeah you think if God created all this stuff he would explain it a little more and his book of everything we're supposed to know.

budlover13 said:

I have always looked at faith as having confidence in your belief.

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I think that's the way most people see it... as a confidence, but biblically...it requires evidence, real biblical faith would be if you believe the empty cup will have coffee in it after praying to the god for coffee... there will be coffee...no coffee= no faith...that's according to biblical rules

thepenofareadywriter said:

I realize that it is all a story...but as far as the story goes...calling the light day and the darkness night could be a division...just a thought

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But what could have happened had he called the darkness day and the light night.....? OMG oops I mean OM? I don't know where we came from but I'm just glad to be here !

superloud said:

Yeah you think if God created all this stuff he would explain it a little more and his book of everything we're supposed to know.

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the book wasn't written when god decided to intervine with Jesus or who ever .

god didn't write the book and if the words in the book are gods words then there a teenage guide to help us through what she couldn't fix with Jesus ....... All man wanted to do was kill god.

this is wrong.


god could have explained everything in the book through whoever write them but we couldn't even get the grasp of Love correctly ...... To explain the truth would be something held back untill we grow up .

the truth will be revealed as explained in the book.

its either someones lucid dream or an energy of light which has evoled into what we see today ............. The intellectual process of creation is just astounding wether its a dream or its actually an entity of light.

astounding !


i don't like the idea that this whole creation is a plan ...... A plan for what?

i believe God is as amazed at what she has created as much as we are .

gods created billions of him/her self ....... We ARE gods but young like teenagers ......... Our different levels of wisdom explain this.

how wise are you now compared to when you was 19 years old ? ........ Imagine how different we would think in a million years let alone the second the gates of heaven lock shut behind us forever ..... FOREVER!!

oldtimer54 said:

But what could have happened had he called the darkness day and the light night.....? OMG oops I mean OM? I don't know where we came from but I'm just glad to be here !

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my sleeping routine would be all messed up...I hear that !

oldtimer54 said:

But what could have happened had he called the darkness day and the light night.....? OMG oops I mean OM? I don't know where we came from but I'm just glad to be here !

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Yeah I'm just enjoying the ride I would just like to know a little bit more about the car I'm in

superloud said:

Yeah I'm just enjoying the ride I would just like to know a little bit more about the car I'm in

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lol
your car is made of subatomic packets of energy held together by magnetic forces etc etc ...... Its not solid, you cant touch it because your finger molecules/packets of energy repel against the car molecules.......... Nothing is solid and we never actually touch anything .lol .

you did ask hope this helps

mainliner said:

lol
your car is made of subatomic packets of energy held together by magnetic forces etc etc ...... Its not solid, you cant touch it because your finger molecules/packets of energy repel against the car molecules.......... Nothing is solid and we never actually touch anything .lol .

you did ask hope this helps

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Yeah that was a metaphor. But I suppose your explanation applies to everything

mainliner said:

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Blew my mind just now.