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fdd2blk said:
that's 26 years after we all die. moot point. :mrgreen:
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i don't know about all of us - but i doubt i'll make it to 2038 (not unless i live an unusually long life anyway).

at least i won't have to work my ass off fixing it in 2037 like 1999 was :)
 
I just want to make everyone aware that a technologocal crisis is much much different than the world crisis currently begining. If the world net crashed it would cause many disruptions to normal life, but I don't believe it would be a threat to human life where as many of these others issues would. We must realize that our current lifestyle is not sustainable for future generations.
 
Dfunk said:
I just want to make everyone aware that a technologocal crisis is much much different than the world crisis currently begining. If the world net crashed it would cause many disruptions to normal life, but I don't believe it would be a threat to human life where as many of these others issues would. We must realize that our current lifestyle is not sustainable for future generations.
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The correlation is the level of hysteria and misinformation surrounding both prospects.
 
You are absolutely correct email! It's not anything to panic about - just prepare for coming changes or in other words ADAPT - something human beings seem to have a problem with from time to time. It also seems that everytime more truthful information becomes available even more propaganda & deceitful infomation are around.
 
Have you heard of the new tomato scare in the U.S. - these things just keep piling up - it's unprecedented.
 
Dfunk said:
Have you heard of the new tomato scare in the U.S. - these things just keep piling up - it's unprecedented.
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sure have - but this is nothing new. what is unprecedented is the capacity to inform everyone right away (media/internet) and with the amount of people living under more severe conditions (largest populations on Earth... ever).

predicting a sea change is kind of like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow. If humanity survives things will change. One thing is certain - things (and people) change.

But tying those changes into some astronomical cycle (like the Mayan calendar) is not backed by any known science or evidence.
 
Dfunk said:
Get ready to pay ridiculous prices at the grocery store!
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again, prices have been rising since grocery stores have been in existence. nothing unusual here - especially during wartime.

what is unusual is people seem surprised by rising prices!

those who do not remember the past are doomed into repeating it.
 
I did want to add that I'm no Pollyanna - I see a lot of unique and unusual problems that require solutions or could spell doom for us. I just try not to obfuscate the issues with wishful thinking and mystical mumbo-jumbo.
 
I agree. I was not trying to scare anyone I just find it amusing & yes cooking kills the bacteria that is in the tomatoes.
 
Prices always rise, but this information boom is exactly what can cause an extremely quick rise. Just think about how fuel prices have always risen, but recently with all the media attention it has been going up faster than ever. They make it out to be like some kind of event or something. There are many other factors involved, but I believe the news & media is somewhat responsible for some of the fuel inflation going on. What do you think???
 
Dfunk said:
Prices always rise, but this information boom is exactly what can cause an extremely quick rise. Just think about how fuel prices have always risen, but recently with all the media attention it has been going up faster than ever. They make it out to be like some kind of event or something. There are many other factors involved, but I believe the news & media is somewhat responsible for some of the fuel inflation going on. What do you think???
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I like to blame the news and other media on most of our current problems but i have no idea if i'm right or not!

here is something i believe without any evidence to back me up - i believe the economic crunch we are experiencing right now - is the very same economic crunch we should have experienced about 10 years ago - for which the tech, specifically computer/internet, industry temporarily saved us.
 
email468 said:
sure have - but this is nothing new. what is unprecedented is the capacity to inform everyone right away (media/internet) and with the amount of people living under more severe conditions (largest populations on Earth... ever).

predicting a sea change is kind of like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow. If humanity survives things will change. One thing is certain - things (and people) change.

But tying those changes into some astronomical cycle (like the Mayan calendar) is not backed by any known science or evidence.
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I'd like it here noted that this is the same science that has no idea how or why these ancient cultures have demonstrated astronomical knowledge far beyond their supposed technological level and that of our very recent fathers. Furthermore, how the Incas built city walls at the top of the Andes mountains carved to such perfection one cannot stick a pin through a seam though no mortar was used. Such city wall were built of 30-50 ton boulders for which we see no possible means of this ancient culture achieving.

Astrology is a metaphor. Just a story if you will designed to help us remember what's going on. Astronomical time versus Atomical time? Which is more real?
 
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