Who do you prefer for 2012 President of the USA? If your one vote sealed the deal

If your vote sealed the deal who would you pick of the options we have for 2012 POTUS

  • Goldman Sachs/ Big Pharma/Oil, Militarty Industrial Complex, The Police state

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • Ron Paul

    Votes: 22 68.8%

  • Total voters
    32

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul is nowehere on that level at all. The corporations DON'T want Ron Paul to get elected and that should be obvious to anyone.
That's simply a load of crap. Ron Paul is a hedge fund manager's wet dream. Corporate America would love nothing more than a Ron Paul presidency. He'd give them everything they ever wanted. Less rules. That's what they want. Ron Paul would give that to him. They aren't funding Ron Paul's campaign as much because he's a crackpot and a political joke with no chance of winning anything.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Imo Ron Paul will run 3rd party if he doesn't get the nod and he will get my vote. What harm is there in doing so? Doesn't matter if Obama wins or one of the Rep candidates. They are all the same in my book.
I support Ron Paul as a third party candidate 100%
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
At a Party One usually is attracted to what they want or not what they want but if you drink enough it can be what you get.

Third Party Blah Blah...

Like Hoover and Skirts!
 

Carthoris

Well-Known Member
thats option A - perry the globalist who sold 12 year old girls for 30 grand, you wonder why he doesn't know what he wants to cut? Its because he will do what THEY tell him to do....Perry was at bilderburg, he wants to go back into the iraq war, he wants to destroy our soveriegnty...
I can buy a chinese or mexican girl for 1/4 of that. This bullshit is part of the reason I don't buy american products anymore!
 

deprave

New Member
That's simply a load of crap. Ron Paul is a hedge fund manager's wet dream. Corporate America would love nothing more than a Ron Paul presidency. He'd give them everything they ever wanted. Less rules. That's what they want. Ron Paul would give that to him. They aren't funding Ron Paul's campaign as much because he's a crackpot and a political joke with no chance of winning anything.
So your sayign Ron Paul is a hedge fund managers wet dream? As opposed to the...hedge fund manager Mitt Romney...
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Both would allow hedge fund managers to do what ever they want.
Hedgehog hedgehog in de pot....dem don' eat de stew 'til de stew is hot.

or put another way....everybody should be allowed to do whatever they want, if you eat a stew that is too hot whom is responsible for that?
 

Brick Top

New Member
Corporate America would love nothing more than a Ron Paul presidency. He'd give them everything they ever wanted. Less rules. That's what they want. Ron Paul would give that to him.

Yep, he would do pretty much exactly as you said, well, he would if he could rule by decree rather than having to ask what would be a less than kind and generous congress for legislation that many would be against and hope they will write it and then pass it so then he could sign it so it would then happen.

For Ron Paul, that should be simple .... as simple as peeling a turtle.

Now if he could do as you said a small number of people would earn a massive amount of money, but at the same time the largest amount of corporate and business operating capital ever has been sat on, unused, would largely go to growth and expansion and jobs and paychecks that seem small when compared to those lucky few who receives obscenely large checks, if not for those obscenely large ones the smaller ones would never have existed, making them as much smaller as could be possible. Then all those new smaller checks would be taxed and they would be spent buying things they both need and just want .... and just like that cash is flowing and people are buying and others have to work to make what they're buying and so on and so on and so on .... and as that great democrat JFK said; "a rising tide lifts all boats."

Instead Obama has created a hostile relationship with everything from small businesses to the largest corporations. He created an atmosphere of confusion and increased costs that has caused caution and pessimism in everything from small businesses to the largest corporations. That is why they are sitting on such massive amounts of unused operating capital.

As much as it sounds crazy to some, and even distasteful to others, it is what is needed now. It's not the best long term solution, but it is the only viable short term solution. The U.S. really only has one horse to ride out of the desert on and they need to ride it until it's ready to drop and in the meantime think up and have 'Plan B' ready to take over.

Let one guy do all he can to make the most of what little we have to work with and let it do what it does best, things will get better while riding that horse to it's last breath and later let someone else who would be more qualified for it design a whole new plan and have it in place and switch to it at the proper time.

People want an instant or overnight change that will alter everything that is rotten. There is just no way to do it quickly. We brought a fat girl to the dance and now our only hope to have some fun in the semi-near future is dance her hard until she needs to sit, take a rest, eat a wild boar, and while she's doing that you pick up a thin chick you've had your eye on all night and blow that Popsicle stand.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
.... as simple as peeling a turtle.
thank you! :clap:

it is catching on.

..."a rising tide lifts all boats."
tell that to the people standing on shore who drown.

supply side economics have been practiced for over 30 years now, we have seen what happens. wages have been stagnant despite increased productivity and more money has gone to the top. this is not rhetoric, this is verifiable historical fact.

.Instead Obama has created a hostile relationship...an atmosphere of confusion an...has caused caution and pessimism...That is why they are sitting on such massive amounts of unused operating capital.
LOL.

yes, obama magically made everyone scared. it wasn't the massive recession we were mired in when he assumed office, it was all just "barack the magic negro" and his magic death beam of uncertainty.

i'm sure lowered aggregate demand has NOTHING at all to do with any of this. hell, it's not like aggregate demand has any effect on the economy :dunce:

excellent analysis. at least it did make reference to turtles.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Yep, he would do pretty much exactly as you said, well, he would if he could rule by decree rather than having to ask what would be a less than kind and generous congress for legislation that many would be against and hope they will write it and then pass it so then he could sign it so it would then happen.

For Ron Paul, that should be simple .... as simple as peeling a turtle.

Now if he could do as you said a small number of people would earn a massive amount of money, but at the same time the largest amount of corporate and business operating capital ever has been sat on, unused, would largely go to growth and expansion and jobs and paychecks that seem small when compared to those lucky few who receives obscenely large checks, if not for those obscenely large ones the smaller ones would never have existed, making them as much smaller as could be possible. Then all those new smaller checks would be taxed and they would be spent buying things they both need and just want .... and just like that cash is flowing and people are buying and others have to work to make what they're buying and so on and so on and so on .... and as that great democrat JFK said; "a rising tide lifts all boats."

Instead Obama has created a hostile relationship with everything from small businesses to the largest corporations. He created an atmosphere of confusion and increased costs that has caused caution and pessimism in everything from small businesses to the largest corporations. That is why they are sitting on such massive amounts of unused operating capital.

As much as it sounds crazy to some, and even distasteful to others, it is what is needed now. It's not the best long term solution, but it is the only viable short term solution. The U.S. really only has one horse to ride out of the desert on and they need to ride it until it's ready to drop and in the meantime think up and have 'Plan B' ready to take over.

Let one guy do all he can to make the most of what little we have to work with and let it do what it does best, things will get better while riding that horse to it's last breath and later let someone else who would be more qualified for it design a whole new plan and have it in place and switch to it at the proper time.

People want an instant or overnight change that will alter everything that is rotten. There is just no way to do it quickly. We brought a fat girl to the dance and now our only hope to have some fun in the semi-near future is dance her hard until she needs to sit, take a rest, eat a wild boar, and while she's doing that you pick up a thin chick you've had your eye on all night and blow that Popsicle stand.
So are you voting Paul BT?
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
People have to invest money into a hedge fund. It is a voluntary decision.
ok. Well it's not a voluntary decision if you're a worker at a company that's bought up by a hedge fund and they fire you and send your job to China so they can extract more cash out of your corporation. So while that's nice for the people deciding to buy into hedge funds, it's less nice for the people who lose their jobs due to the actions of said hedge fund.
 

budlover13

King Tut
i don't want to speak for him, but based on what i have read, i am guessing he will vote for the viable candidate that can unseat obama rather than waste his vote on paul.
Ummm, Paul sure seems "viable" according to the recent primary results.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
and just like that cash is flowing and people are buying and others have to work to make what they're buying and so on and so on and so on .... and as that great democrat JFK said; "a rising tide lifts all boats."
lol. I'm reasonably certain JFK wasn't referring to trickle down economics when he said "a rising tide lifts all boats.". That's cute and all, but the results of a rising tide for those who can't afford a boat is to drown.
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
ok. Well it's not a voluntary decision if you're a citizen in a country that's bought up by wasteful spending and selling debt to China to fund it and they fire you and send your job to China so they can extract more cash out of you and or your small U.S. based corporation. So while that's nice for the people benefiting from this system, it's less nice for the people who lose their jobs due to the actions of said system.
Edit ^^^
Has everyone read Ron Pauls Books?
 
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